Bet Ray Bill vs Orion.

Originally posted by qwertyuiop1998
So you are saying Orion trying to flee by flying right into the golem....?
https://postimg.cc/fthzcg4P
I dont think youre that stupid.
Not to mention when later Orion see this golem again, His solution is "making a dent at this golem" "Fighting it" as stated on panel
https://readcomiconline.to/Comic/Ha...-27?id=119927#8
https://readcomiconline.to/Comic/Ha...-27?id=119927#9
And Kyle stopped him because of fearing Orion goes against the golem and it would cause the destruction of a star system like Orion LAST TIME did
Like phil said before

Pay close attention. I read both books. Neither shows Orion doing anything other than surviving an omni blast created by Yuga Khan's Nth Metal Golem. He then flees using a boom tube. Anything more is fan fiction.

Originally posted by Stoic
Where do you see a fight? Do you see an exchange of assaults? What does Orion do on the very next panel? What does Orion have to do to get the Golem to stop pursuing him?

There was no battle.

Originally posted by Stoic
Pay close attention. I read both books. Neither shows Orion doing anything other than surviving an omni blast created by Yuga Khan's Nth Metal Golem. He then flees using a boom tube. Anything more is fan fiction.

I'm sure you can even say, even though the panel [key word] literally shows the Golem and Orion standing in front of each other attacking seconds before Hal appears -- you'll find some reasons that there's a non-published page somewhere that you can't see where Orion [or the Golem] is actually hitting a random stray planet/asteroid that we don't see, and they actually don't even hit each other to destroy the solar system just as a side-effect!

But -- the point is that, no matter how many excuses [or you can call them interpretations] [actually they didn't hit eachother! actually, even though it's shown they do, we need to see more of the fight! actually, it might have not even been the fight, it was just a random planet!] -- most people here go "hey, that's nice, they hit each other and the solar system is completely destroyed just as a side effect"

Originally posted by qwertyuiop1998
So you trying to argue Orion fleeing the golem by fleeing right into the golem's attack-range?
And later we saw what Orion's solution when fighting the golem, He literally trying to fight it.
Kyle also couldnt let Orion go against the golem like Orion did last time
I think the logic is pretty simple and clear?

The Golem was pursuing Orion. Read the scans that you posted. Orion states as much on the following pages.

Orion literally committed suicide is what he did.

Kyle, Hal, and Orion couldn't stop the Golem.

The only thing that was clear was that Orion was no match for the Golem, and that it would've followed him up your ass if he Boom Tubed there which is where he would've met his demise.

I'm actually having difficulty believing that you read the two issues that you're citing, because anyone that read it should never come to the conclusion that Orion was in pitched battle the likes that would resemble a battle waged between Superman and DOS Doomsday.

Orion was in flight mode the entire time, not fight mode. Now you'll post part of the story and ask me once again if that was a fight. Okay sure, it was Orion fighting to stay alive by running.

Originally posted by Stoic
The Golem was pursuing Orion. Read the scans that you posted. Orion states as much on the following pages.

Orion literally committed suicide is what he did.
Kyle, Hal, and Orion couldn't stop the Golem.

The only thing that was clear was that Orion was no match for the Golem, and that it would've followed him up your ass if he Boom Tubed there which is where he would've met his demise.

Originally posted by Stoic
I'm actually having difficulty believing that you read the two issues that you're citing, because anyone that read it should never come to the conclusion that Orion was in pitched battle the likes that would resemble a battle waged between Superman and DOS Doomsday.
Orion was in flight mode the entire time, not fight mode. Now you'll post part of the fight and ask me once again if that was a fight. Okay sure, it was Orion fighting to stay alive by running.

Originally posted by qwertyuiop1998
So your rebuttal is....You read the comics? That doesnt look like a good one.
But like phil said, Despite the comics clearly indicate Orion and the golem were fighting each other, You still can come some excuses that they didnt fight, But we all know the fact.

😂 Not one single person on this thread agree with you besides your daddy phil

B-BUt PhIL sAId dIS dUrr

As if his opinion matters to any comic related subject. Your head canon doesn't portray what the story shows kid

Shut up troll

Originally posted by AlbertoJohnAvil
😂 Not one single person on this thread agree with you besides your daddy phil

B-BUt PhIL sAId dIS dUrr

As if his opinion matters to any comic related subject. Your head canon doesn't portray what the story shows kid

Originally posted by Stoic
No. Orion is never seen fighting the Golem. Where did you see an exchange of blows, or any type of power struggle? You're as dishonest as the day is long, or you lack the ability to comprehend what you read. Which one is it?

Your explaination is innaccurate. Orion is in flight mode, not fight mode.

Your restaurant analogy has nothing to do with what transpires in that story. You're attempt at discrediting me has been noted, and you're still wrong. Anyone that reads that story honestly can will see that you're wrong. I wish that Pr would read it and give us his thoughts on it. Hmmmm.

Orion is fighting.

And If he was teleporting you would see a BOOM like here.
. But there was no Boom. That means it was a battle between Orion and the golem.

Finally you have confirmation from Kyle saying the last time Orion tried to fight the golem it blew apart the system.
there is no doubt that Orion was fighting and engaged and not running(absence of boom).

Since Orion is engaged, there can be only 2 ways to argue this
1. The attack was 100% from the golem. If this was the case then Orion tanked a solar system busting attack point blank and was alert enough to leave after getting hit at ground zero. Then came back to talk to Hal and Kyle within seconds.
2. The system was destroyed as a result of them fighting.
I think this was the case. They were both attacking each other’s as confirmed by Kyle.

👆
Either way, Orion indeed was engaging and fighting the golem.

Originally posted by qwertyuiop1998
Lol again you just showed your dishonesty.
Orion finds out he can rid the golem by taking out his heart and relying on green lanterns to keep him alive is After his fight with the golem
https://readcomiconline.to/Comic/Hal-Jordan-And-The-Green-Lantern-Corps/Issue-27?id=119927#11
Before that Orion's solution literally is fighting that golem
https://readcomiconline.to/Comic/Hal-Jordan-And-The-Green-Lantern-Corps/Issue-27?id=119927#8
https://readcomiconline.to/Comic/Hal-Jordan-And-The-Green-Lantern-Corps/Issue-27?id=119927#9
It seems it is you should read the comics again, Because you clearly dont know the chronology
Lol, So Orion was running from the golem by running into the golem?
Again, You claimed something that I never said. Did I deny Orion was in a pitched battle, Did I say Orion can match the golem in their battle?
No, What I said literally is Orion and the golem fighting each other, Which you seem to concede now

Someone with the ability to comprehend what they are reading should read the books in question.

You actually have the balls to call me dishonest, and are using Phil as proof? That person is about as disingenuous as they come. You're no better.

After fleeing from the Golem, Orion meets up with Kyle and Hal, cluthching his injured side due to the Golems attack, decides to stand his ground. He knew that he was going to die.

I'm going to actually PM Pr, give him the means to review the evidence and let him give his opinion on what transpires in the books. There isn't single shred of evidence that supports Orion actually exchanging assault for assault with the Golem. The book nevr say anything that alludes to a statement that Orion had been struggling with the Golem for a prolonged period of time.

I will expose you for your dishonesty.

Originally posted by Stoic
Someone with the ability to comprehend what they are reading should read the books in question.

You actually have the balls to call me dishonest, and are using Phil as proof? That person is about as disingenuous as they come. You're no better.

After fleeing from the Golem, Orion meets up with Kyle and Hal, cluthching his injured side due to the Golems attack, decides to stand his ground. He knew that he was going to die.

I'm going to actually PM Pr, give him the means to review the evidence and let him give his opinion on what transpires in the books. There isn't single shred of evidence that supports Orion actually exchanging assault for assault with the Golem. The book nevr say anything that alludes to a statement that Orion had been struggling with the Golem for a prolonged period of time.

I will expose you for your dishonesty.

Originally posted by Diesldude
Orion is fighting.

And If he was teleporting you would see a BOOM like here.
. But there was no Boom. That means it was a battle between Orion and the golem.

Finally you have confirmation from Kyle saying the last time Orion tried to fight the golem it blew apart the system.
there is no doubt that Orion was fighting and engaged and not running(absence of boom).

Since Orion is engaged, there can be only 2 ways to argue this
1. The attack was 100% from the golem. If this was the case then Orion tanked a solar system busting attack point blank and was alert enough to leave after getting hit at ground zero. Then came back to talk to Hal and Kyle within seconds.
2. The system was destroyed as a result of them fighting.
I think this was the case. They were both attacking each other’s as confirmed by Kyle.

Orion was in front of the Golem. Orion was pushed back by the Golem's blast. Remnants of that same blast are seen pouring through the Boom Tube.

Kyle says last time he tried. That doesn't mean that there was a battle. I could say that I tried to fight a tidal wave, and you could take pictures of my attempt, but in the end I'd be crushed and swept away. Orion is hit by the Golems omni blast, he then opts to Boom Tube away as he is struck. We see the residual energy pouring through the Boom Tube as he is thrown through it. He actually doesn't tank 100% of the blast. Look at the scans. Did you even read the entire book?

You have a history of saying DC wins for the vast majority of your posts. What would make you a good judge of these events? Did you see Orion exchanging assault for assault with the Golem?

Originally posted by Stoic

You have a history of saying DC wins for the vast majority of your posts. What would make you a good judge of these events?

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Lmao, knew the "who do you think" statement would come out.

No, I don't think it's Carver, although you have similar levels of intelligence and dishonesty.

Did I state that? Please quote me. Again, interesting that you have near perfect recall - relatively - for things that suit your worldview.

Yet conveniently forget items that show you up for the dishonest poster you are. Or maybe it's not dishonesty, and you genuinely forgot something from a character that had ~6 appearances total lol.

😂 Asking diesl for his opinion on anything comic related is like asking shaq how to dribble. It's always stupid by default

Originally posted by AlbertoJohnAvil
😂 Asking diesl for his opinion on anything comic related is like asking shaq how to dribble. It's always stupid by default

Originally posted by -Pr-
I don't think it's any secret that Alberto is a troll. If people choose to engage with him, that's their business.

Same with the likes of JBL, Mr. Mind, Broly etc.

Troll is gonna troll.

Don't feed the trolls.

Originally posted by qwertyuiop1998
Lol, When did I use phil as a proof. I just said I have the same opinion with him. You yet again claimed something I didnt say.
Orion and the golem takes place before the green lanterns arrived later Kyle even said he couldnt let orion go Against the golem like Last time he tried . Again, You claimed Im lying about the comics but its you who trying to lie about this scene
Here Orion battling the golem
https://readcomiconline.to/Comic/Hal-Jordan-And-The-Green-Lantern-Corps/Issue-26?id=118782#12
And after Hal and kyle arrived the shockwaves were still happening which indicates theyre still fighting, Only after a few pages Orion boomed out to Hal and Kyle
https://readcomiconline.to/Comic/Hal-Jordan-And-The-Green-Lantern-Corps/Issue-26?id=118782#13
https://readcomiconline.to/Comic/Hal-Jordan-And-The-Green-Lantern-Corps/Issue-26?id=118782#14
https://readcomiconline.to/Comic/Hal-Jordan-And-The-Green-Lantern-Corps/Issue-26?id=118782#15
And in the following issue Kyle said he couldnt let orion go Against the golem like Last time he tried
https://readcomiconline.to/Comic/Hal-Jordan-And-The-Green-Lantern-Corps/Issue-27?id=119927#10
Did I make the chronology clear to you?
Sure, you can call the mods and lets do a BZ. You claimed Orion did nothing but running, And my stance is Orion did fight the golem.
You keep claiming youre right because you read the comics, But it now seems you dont know what youve read or just straight up lying.
And dont bother asking someone to read the comics because I already posted the links of those comics. They can check the comics themselves and judge whose claims are true

Kyle wasn't there, he was trying to piece together what had happened to that sector of space. Orion refused to answer him. Clarity comes when Orion is comatose and a telepath probes his mind. There was no battle there was a confrontation, Orion was blasted, Orion opens a Boom Tube as he is thrown through it, and we see the residual energy pouring through the Boom Tube.

Orion never Astro Blasts the Golem on panel, flies toward the Golem to punch it, or anything resembling pitched combat. Orion later states to Kyle "Kid you couldn't stop me if you brought your dad to help. I DIDN'T PICK THIS FIGHT BUT THAT DOESN'T MEAN THAT I'LL LIE DOWN."

I used all caps for the portion quoted to show that Orion was in Flight mode. He makes it clear in that statement that he was being pursued by the Golem, and he did flee the battlefield, because we see him Boom Tube to another location.

There are no scans of pitched combat. Do you not know what pitched combat means?

Alberto, I don't currently have a way to give examples of pitched combat. Can you or anyond post an example of what a battle looks like?

For one, we don't see Orion doing anything here, The Golem unleashed the attack: