So what's up with "gender inclusive language"?

Originally posted by victreebelvictr
Yeah, my bad. When I brought up "natural" I was mostly pointing to the fact that none of men's sex organs are meant to perform sex on the same gender. Apologies.

I am most definitely not trolling. My religion states it, so I believe it to the fullest. I think many things make people happy such as watching tv or spending time with family, but evil things bring joy as well such as murder and stealing (depends on the person). Since I consider homosexuality a capital crime, I don't see how it resides outside of that.

Keep in mind, I said "needlessly" preventing their happiness. I am atheist, so I think the rules of society can be established purely through reason. We have pretty strong cause to ban murder and theft.

Murder and stealing are acts a predator perpetrates on a victim. The victim is robbed of agency and has their rights infringed upon. Our society would have a difficult time even functioning if those things were legal, so we legislate against those actions. A consensual, same-sex relationship or encounter is different. No one is violated is any way.

Your religion forbids it, but you can satisfy your religious beliefs simply by not engaging in it yourself. You don't have to keep others from doing it, no?

Originally posted by victreebelvictr
I like your sig by the way. 👆

Thanks.

Originally posted by Bashar Teg
is that the reason your mind is troubled by gay men 24/7/365? because god told you to be an obvious self-loathing closet homosexual? how sad for you, ethneostarflyofbrooklyn

lol

StyleTime Keep in mind, I said "needlessly" preventing their happiness. I am atheist, so I think the rules of society can be established purely through reason. We have pretty strong cause to ban murder and theft.

Murder and stealing are acts a predator perpetrates on a victim. The victim is robbed of agency and has their rights infringed upon. Our society would have a difficult time even functioning if those things were legal, so we legislate against those actions. A consensual, same-sex relationship or encounter is different. No one is violated is any way.

Your religion forbids it, but you can satisfy your religious beliefs simply by not engaging in it yourself. You don't have to keep others from doing it, no?

I don't think that mankind is ever "fit" to create their own laws. Our ideas of what is right and wrong is very different than the idea of others. Adolf Hitler legitimately believed that he was doing the world a service by eliminating 6.5 million Jews. We must rely on a source above our own understanding and making because mankind is simply corrupted and narrow-minded.

Well, history has shown over and over again that homosexuality brings corruption and evil to whatever nation indulges in it. Ever since gay marriage has been made legal, the quality of our nation has gotten worse and worse. And, at some point, will cause this establishment to break.

The Bible places homosexuality on the same level of evil as murder. This is such a strong claim in comparison to the philosophy of this world. I just think that history has proven this idea again and again, and though it seems harmless to the human eye, there is a much darker force behind it. And it isn't crazy to think that. Men and women are like puzzle pieces, as they are sexually compatible with each other. Men are just not compatible for other men, and biology proves that. If there is a God, you can see why He is so highly against this due to the way He set up this world, you know?

I am not forcing anyone to believe what I believe, and I appreciate your response. 👆

Originally posted by victreebelvictr
I don't think that mankind is ever "fit" to create their own laws. Our ideas of what is right and wrong is very different than the idea of others. Adolf Hitler legitimately believed that he was doing the world a service by eliminating 6.5 million Jews. We must rely on a source above our own understanding and making because mankind is simply corrupted and narrow-minded.

Well, history has shown over and over again that homosexuality brings corruption and evil to whatever nation indulges in it. Ever since gay marriage has been made legal, the quality of our nation has gotten worse and worse. And, at some point, will cause this establishment to break.

The Bible places homosexuality on the same level of evil as murder. This is such a strong claim in comparison to the philosophy of this world. I just think that history has proven this idea again and again, and though it seems harmless to the human eye, there is a much darker force behind it. And it isn't crazy to think that. Men and women are like puzzle pieces, as they are sexually compatible with each other. Men are just not compatible for other men, and biology proves that. If there is a God, you can see why He is so highly against this due to the way He set up this world, you know?

I am not forcing anyone to believe what I believe, and I appreciate your response. 👆

Hitler's genocide goes back to what I said though: people's rights, among other things, were being violated there. I think we can condemn his actions, which were deplorable, with purely rational thought. I'm increasingly, not totally, unsure if "right" and "wrong" are even necessary. At least not in the cosmic sense, wherein some transcendent good eternally battles some transcendent evil. We can, and should, work to maximize well-being for humanity, and genocide actively hinders that.

As for the homosexuality thing, okay. I disagree obviously, but your religious beliefs are what they are. As long as you're not imposing them on others through legislation or violence and such, you can think whatever you want.