Better feat

Originally posted by abhilegend
Newton, we failed thee!

Apparently the buildings (which are supported by several pillars to distribute the weight) is the same as Hulk lifting a star.

Physics, what's that?

Originally posted by Enzeru
Point 2 does stick out like a sore thumb, because it's overall a weak argument and not how I would have tried to explain it. Albertos comparison can be compared to quicksand. A bird is not going to drown in quicksand. A human will. A hippo will drown even faster. There comes a point, where weight overpowers the surface, even if that surface offers enough pushback for heavy objects such as buildings. Surfaces are tricky overall. You could break your back, if you jumped into water from a high enough distance and landed on your back.

There is no explaining why Hulk didn't sink into the ground. There is only excusing it. I tried it by stating that the energy of the spear was solely focused on Hulk. Holding him down with the weight of a star, instead of putting the weight of a star onto his shoulders – or making him as heavy as a star. Because at that point, he is chilling in the core of the Earth in less than a second.

However... howeeever... Another argument you could make is that, if the energies were truly as heavy as a star, they would have created their own gravity... and kept the Hulk next to the spear, instead of sinking away from it. But that opens up the question why he was kneeling on the ground. And there you can excuse it with Hulk being pushed and pinned to the ground with the spear.
That's how I would have written the entire scene. That's one speech bubble you'd need to explain it properly. Mystical cosmic mumbo-jumbo, but it would have eradicated questions like these.

Here's the problem you missed out. The weight of the star ISNT added to the Hulk. The Hulk is lifting the weight, albeit he is throwing a force to counter balance the weight on him. Now that the Hulk has given enough force to counterbalance the star, the ground has to only deal with the Hulks weight.
If the Hulk FAILED to lift the star, then the ground has to support the Hulk AND the star. Thus then you see Hulk sinking through. Fortunately our jolly green giant is able to balance the star weight on his own, so now the only downward force that the ground has to take care of is his weight. period.

Originally posted by Enzeru
If I was favoring one side over the other, I would be laughing at that entire DC showing:

A bunch of Kryptonians couldn't collapse a single star, where in Marvel you have heralds doing it with their hands. And then one black hole took care of an amped Kryptonian star, where in Marvel Savage Hulk overpowers black holes with his hands. And that amped Kryptonian star couldn't escape that black hole, even though he had 3 entire seconds, where in Marvel you have heralds crossing galaxies within the blink of an eye.

Well he is a star, hydrogen and helium stated in the comic. What happens to hydrogen and helium when it meets up with a black hole?

You can say a blackhole is his kryptonite.

Also he was orange/reddish not yellow. He wasn’t boosting the kryptonians and likely weakening them with his mere presence.

Originally posted by abhilegend
I'm just enjoying the mental gymnastics.

You mean you love the facts being brought up, you failed. miserably. Stay salty 😂 Try again next time

Originally posted by AlbertoJohnAvil
Here's the problem you missed out. The weight of the star ISNT added to the Hulk. The Hulk is lifting the weight, albeit he is throwing a force to counter balance the weight on him. Now that the Hulk has given enough force to counterbalance the star, the ground has to only deal with the Hulks weight.
If the Hulk FAILED to lift the star, then the ground has to support the Hulk AND the star. Thus then you see Hulk sinking through. Fortunately our jolly green giant is able to balance the star weight on his own, so now the only downward force that the ground has to take care of is his weight. period.

Lol what are Hulks feet being supported by

the fact that you guys actually quote them for 10-20 pages in multiple threads...

True.... argh gotta resist the fat girl.

Originally posted by AlbertoJohnAvil
Here's the problem you missed out. The weight of the star ISNT added to the Hulk. The Hulk is lifting the weight, albeit he is throwing a force to counter balance the weight on him. Now that the Hulk has given enough force to counterbalance the star, the ground has to only deal with the Hulks weight.
If the Hulk FAILED to lift the star, then the ground has to support the Hulk AND the star. Thus then you see Hulk sinking through. Fortunately our jolly green giant is able to balance the star weight on his own, so now the only downward force that the ground has to take care of is his weight. period.

😂 😂 this is actually dumber than your stars are weightless in space argument. You’re a living proof that evolution can go in reverse.

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Lol what are Hulks feet being supported by

The ground supports Hulks feet and his weight. The star is supported by the effort that Hulk is giving via lifting it.

Originally posted by AlbertoJohnAvil
The ground supports Hulks feet and his weight. The star is supported by the effort that Hulk is giving via lifting it.

Go grab a gym bar and place it on your shoulders as if you are going to squat. Now get on a scale. The bar weight will be added to your weight eventhough your body is supporting the bar weight. You dumb ****, use the little common sense you have for once.

He's just trolling.

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
He's just trolling.

Originally posted by AlbertoJohnAvil

Here's the problem you missed out. The weight of the star ISNT added to the Hulk. The Hulk is lifting the weight, albeit he is throwing a force to counter balance the weight on him. Now that the Hulk has given enough force to counterbalance the star, the ground has to only deal with the Hulks weight.

If the Hulk FAILED to lift the star, then the ground has to support the Hulk AND the star. Thus then you see Hulk sinking through. Fortunately our jolly green giant is able to balance the star weight on his own, so now the only downward force that the ground has to take care of is his weight. period.

Alberto, we're talking about the ground here and not Hulks pants. The ground will eventually falter under comical levels of weight. We're still talking about the weight of a star here.
But the way you think about "counterbalance" is wrong in general. Squats are a risky exercise, because the lifters spine gets compressed by the weight of the bar and the pushback of the ground. It's not like the ground just provides the standing ground for the lifter and the bar.

That's why the ground gives in, while Hulk tries to lift Mjolnir:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4J-JObkgK7k

Originally posted by Diesldude

Well he is a star, hydrogen and helium stated in the comic. What happens to hydrogen and helium when it meets up with a black hole?

You can say a blackhole is his kryptonite.

Also he was orange/reddish not yellow. He wasn’t boosting the kryptonians and likely weakening them with his mere presence.

I don't mind your take on it at all. You're trying to explain a lack of information or at least stuff that has been very, very loosely hinted at.

My main issue is really only the fact, that in Hulks instance we were dealing with cosmic non-sense: "It's the Power Cosmic. I ain't gonna explain sh1t."
In Supermans instance certain people are saying that we were looking at an actual talking star. And they give him one positive property, while taking away 7 negative properties. So it's in-comic-universe-nonsense VS outside-comic-universe-nonsense. And I can handle in-comic-universe-nonsense like the Power Cosmic or the Speed Force better than bad writing.

Here is how I view Last Son.

a) An actual star contained in Supermans body. Doesn't emit the heat of a star, since he doesn't burn anyone. Doesn't have the strong gravitational pull of a star, since no one is being sucked into him. Weighs like Superman normally would, since no one ever mentioned anything about his weight (except two Superdudebrofans on this board).

Here is how Superdudebrofans view Last Son:

b) An actual talking star with the weight of a star. But doesn't emit the heat of a star. Also doesn't have the gravitational pull of a star. Nor is he as bright as a star. Why not? Oh well, you know, it's comic books.

And there is no Power Cosmic or Speed Force or anything to explain any of that. When Flash grabs someone and runs them at super speed, I don't question the brain of that person being turned into mashed potatoes or their skin being torn off. I don't even question Superman catching a falling human. That would instantly kill that person. But in Flashs case it's in-universe-nonsense and in Supermans case it's outside-universe-nonsense. But this whole ordeal with Last Son is pushing it like crazy, because people are being so selective about it.

Trolls usually doesn’t put much effort by typing walls of texts to rile people.

You would be surprised...

As for Alberto, he is rather a unique case --- I don't think he himself knows what he wants.

Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
You would be surprised...

As for Alberto, he is rather a unique case --- I don't think he himself knows what he wants.

alberto knows he's a troll, I don't think he even believes what he's typing

carver on the other hand geniunely believes the stupid crap he says

It took Carver two decades to learn he can access comic books on the Internet.

Two decades.

And everyone was trying to help him with that... facepalm

Originally posted by AlbertoJohnAvil
You mean you love the facts being brought up, you failed. miserably. Stay salty 😂 Try again next time

Originally posted by Enzeru
Alberto, we're talking about the ground here and not Hulks pants. The ground will eventually falter under comical levels of weight. We're still talking about the weight of a star here.
But the way you think about "counterbalance" is wrong in general. Squats are a risky exercise, because the lifters spine gets compressed by the weight of the bar and the pushback of the ground. It's not like the ground just provides the standing ground for the lifter and the bar.

That's why the ground gives in, while Hulk tries to lift Mjolnir:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4J-JObkgK7k

I don't mind your take on it at all. You're trying to explain a lack of information or at least stuff that has been very, very loosely hinted at.

My main issue is really only the fact, that in Hulks instance we were dealing with cosmic non-sense: "It's the Power Cosmic. I ain't gonna explain sh1t."
In Supermans instance certain people are saying that we were looking at an actual talking star. And they give him one positive property, while taking away 7 negative properties. So it's in-comic-universe-nonsense VS outside-comic-universe-nonsense. And I can handle in-comic-universe-nonsense like the Power Cosmic or the Speed Force better than bad writing.

Here is how I view Last Son.

a) An actual star contained in Supermans body. Doesn't emit the heat of a star, since he doesn't burn anyone. Doesn't have the strong gravitational pull of a star, since no one is being sucked into him. Weighs like Superman normally would, since no one ever mentioned anything about his weight (except two Superdudebrofans on this board).

Here is how Superdudebrofans view Last Son:

b) An actual talking star with the weight of a star. But doesn't emit the heat of a star. Also doesn't have the gravitational pull of a star. Nor is he as bright as a star. Why not? Oh well, you know, it's comic books.

And there is no Power Cosmic or Speed Force or anything to explain any of that. When Flash grabs someone and runs them at super speed, I don't question the brain of that person being turned into mashed potatoes or their skin being torn off. I don't even question Superman catching a falling human. That would instantly kill that person. But in Flashs case it's in-universe-nonsense and in Supermans case it's outside-universe-nonsense. But this whole ordeal with Last Son is pushing it like crazy, because people are being so selective about it.

"You gotta believe me, I'm unbiased".

Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
It took Carver two decades to learn he can access comic books on the Internet.

Two decades.

And everyone was trying to help him with that... facepalm

People have been PMing him for years, being super-nice to him... and incredibly patient... and trying desperately to educate him how to use a computer connected to the Internet.

I'm not making this shit up.

I was the one who taught him how to post images, lol.