Bet Ray Bill vs Orion.

Started by qwertyuiop199821 pages

Originally posted by AlbertoJohnAvil
it's a combined feat and we can't tell how much of it was Orion alone to use as a Orion feat.....
I think nobody said it wasnt a shared feat.
The point is Orion and the golem fighting each other and their fight destroyed the star system
Originally posted by abhilegend
Off panel? Are you high? We actually see them fighting with Shockwaves travelling across which destroyed the solar system. And then Kyle confirmed it in the next issue.

How the **** is that off panel?

Zod was amped on two suns and treated an amped Kyle like nothing (who could destroy Mogo accidentally) before Hal beat the crap out of him.

Seriously? One blast? I mean c'mon, have you given this account to Alberto?

Here's the entire scene:

http://i.imgur.com/XeJ3xVB.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/8aG45FL.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/T1lb4Hc.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/cNIY6le.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/nRnEaO4.jpg

Mogo tries to alter gravity which has owned hundreds of black Lanterns and suspended multiple green Lanterns casually, he then blasts Orion and continues blasting but Orion pretty much ignored it and took the GL ring.

Why would he need a powerup when he was rebooted?


And Orion clearly trying to fight the golem not flee from it when facing it.
https://readcomiconline.to/Comic/Hal-Jordan-And-The-Green-Lantern-Corps/Issue-27?id=119927#8
https://readcomiconline.to/Comic/Hal-Jordan-And-The-Green-Lantern-Corps/Issue-27?id=119927#9
Just like phil said, You can put how much stock you want into that but it doesnt take away the fact that their fight destroyed a star system

Even if you wanna lie and say he did contribute, it doesn't matter, and the feat is irrelevent cuz how much will never be known unless it's stated these scans alone doesn't give much detail,

Originally posted by AlbertoJohnAvil
Even if you wanna lie and say he did contribute, it doesn't matter, and the feat is irrelevent cuz how much will never be known unless it's stated these scans alone doesn't give much detail,
Where did I lie? Please point it out. And like I said over and over again, It was a shared feat nobody denies it, But it doesnt change the fact they blew apart a star system

The Oblivion bomb feat was much better, IMO. Orion is a beast.

Orion did nothing on panel but flee.

Originally posted by Stoic
Orion did nothing on panel but flee.
Lol what?
Here we see him fighting against the golem
https://postimg.cc/fthzcg4P
And later he was trying to fight the golem again
https://readcomiconline.to/Comic/Hal-Jordan-And-The-Green-Lantern-Corps/Issue-27?id=119927#8
https://readcomiconline.to/Comic/Hal-Jordan-And-The-Green-Lantern-Corps/Issue-27?id=119927#9
Kyle even stated
"I wont let you go against that thing, Orion. Last time you tried , The shockwaves blew apart a star system"
https://postimg.cc/grszhDgM

Originally posted by qwertyuiop1998
That doesnt look like he was fleeing
https://postimg.cc/fthzcg4P
And for the supervillain example, I dont think if we were taking some attacks that can say tear apart a building or something at point blank and still just have some wounds is equal to running away from the supervillain

Are you smoking crack? Where in all of those scans do you see Orion attacking? The very next panel shows him Booming away. This type of shit is the main reason that the hard core DC fans must have every statement analyzed, because you guys are often caught lying, or over-inflating them. I mean, who do you think that you're dealing with here? Anyone with a phucking brain can see that Orion did nothing in those two books. Kyle neither confirms, or admits anything, as he asked a phucking question. No more, no less.

Great durability feat for Orion is all he gets. Now let's talk about that titanium box and the lead block.

Originally posted by qwertyuiop1998
Lol what?
Here we see him fighting against the golem
https://postimg.cc/fthzcg4P
And later he was trying to fight the golem again
https://readcomiconline.to/Comic/Hal-Jordan-And-The-Green-Lantern-Corps/Issue-27?id=119927#8
https://readcomiconline.to/Comic/Hal-Jordan-And-The-Green-Lantern-Corps/Issue-27?id=119927#9
Kyle even stated
"I wont let you go against that thing, Orion. Last time you tried , The shockwaves blew apart a star system"
https://postimg.cc/grszhDgM

Orion is being blown back. Kyle doesn't know anything. His statement isn't a confirmation, it's a question. He wasn't there. I'm baffled that I have to actually explain this to you.

Interesting how you ignore low showings when it suits you Stoic.

Originally posted by Stoic
Are you smoking crack? Where in all of those scans do you see Orion attacking? The very next panel shows him Booming away. This type of shit is the main reason that the hard core DC fans must have every statement analyzed, because you guys are often caught lying, or over-inflating them. I mean, who do you think that you're dealing with here? Anyone with a phucking brain can see that Orion did nothing in those two books. Kyle neither confirms, or admits anything, as he asked a phucking question. No more, no less.

Great durability feat for Orion is all he gets. Now let's talk about that titanium box and the lead block.

Wait what?
You claiming the next panel Orion booming out but the comic clearly shows us that when Hal and Kyle arrived the shockwaves were still hapening. And after a few scans Orion was being blasted away by the golem indicates Orion and the golem were still fighting when Hal and Kyle arrived
https://readcomiconline.to/Comic/Hal-Jordan-And-The-Green-Lantern-Corps/Issue-26?id=118782#13
https://readcomiconline.to/Comic/Hal-Jordan-And-The-Green-Lantern-Corps/Issue-26?id=118782#14
https://readcomiconline.to/Comic/Hal-Jordan-And-The-Green-Lantern-Corps/Issue-26?id=118782#15
Again, You claiming Im lying but it seems like it is you who constantly lying about their fight.

Originally posted by qwertyuiop1998
Wait what?
You claiming the next panel Orion booming out but the comic clearly shows us that when Hal and Kyle arrived the shockwaves were still hapening. And after a few scans Orion was being blasted away by the golem indicates Orion and the golem were still fighting when Hal and Kyle arrived
https://readcomiconline.to/Comic/Hal-Jordan-And-The-Green-Lantern-Corps/Issue-26?id=118782#13
https://readcomiconline.to/Comic/Hal-Jordan-And-The-Green-Lantern-Corps/Issue-26?id=118782#14
https://readcomiconline.to/Comic/Hal-Jordan-And-The-Green-Lantern-Corps/Issue-26?id=118782#15
Again, You claiming Im lying but it seems like it is you who constantly lying about their fight.

Shockwaves that were created by the Nth Metal Golem, not Orion. Do you recall the Nth Metal Golem's omni attack that we clearly see pushing Orion back? The next thing Orion does is use a Boom Tube to get the hell out of there. He reappears on Salaak's native planet, and commits suicide as his only means of escaping the construct. Do we need a Mod ruling on this?

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Interesting how you ignore low showings when it suits you Stoic.

Go away.

Originally posted by Stoic
Orion is being blown back. Kyle doesn't know anything. His statement isn't a confirmation, it's a question. He wasn't there. I'm baffled that I have to actually explain this to you.
Lol, First you said Orion didnt fight against the golem and I showed the scan when Orion and the golem fighting each other.
And now you come to excuse which I already explained before.
Kyle thinks Orion and the golem fighting each other last time and weve already seen Orion and the golem's fight
Let me give you an example: We see a man walking into a restaurant then when that man walks out from the restaurant and someone asks him did he walk into the restaurant, We all know that man indeed walks into the restaurant. I dont know why I need to explain this to you, I think the logic is pretty simple?

Originally posted by Stoic
Shockwaves that were created by the Nth Metal Golem, not Orion. Do you recall the Nth Metal Golem's omni attack that we clearly see pushing Orion back? The next thing Orion does is use a Boom Tube to get the hell out of there. He reappears on Salaak's native planet, and commits suicide as his only means of escaping the construct. Do we need a Mod ruling on this?
Except you claimed Orion fleeing not fighting the golem
Originally posted by Stoic
Orion did nothing on panel but flee.

But we saw he was fighting the golem on panel
https://postimg.cc/fthzcg4P
Im not even talking about who caused those shockwaves here lol. I just point out Orion did fight the golem, Which clearly happened on panel. You just need simply admitting youre wrong, But sure we can do a BZ argue was orion fighting the golem in this scene or just fleeing

Originally posted by Stoic
Go away.

It's true. When your precious Cosmic Herald Thor gets hit by a random rock thrown by a random alien and brought to his knees, you conveniently forget all about it

But when you learn about Orion and titanium/lead...

A NEW CORE MEMORY!

Originally posted by qwertyuiop1998
Lol, First you said Orion didnt fight against the golem and I showed the scan when Orion and the golem fighting each other.
And now you come to excuse which I already explained before.
Kyle thinks Orion and the golem fighting each other last time and weve already seen Orion and the golem's fight
Let me give you an example: We see a man walking into a restaurant then when that man walks out from the restaurant and someone asks him did he walk into the restaurant, We all know that man indeed walks into the restaurant. I dont know why I need to explain this to you, I think the logic is pretty simple?

No. Orion is never seen fighting the Golem. Where did you see an exchange of blows, or any type of power struggle? You're as dishonest as the day is long, or you lack the ability to comprehend what you read. Which one is it?

Your explaination is innaccurate. Orion is in flight mode, not fight mode.

Your restaurant analogy has nothing to do with what transpires in that story. You're attempt at discrediting me has been noted, and you're still wrong. Anyone that reads that story honestly can will see that you're wrong. I wish that Pr would read it and give us his thoughts on it. Hmmmm.

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
It's true. When your precious Cosmic Herald Thor gets hit by a random rock thrown by a random alien and brought to his knees, you conveniently forget all about it

But when you learn about Orion and titanium/lead...

A NEW CORE MEMORY!

Who do you think that you're dealing with here? Do you think that you're dealing with Carver? As a matter of fact I recall you stating that an entire solar system was destroyed as a side effect of a battle that Orion was in. Is this the so called battle? Put a pin in it.

Originally posted by Stoic
No. Orion is never seen fighting the Golem. Where did you see an exchange of blows, or any type of power struggle? You're as dishonest as the day is long, or you lack the ability to comprehend what you read. Which one is it?

Your explaination is innaccurate. Orion is in flight mode, not fight mode.

Your restaurant analogy has nothing to do with what transpires in that story. You're attempt at discrediting me has been noted, and you're still wrong. Anyone that reads that story honestly can will see that you're wrong. I wish that Pr would read it and give us his thoughts on it. Hmmmm.


So you are saying Orion trying to flee by flying right into the golem....?
https://postimg.cc/fthzcg4P
I dont think youre that stupid.
Not to mention when later Orion see this golem again, His solution is "making a dent at this golem" "Fighting it" as stated on panel
https://readcomiconline.to/Comic/Ha...-27?id=119927#8
https://readcomiconline.to/Comic/Ha...-27?id=119927#9
And Kyle stopped him because of fearing Orion goes against the golem and it would cause the destruction of a star system like Orion LAST TIME did
Like phil said before
I know it doesn't -- and won't carry any weight for you, of course. I've seen people like carver, alberto etc. argue for hollow planets, small planets, etc. This is nothing personal, we all have our biases, the way "we want things to be" or "we want things to be the way they were, otherwise this forum sucks! so irrational!". I'm sure you can even say, even though the panel [key word] literally shows the Golem and Orion standing in front of each other attacking seconds before Hal appears -- you'll find some reasons that there's a non-published page somewhere that you can't see where Orion [or the Golem] is actually hitting a random stray planet/asteroid that we don't see, and they actually don't even hit each other to destroy the solar system just as a side-effect!

But -- the point is that, no matter how many excuses [or you can call them interpretations] [actually they didn't hit eachother! actually, even though it's shown they do, we need to see more of the fight! actually, it might have not even been the fight, it was just a random planet!] -- most people here go "hey, that's nice, they hit each other and the solar system is completely destroyed just as a side effect"

In the end -- you can put how much stock you want into that. You can put how much stock you want into Orion bulldozing Hal in his own series where he is written at an insane level. Where his power is a supernova, where Kyle almost accidentally destroys Mogo with his power, etc. You can ignore any type of power feats, and just focus on fights. You can really do anything. It's your prerogative.

Originally posted by qwertyuiop1998
Except you claimed Orion fleeing not fighting the golem

But we saw he was fighting the golem on panel
https://postimg.cc/fthzcg4P
Im not even talking about who caused those shockwaves here lol. I just point out Orion did fight the golem, Which clearly happened on panel. You just need simply admitting youre wrong, But sure we can do a BZ argue was orion fighting the golem in this scene or just fleeing

Where do you see a fight? Do you see an exchange of assaults? What does Orion do on the very next panel? What does Orion have to do to get the Golem to stop pursuing him?

There was no battle.

Originally posted by Stoic
Who do you think that you're dealing with here? Do you think that you're dealing with Carver? As a matter of fact I recall you stating that an entire solar system was destroyed as a side effect of a battle that Orion was in. Is this the so called battle? Put a pin in it.

Lmao, knew the "who do you think" statement would come out.

No, I don't think it's Carver, although you have similar levels of intelligence and dishonesty.

Did I state that? Please quote me. Again, interesting that you have near perfect recall - relatively - for things that suit your worldview.

Yet conveniently forget items that show you up for the dishonest poster you are. Or maybe it's not dishonesty, and you genuinely forgot something from a character that had ~6 appearances total lol.