Originally posted by Enzeru
During the Incursion event various Earths were being pushed into each other by their respective universe. When the Earths collided, the universes exploded.Reed Richards pretty much states that Captain America was pushing back an universe by pushing the Earth back. The Earth was sticking out of its universe like an island sticks out of the ocean. They couldn't see anything else but the rogue Earths.
Furthermore when we are told that universes were moved or collapsed we were told specifically and literally that it was a universe. But in hyperion case we were told he held worlds apart until they broke not universes. No matter what you want to believe it didn’t happen and nobody cares what someone tweets to appease the trolls hounding him day and night. Especially if it goes against on panel statements and evidence.
I understand your line of thinking, but it sounds like you're not fully considering what was going on during the Incursion.
Hyperion isn't the Infinity Gauntlet. He is not strong enough to push the universe back. Or maybe he is, but physical power alone can't get the job done and cosmic power is required. I dunno. If it has to do with his strength, I'd argue it's similar to the positive and the negative part of a lift. You're MUCH stronger during the negative part of a rep. Didn't you say that you lift? Then you know that.
Hyperions instance was different, but also wasn't different at the same time.
Hyperion did hold back against two universal forces. He just did. That's how the Incursion worked and that's what the writer of the story confirmed. But where Hyperion could hold the force back, the Earths couldn't handle all the pressure and eventually got destroyed. Did it happen in a nanosecond? Did it happen in a second? A minute? I don't know. Nor does it matter how fast it went down. Fact is that Hyperion prevented those two Earths from touching and by doing that he was holding back universal forces and transferring all that pressure back to the Earths, which destroyed them and the universes. [/B][/QUOTE]
Reed Richards pretty much states that Captain America was pushing back an universe by pushing the Earth back. The Earth was sticking out of its universe like an island sticks out of the ocean. They couldn't see anything else but the rogue Earths.
He said Cap was "literally" pushing the universe that was hidden from everyone.
They saw cap pushing the other earth but as reed said, cap was actually pushing the universe, literally.
I understand your line of thinking, but it sounds like you're not fully considering what was going on during the Incursion.
This was in response to your use of two universes when it clearly stated two worlds.
"Two universes. Not two Earths. Or two solar systems. Or two galaxies like in the case of Superman. Two UNIVERSES"
Hyperions instance was different, but also wasn't different at the same time.
what?
Hyperion isn't the Infinity Gauntlet. He is not strong enough to push the universe back.
hhhm
Hyperion did hold back against two universal forces. He just did.
Well this is much different than holding 2 universes apart.
Earth cannot stop universal force/weight even for a nano second. wont even slow it down. There is no eveidence that showed that the universal force was halted the earths arent strong halt it.
The 2 earths were getting pushed, Hyperion is invulnerable, at least harder than what the earth is made of. So the pressure of them being forced into someone harder caused them to break. He held them worlds apart from the point they made contact with him until the time they broke, that does not mean that the universal force behind them was halted.
Earth isn't durable enough to withstand that type of universal force.
the 2 universes were coming from opposite sides, hyperion was in the middle. when he made contact wiht the 2 earths and held them aprt, the universes kept moving and pushing the earths into hyperison who was more durable than the earth which then broke.
Like 2 trains colliding head on. The locomotive of each train gets crushed while the rear cars are still moving towards them and then end up crashing into them eventhough the locomotives had already stopped. Similarly the 2 force of the 2 universes never halted.
