Blade vs Batman

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Well...never said he did.

The gargoyle he caught was halfway up the building. So halve the height of that skyscraper, and that's the speed he was at when he caught it (after being stabbed and kicked out some pretty tough glass).

All without his armour, which was my main point.

they have explained those aspects about Batman too like his pain tolerance and knowing how to roll a fall like he's clearly doing in the panels. Yeah it's bullshit but it's fiction there has to be some level of bullshit involved.

Yeah, most of Batman IS actually BS, and I'm not being sarcastic or whatever, am actually agreeing with you

which is why if everything were even, it'd definitely be a solid fight, but with Blade's standard gear right now it's not.

But its not.

Batman is consistently above humans.

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
But its not.

Batman is consistently above humans.

As it stands, Batman doesn't have a single thing in his belt that can hurt Blade significantly, meanwhile Blade, either with his standard adamantium sword or his boy-thing Blades, can very easily kill Batman. All things being equal, if we didn't consider the past few years it'd be even and Batman's feats could arguably put him above, but without prep this is no contest.

after tanking a mjolnir hit to the chest by ghost rider thor and actively healing as the hammer was trying to burn into his chest

The damage he can do to Cosmic Ghost Rider with his breathing gun (Cosmic Ghost Rider had just beat down the rest of the Avengers)

putting down Ghost Rider (who had just been fighting Thor and Captain Marvel)

vs. Silver Surfer

This doesn't include strikeforce, where he casually killed Daimon Hellstrom, a demon clone of Wiccan, and had Angela backdown from him.

He's really on another level right now.

Originally posted by Trackz
again, being above humans isn't that standard. Blade in the past few years has tanked hits from Mjolnir, he's fought Gladiator, Silver Surfer, Ghost Rider Thor, and Cosmic Ghost Rider and held his own more or less. The upgrades he's gotten in equipment from the Avengers have him regularly fighting herald level beings.

As it stands, Batman doesn't have a single thing in his belt that can hurt Blade significantly, meanwhile Blade, either with his standard adamantium sword or his boy-thing Blades, can very easily kill Batman. All things being equal, if we didn't consider the past few years it'd be even and Batman's feats could arguably put him above, but without prep this is no contest.

And Batman has fought WW not once, but twice (both times she was bloodlusted) with no prep. She is stronger and faster than Blade (AND had her sword).

He has fought Zoom, who is far faster than Blade, and was tagging him.

Beaten Grundy SEVERAL times. Was straight up tanking explosions that were sending Superman/WW et al flying. Was fighting Damage (the guy who was stalemating Superman).

And you say he has nothing...

https://imgur.com/a/0pfN0

His grappling line has a 15 ton breaking strain. Blade is NOT that strong. But what if he added his foam:

AND that grappling line, just for good measure?

(he has a LOT of foam, by the way). Blade wouldn't have the leverage to cut the cable, especially if his fingers etc are trapped by the foam. ESPECIALLY if his arms are pinned to the sides.

Originally posted by Trackz

after tanking a mjolnir hit to the chest by ghost rider thor and actively healing as the hammer was trying to burn into his chest

The damage he can do to Cosmic Ghost Rider with his breathing gun (Cosmic Ghost Rider had just beat down the rest of the Avengers)

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putting down Ghost Rider (who had just been fighting Thor and Captain Marvel)

vs. Silver Surfer

This doesn't include strikeforce, where he casually killed Daimon Hellstrom, a demon clone of Wiccan, and had Angela backdown from him.

He's really on another level right now.

So match starts, what is he holding in his hand? His adamantium sword, Boy Thing, his breathing gun, what? He has three arms now?

a white billionaire playboy beating a close to 100 yrs old senile black man?

I dont like this

Originally posted by Trackz

after tanking a mjolnir hit to the chest by ghost rider thor and actively healing as the hammer was trying to burn into his chest

The damage he can do to Cosmic Ghost Rider with his breathing gun (Cosmic Ghost Rider had just beat down the rest of the Avengers)

putting down Ghost Rider (who had just been fighting Thor and Captain Marvel)

vs. Silver Surfer

This doesn't include strikeforce, where he casually killed Daimon Hellstrom, a demon clone of Wiccan, and had Angela backdown from him.

He's really on another level right now.

that's really good stuff. definitely enough to make me rethink this. i assumed bats handily using the more 'classic' version of blade. his new gear and showings definitely has me rethinking this. at the least, it's a highly debatable match. would make for an interesting bz perhaps. 👆

Boy Thing isn't standard equipment, however. And his best feats in Trackz's post are accomplished with Boy Thing.

He just gets left behind to babysit:

Don't buy what he is peddling, Leo.

i guess he has higher highs than i thought, is all i'm saying. without the added equipment (which i really don't know if it's standard) i'm still team bats. WITH the added equipment, and with what appears to be a slight bump recently in his stock, it's closer than i initially thought is all. i'd still take bats--too many feats to really compare fairly--but blade could certainly make it interesting--especially if he gets all his 'equipment'.

Originally posted by leonidas
i guess he has higher highs than i thought, is all i'm saying. without the added equipment (which i really don't know if it's standard) i'm still team bats. WITH the added equipment, and with what appears to be a slight bump recently in his stock, it's closer than i initially thought is all. i'd still take bats--too many feats to really compare fairly--but blade could certainly make it interesting--especially if he gets all his 'equipment'.

Don't make me use all of Batman's gear 😠

https://imgur.com/a/zNhEUrr

Edit and let's not start on what happens when he uses red sun radiation on Blade....

Batman loses then? Great. This thread is now my favorite thread.

😂

radiation would be an interesting tactic here....

Originally posted by Bentley
Batman loses then? Great. This thread is now my favorite thread.

Lol no, he kicks vampire butt and human butt.

Human EMP!

https://m.imgur.com/a/Em67ETU

The human part of Blade....

Originally posted by leonidas
That’s quite a bit different though. Sm has so many more appearances but in general ares battles Hercules and spidey breaks his hand on Hercules face.... that’s different then bats regularly performing superhuman feats. Bats in more like Logan and his ability to regularly take down high meta or above bricks. When it happens enough it isn’t pis. Or you throw out EVERYTHING which makes no sense to me. I honestly don’t get the hang up in handbook definitions though. Who cares if bats is constantly depicted as a low level meta....?

You know how I feel about Parker.

Hell, I made whole posts about Spidey hurting himself when striking tough foes.

And yet, I cannot ignore all those times when he hurt Class 100s. So no, it's not really different from the Batman thing.

Without his toys, Bats' been sodomized by the likes of B*tchstroke, Azrael, Emperor Penguin, Anarky or this new white cloak nobody guy with a sword...

Both Bats and Pete have plenty of lows and highs to pick from.

Anyway, while Bruce does operate in the meta tier and does have some outlandish feats, he is certainly not the only street that can brag about it.

So if we make an exception for him, there's no reason for us not make us another exception for, let's say, Conan.

Ghostmaker? Bruce said he beat him every year they fought, and when he bragged about cleaning crime up in Gotham Bruce showed him how wrong he was....

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Boy Thing isn't standard equipment, however. And his best feats in Trackz's post are accomplished with Boy Thing.

He just gets left behind to babysit:

Don't buy what he is peddling, Leo.

"what I'm peddling" what is this? so Batman has never taken off his belt before? throughout the avengers run Blade is regularly shown with boy-thing and they've developed a symbiotic relationship. When boy-thing gets left behind, it's for his own protection at times but he is regularly with Blade on missions.

re: batman also fighting heralds, the difference is that is not at all expected. we know boy-thing has the strength of a planet and that his blades cut can cut through anything. the blades were melting through ironman armor on contact. like I said, ordinarily this would be a fight, blade right now is just on another level.

planetary strength, armor that's resistant to blows from herald level beings, weaponry that can put down ghost rider/thor level beings. this is all standard equipment with no prep.

Originally posted by leonidas
i guess he has higher highs than i thought, is all i'm saying. without the added equipment (which i really don't know if it's standard) i'm still team bats. WITH the added equipment, and with what appears to be a slight bump recently in his stock, it's closer than i initially thought is all. i'd still take bats--too many feats to really compare fairly--but blade could certainly make it interesting--especially if he gets all his 'equipment'.

the breathing gun was gifted by hellstrom. it is an insta-kill for demonic beings, but on its own the bullets literally chase enemies.

boy-thing gives him planetary strength (only way he's able to cross blades with silver surfer) and swords that can cut through anything and melt it on contact.

at his base, we've seen Blade briefly put down Thor powered by the spirit of vengeance, a berzerk Ghost Rider, and get the better of Deadpool and stalemate Wolverine (and make short work of a vampire Wolverine).

Like I said, ordinarily this would be a match, Avenger Blade is on a different level, which is the only reason we're even arguing about "is this standard or not" even after it's been shown repeatedly.

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Don't make me use all of Batman's gear 😠

https://imgur.com/a/zNhEUrr

Edit and let's not start on what happens when he uses red sun radiation on Blade....

And Batman knows this how without prep?

Blade is literally the only vampire with this weakness as far as we know. Beyond that, the boy-thing armor only happened because he needed protection from red sunlight, so I'm not sure why that would be relevant at all in this fight.