Blade vs Batman

Started by Trackz8 pages
Originally posted by Sin I AM
More of a feat for BT than Blade

boy-thing is a part of his standard gear since the Avengers. With that he's fought Silver Surfer and Gladiator. Give Batman prep and he could figure something out, but random fight, Blade is winning.

Originally posted by Trackz
boy-thing is a part of his standard gear since the Avengers. With that he's fought Silver Surfer and Gladiator. Give Batman prep and he could figure something out, but random fight, Blade is winning.

Batman turns all magic off.

Batman could win, but he'd be in flight mode (As in fight or flight). Blade is faster, stronger and a competant combatant, which in a real fight would give him the edge needed to mitigate Batman's superior combat knowledge. It would likely be a close fight, but as I mentioned, Blade's physical stats are superhuman, while Batman's are peak human. I think that there is a possibility that this fight could resemble the Batman vs Zealot fight of several years past.

Stoic, you really need to let go of the notion Bats is just peak human. His feats are so numerous, even in the last few years to push him past the human tier.

Originally posted by Stoic
Batman could win, but he'd be in flight mode (As in fight or flight). Blade is faster, stronger and a competant combatant, which in a real fight would give him the edge needed to mitigate Batman's superior combat knowledge. It would likely be a close fight, but as I mentioned, Blade's physical stats are superhuman, while Batman's are peak human. I think that there is a possibility that this fight could resemble the Batman vs Zealot fight of several years past.

Batman is listed as a meta now

Originally posted by Senor Cage
Batman is listed as a meta now

Not really, no:

"Not to speak for Suicide Squad," Snyder tweeted, but Batman is not meta. He gets powers for stories (like 'Darkseid War'😉, but he's never been meta in nature... he is meta in his awesomeness, but that's a different matter."

https://twitter.com/Ssnyder1835/status/890932525010472960

UPDATE: Suicide Squad writer Rob Williams has weighed in on the topic as well, stating via Twitter, "People reading too much into this. Waller/The People's goal in the current storyline is to lock away all superhumans, Batman included... Whether Batman has powers or not doesn't matter to her/them. Given his actions and how he runs with the Justice League, he's a target."

https://twitter.com/Robwilliams71/status/890942784118640640

Full article:

https://www.cbr.com/scott-snyder-batman-not-metahuman/

Golgo, you're fired.

i don't think anyone is arguing his intended nature--it just flies directly in the face of his umpteen thousand superhuman feats.... /shrug

But he is human, a peak human that PIS will not erase. He has no physical augmentations, no super speed, superhuman strength, or super durability. Drop him 400 feet with no grappling hook, cape or anything to slow his fall, and he'd be a bloodstain on the asphalt pavement. He isn't a low meta, he's a peak human with toys. His toys and combat ability are really the only reasons that he could walk among guys well above his weight class.

There was a thread that lasted for hundreds of posts that pitted Batman against Spiderman. People wanted to ignore the speed advantage, durability advantage, strength advantage, agility advantage and every other advantage that Spiderman held over Batman because well, he's Batman.

Peak comic book human is what he is. It isn't a bad thing, it's simply what he is. When he picks up a bus and tosses it across the street, he will then become a meta human.

Bruce is a regular peak human in a suit. His suit is armored and he's a top tier h2h fighter with soft spot and pressure point knowledge and awareness. At some point since beyond seems to be a very possible future he'll probably permanently add Physical enhancement to his suit.

Originally posted by leonidas
i don't think anyone is arguing his intended nature--it just flies directly in the face of his umpteen thousand superhuman feats.... /shrug

Sadly, that Suicide Squad panel is still being used on KMC as "evidence".

That's what Golgo meant, too.

You left us, so you missed it how every dc boy here wanked to that stupid one-panel statement made by 200kg Amanda Gecko Waller.

lol yeah, i def missed that. but feats determine nature, at least around here, not a handbook or wishful thinking.

Yeah, I mean that kinda logic is like using handbooks and bios to argue rather than actual feats.

But to Stoic:. Here he is recently, no armour, no toys, and a multi storey fall:

https://m.imgur.com/a/X9plB

Originally posted by leonidas
lol yeah, i def missed that. but feats determine nature, at least around here, not a handbook or wishful thinking.

They sure do.

But we also understand how Spider-Man is weaker than Ares, even though Parker has better strength feats.

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Yeah, I mean that kinda logic is like using handbooks and bios to argue rather than actual feats.

But to Stoic:. Here he is recently, no armour, no toys, and a multi storey fall:

https://m.imgur.com/a/X9plB

they show him not actually falling right there in the scan. The blades put him in the hospital

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Yeah, I mean that kinda logic is like using handbooks and bios to argue rather than actual feats.

But to Stoic:. Here he is recently, no armour, no toys, and a multi storey fall:

https://m.imgur.com/a/X9plB

Tell that to everyone who insists Val Armorr couldn't fight his way against any street level, despite regularly sparring on even grounds with Superman class opponents.

Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
They sure do.

But we also understand how Spider-Man is weaker than Ares, even though Parker has better strength feats.

That’s quite a bit different though. Sm has so many more appearances but in general ares battles Hercules and spidey breaks his hand on Hercules face.... that’s different then bats regularly performing superhuman feats. Bats in more like Logan and his ability to regularly take down high meta or above bricks. When it happens enough it isn’t pis. Or you throw out EVERYTHING which makes no sense to me. I honestly don’t get the hang up in handbook definitions though. Who cares if bats is constantly depicted as a low level meta....?

Originally posted by AlbertoJohnAvil
they show him not actually falling right there in the scan. The blades put him in the hospital

He's falling.

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
He's falling.

yeah but he didn't hit the ground. He caught on to the gargoyle.

Originally posted by AlbertoJohnAvil
yeah but he didn't hit the ground. He caught on to the gargoyle.

Well...never said he did.

The gargoyle he caught was halfway up the building. So halve the height of that skyscraper, and that's the speed he was at when he caught it (after being stabbed and kicked out some pretty tough glass).

All without his armour, which was my main point.