Originally posted by Old Man Whirly!
Old man Leo sounds right. Embrace it Leo!
Who came up with it first? Saint? We've been calling him that for so long, I forgot.
Leoni - Albert??
Lecherous Leonidas - LoB, I believe.
Leodicktits - Bran right here in this thread.
Leodickus - zom.
Damn. He's got such a huge fan club.
Bran and I hashed things out over pm’s. In a nutshell I feel the same way about brans post as I do about Phil’s—namely that both are perfectly reasonable. I just happen to view what took place during the battle differently than they do. You can take abhi’s view and claim it reflects a shift in Orion’s power which is crazy to me. You can call it an outlier. Or you picture a battle that makes sense and fits in with the history of the character. All of them are equally valid IMO.
My entire issue all along has been the idea that other interpretations of the battle have no validity and that there’s only one way to see it. That of course is complete bs IMO. I’m perfectly able to picture a battle that in no way sets Orion above other heralds and jives perfectly with his character AND with events in the story. Idc if people see the battle differently. Just don’t force feed your opinion as the only possible truth when it manifestly is not.
Originally posted by Stoic
How can anyone make any claims on what they did not actually see? Orion could’ve been getting spanked off panel from all we know? If this were reversed the Marvel detractors would be doing far worse. So why not follow suit? Just straight up invalidate the feat since it can not be quantified.
Bro read your first sentence.
We don’t see Orion getting spanked. We don’t see chain reactions.
What we do see, a solar system getting destroyed in 3 seconds.
Kyle said it was because of Orion and the golem.
We have one side discussing what is explicitly shown and said while the other side is making assumptions about spanking and chain reactions.
You’re doing exactly what you think we would be doing if the situation was reversed for marvel characters. I also don’t think the dc guys get so riled up about marvel feats from marvel side. They pale in comparison and who cares. Only time I try to discuss them is if I see the guy trying to pedal them with blatant lies.
I don’t think anyone on the dc side argued the hulks feat as much as the marvel guys arguing against this feat and in your case trying to get it invalidated. Smh I’ll go with what is shown and said in the comic instead of assumptions.