Bet Ray Bill vs Orion.

Started by qwertyuiop199821 pages

Originally posted by Stoic
Kyle wasn't there, he was trying to piece together what had happened to that sector of space. Orion refused to answer him. Clarity comes when Orion is comatose and a telepath probes his mind. There was no battle there was a confrontation, Orion was blasted, Orion opens a Boom Tube as he is thrown through it, and we see the residual energy pouring through the Boom Tube.

Orion never Astro Blasts the Golem on panel, flies toward the Golem to punch it, or anything resembling pitched combat. Orion later states to Kyle "Kid you couldn't stop me if you brought your dad to help. I DIDN'T PICK THIS FIGHT BUT THAT DOESN'T MEAN THAT I'LL LIE DOWN."

I used all caps for the portion quoted to show that Orion was in Flight mode. He make it clear in that statement that he was being pursued by the Golem, and he did flee the battlefield, because we see him Boom Tube to another location.

There are no scans of pitched combat. Do you not know what pitched combat means?

Alberto, I don't currently have a way to give examples of pitched combat. Can you or any post an example of what a battle looks like?


Lol, Before the scan of kyle Orion literally trying to engage and fight the golem
https://readcomiconline.to/Comic/Hal-Jordan-And-The-Green-Lantern-Corps/Issue-27?id=119927#8
https://readcomiconline.to/Comic/Hal-Jordan-And-The-Green-Lantern-Corps/Issue-27?id=119927#9
And when Kyle trying to stop him Orion answer basically is "go **** yourself, I will battle this golem no matter what like I last time did"
https://readcomiconline.to/Comic/Hal-Jordan-And-The-Green-Lantern-Corps/Issue-27?id=119927#10
And here is the scene you claimed is confirmation of Orion didnt battle/against the golem, Which literally isnt what you claimed
https://readcomiconline.to/Comic/Hal-Jordan-And-The-Green-Lantern-Corps/Issue-27?id=119927#17
https://readcomiconline.to/Comic/Hal-Jordan-And-The-Green-Lantern-Corps/Issue-27?id=119927#18
Yes, I know what a pitched battle means. Thats why I never said Orion can match/win against the golem. The claim I made literally is Orion engaging and fighting the golem
And again for your "actually they didn't hit each other! actually, even though it's shown they do, we need to see more of the fight!" You can come all excuses you want, Even though it clearly doesnt make sense

Originally posted by qwertyuiop1998
Lol, Before the scan of kyle Orion literally trying to engage and fight the golem
https://readcomiconline.to/Comic/Hal-Jordan-And-The-Green-Lantern-Corps/Issue-27?id=119927#8
https://readcomiconline.to/Comic/Hal-Jordan-And-The-Green-Lantern-Corps/Issue-27?id=119927#9
And when Kyle trying to stop him Orion answer basically is "go **** yourself, I will battle this golem no matter what like I last time did"
https://readcomiconline.to/Comic/Hal-Jordan-And-The-Green-Lantern-Corps/Issue-27?id=119927#10
And here is the scene you claimed is confirmation of Orion didnt battle/against the golem, Which literally isnt what you claimed
https://readcomiconline.to/Comic/Hal-Jordan-And-The-Green-Lantern-Corps/Issue-27?id=119927#17
https://readcomiconline.to/Comic/Hal-Jordan-And-The-Green-Lantern-Corps/Issue-27?id=119927#18
Yes, I know what a pitched battle means. Thats why I never said Orion can match/win against the golem. The claim I made literally is Orion engaging and fighting the golem
And again for your "actually they didn't hit each other! actually, even though it's shown they do, we need to see more of the fight!" You can come all excuses you want, Even though it clearly doesnt make sense

You can't be this stupid.

You can see it was the Golem who did it. He was getting ready to attack as seen here, that's why Hal and team were hurrying up:

All they did was tank a portion of the explosion. Orion used boom tubes to escape, he didn't tank the full explosion.

Orion was lucky he escaped the explosion.

Originally posted by AlbertoJohnAvil
You can't be this stupid.

You can see it was the Golem who did it. He was getting ready to attack as seen here, that's why Hal and team were hurrying up:

All they did was tank a portion of the explosion. Orion used boom tubes to escape, he didn't tank the full explosion.

Orion was lucky he escaped the explosion.

Lol, You dont read my post, do you?
Originally posted by qwertyuiop1998

Here Orion battling the golem
https://readcomiconline.to/Comic/Hal-Jordan-And-The-Green-Lantern-Corps/Issue-26?id=118782#12
And after Hal and kyle arrived the shockwaves were still happening which indicates theyre still fighting, Only after a few pages Orion boomed out to Hal and Kyle
https://readcomiconline.to/Comic/Hal-Jordan-And-The-Green-Lantern-Corps/Issue-26?id=118782#13
https://readcomiconline.to/Comic/Hal-Jordan-And-The-Green-Lantern-Corps/Issue-26?id=118782#14
https://readcomiconline.to/Comic/Hal-Jordan-And-The-Green-Lantern-Corps/Issue-26?id=118782#15

I've already read the comic, post some scans instead. And Here is an example of pitched combat, where stuff gets destroyed, not the other combatant running away:

Originally posted by AlbertoJohnAvil
I've already read the comic, post some scans instead. And Here is an example of pitched combat, where stuff gets destroyed, not the other combatant running away:
Huh, I and abhi posted it and gave rebuttal way before you jumped in and made the same argument
Originally posted by abhilegend
Idiot, the shockwave happened, the solar system was destroyed, the golem was still shown fighting Orion who then escaped the golem.

Orion didn't escape the fight which destroyed the solar system, it was his fight which did it.


Originally posted by abhilegend
Shut up troll
Idiocy rubs me wrong way. Its pretty common actually.

Orion and golem fighting destroyed the solar system, what we see later is Orion running away from another blast.

Here, the first blast destroys the solar system.

https://i.postimg.cc/6Q57M7R2/image.jpg

We see golem blasting Orion again which is when he boom tubes away.

https://i.postimg.cc/4J5VpGtH/image.jpg


Originally posted by qwertyuiop1998
My interpretations orion and the golem still fighting when the solar system was destroyed
As we can see when Hal and Kyle arrived the shockwaves were still happening
https://postimg.cc/hzbSpbct
Only after they arrived orion begins using his boom tube to escape the fighting
https://postimg.cc/bSyqMDwH
https://postimg.cc/9zCXzSYR

Originally posted by qwertyuiop1998
But only after Hal and Kyle arrrived we see Orion boom out the fight.
By your logic, Orion boomed to some random place and somehow decided to boom back to the system again, Which never gets indicated in the comics 😕 ?
And not to mention in this scan orion looks like he gets his ass kicked by the golem while he was booming out.
https://postimg.cc/9zCXzSYR
I think the more convincing sequence should be: Orion fighting the golem,Orion and the golem's fighting destroyed the system, Orion finds out the golem is too powerful for him to deal and decides to boom out, Orion booming out while getting blasted by the golem

I've PM'd Pr. I'm hoping that he'll take the time to expose the truth. Me, Alberto, Leo, and Celey seem to be seeing something completely different than the others that pop in with single words like DC wins, because.

Originally posted by qwertyuiop1998
Huh, I and abhi posted it and gave rebuttal way before you jumped in and made the same argument

Yeah No, Orion was in fact running away. He considered himself lucky enough to even make it through.

Originally posted by AlbertoJohnAvil
Yeah No, Orion was in fact running away. He considered himself lucky enough to even make it through.

That wasnt what you claimed
Originally posted by AlbertoJohnAvil

All they did was tank a portion of the explosion. Orion used boom tubes to escape, he didn't tank the full explosion.


Please give me proof he didnt tank the full explosion which destroyed the star system

Originally posted by Stoic
Orion was in front of the Golem. Orion was pushed back by the Golem's blast. Remnants of that same blast are seen pouring through the Boom Tube.
bro, Orion is returning to the System that was destroyed. So how will that boom tube have remnants of the blast from their battle? After golem and Orion battled and destroyed the system they were no longer there. Orion might be fleeing or looking for help and battled the golem everytime it showed up.

Originally posted by Stoic
[B]

Kyle says last time he tried. That doesn't mean that there was a battle. I could say that I tried to fight a tidal wave, and you could take pictures of my attempt, but in the end I'd be crushed and swept away. Orion is hit by the Golems omni blast, he then opts to Boom Tube away as he is struck. We see the residual energy pouring through the Boom Tube as he is thrown through it. He actually doesn't tank 100% of the blast. Look at the scans. Did you even read the entire book? [B]


You’re not a New god of Genesis. Two, your entire argument is based on your misunderstanding of his arrival to meet the GL. Since he was at the battle and boomed out, the residual enters of the blast would be at first destination not his arrival back to the site of their battle. No one is concluding the amount energy from Orion and the golem was 50/50. But it’s a comic and both were alive after that battle so we have to assume it was 50/50 or close.
Originally posted by Stoic
[B]

You have a history of saying DC wins for the vast majority of your posts. What would make you a good judge of these events? Did you a see Orion exchanging assault for assault with the Golem?

bro why you do you have to go there lol. Im guilty of this in Superman threads, sure, But I’ve pick Marvel characters like Thanos all the time. We can have a discussion without getting into this stuff. You’re better than this bro.

Originally posted by qwertyuiop1998
That wasnt what you claimed

Please give me proof he didnt tank the full explosion which destroyed the star system

Orion took the explosion almost point blank. You can see he was still there after the star system destroyed in that guy's eyes, they reflect the moment.

Originally posted by AlbertoJohnAvil
Orion took the explosion almost point blank. You can see he was still there after the star system destroyed in that guy's eyes, they reflect the moment.

Wow....So youre saying Orion took the explosion in a close range which is basically just what I said in my rebuttal. Thanks for you agreeing my point 👆

Originally posted by Diesldude
bro, Orion is returning to the System that was destroyed. So how will that boom tube have remnants of the blast from their battle? After golem and Orion battled and destroyed the system they were no longer there. Orion might be fleeing or looking for help and battled the golem everytime it showed up.

You’re not a New god of Genesis. Two, your entire argument is based on your misunderstanding of his arrival to meet the GL. Since he was at the battle and boomed out, the residual enters of the blast would be at first destination not his arrival back to the site of their battle. No one is concluding the amount energy from Orion and the golem was 50/50. But it’s a comic and both were alive after that battle so we have to assume it was 50/50 or close.
bro why you do you have to go there lol. Im guilty of this in Superman threads, sure, But I’ve pick Marvel characters like Thanos all the time. We can have a discussion without getting into this stuff. You’re better than this bro.

😂 THAT'S just Boom tube's energy you moron:

This pretty much concretes it:

it's the Golem's feat, nothing more nothing less.

Ok, @Stoic. If you want Pr to be the judge. Lets give him a brief version of our arugment shall we?
First of all. You claimed this

Originally posted by Stoic
Orion did nothing on panel but flee.

And here is my stance
Originally posted by qwertyuiop1998

Sure, you can call the mods and lets do a BZ. You claimed Orion did nothing but running, And my stance is Orion did fight the golem.

Originally posted by qwertyuiop1998

Yes, I know what a pitched battle means. Thats why I never said Orion can match/win against the golem. The claim I made literally is Orion engaging and fighting the golem

BTW, I read the thread again, I find Stoic you should drop celey out of your list since he actually said the same thing
Originally posted by celeyhyga17
Why would he let golem blast him? O'Ryan was battling the golem wasnt he so it makes sense he's at the vicinity of the golem.

Originally posted by qwertyuiop1998
Wow....So youre saying Orion took the explosion in a close range which is basically just what I said in my rebuttal. Thanks for you agreeing my point 👆

Um no, some residual energy entered and traveled through the boom tube because those three were pushed away when it opened:

Originally posted by AlbertoJohnAvil
Um no, some residual energy entered and traveled through the boom tube because those three were pushed away when it opened:

Originally posted by AlbertoJohnAvil
Orion took the explosion almost point blank . You can see he was still there after the star system destroyed in that guy's eyes, they reflect the moment.

So? He might have only tanked the part of the explosion that touched or hit him. It really depends. It's not what YOU think it means kid 😂

Originally posted by AlbertoJohnAvil
So? He might have only tanked the part of the explosion that touched or hit him. It really depends. It's not what YOU think it means kid 😂
Wow so youre arguing he didnt tank the full explosion that destroyed the star system, Despite he was in point blank?

He boom tubed away, he didn't really tank the attack. There isn’t any evidence of a fight but the thing was trying to kill him. He had to have Atleast defended himself, nothing more.

Originally posted by AlbertoJohnAvil
He boom tubed away, he didn't really tank the attack.

Originally posted by AlbertoJohnAvil
Orion took the explosion almost point blank. You can see he was still there after the star system destroyed in that guy's eyes, they reflect the moment.

Lmao