Originally posted by ilikecomics
You're the only one thinking about that national debt.I kind of feel like you've been going down the libertarian rabbit hole. If you are you definitely wanna read about the federal reserve.
Republicans were not thinking about the national debt when they voted for a $1.9T tax cut for the wealthy, or when Trump raised the national debt $7.8T.
No, they spend when in office, and pretend to care about the debt they rang up when out of office.
Originally posted by ilikecomicsit's not stealing, it's part of being a citizen and they're getting it back in the form of aid.
Lol all the money was stolen from the citizens via taxation. It's pretty easy to give away someone else's money. If you think I'm wrong, tell me a single way a state can create value.
By your logic, car insurance is stealing.
Originally posted by Bashar Teg
So $134B in Corporate Welfare.
That's an extra $446 per American (300M Americans).
What a waste.
Originally posted by Adam_PoE
Republicans were not thinking about the national debt when they voted for a $1.9T tax cut for the wealthy, or when Trump raised the national debt $7.8T.No, they spend when in office, and pretend to care about the debt they rang up when out of office.
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Originally posted by Klaw
So $134B in Corporate Welfare.That's an extra $446 per American (300M Americans).
What a waste.
Originally posted by Klaw
So $1.9T divided by 300M let's say.That's $6,333.34 per American.
Yet the checks are only $1,400.
Let me guess, pork?
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Originally posted by Klaw
You're comparing two different things.Try again.
you clearly suggested that all the money outside of direct checks to the public was "pork". most people shown to be as laughably incorrect as you would be embarrassed, and maybe just admit they were wrong.
sorry eon, you won't waste my time with your bad faith trolling.
Originally posted by Bashar Teg
"nobody cares about your fancy college words...oh crap my power went out, there's no running water, and I'm freezing my balls off. I will now begin scapegoating the left over this, to keep myself warm"
Lol. My point was more that certain publicly funded infrastructure not only directly adds value (the hoover dam both in terms of selling the electricity generated and essentially allowing Las Vegas to exist) but also indirect such as road, rail and high capacity broadband allowing businesses to function more effectively and generate more profit. Then further indirect benefits such as stable, clean water supplies helping maintain public health.
Originally posted by Adam_PoE
Republicans were not thinking about the national debt when they voted for a $1.9T tax cut for the wealthy, or when Trump raised the national debt $7.8T.No, they spend when in office, and pretend to care about the debt they rang up when out of office.
I don't like republicans either. I don't believe in the office of president.
Originally posted by jaden_2.0
Lol. My point was more that certain publicly funded infrastructure not only directly adds value (the hoover dam both in terms of selling the electricity generated and essentially allowing Las Vegas to exist) but also indirect such as road, rail and high capacity broadband allowing businesses to function more effectively and generate more profit. Then further indirect benefits such as stable, clean water supplies helping maintain public health.
Maybe if you need to steal from people to fund a city of debauchery in the desert, there shouldn't be a city of debauchery in the desert.
Originally posted by ilikecomics
Explain what theft is, then explain taxation.
Then tell me how one isn't a long form of the other.
I love seeing the whole taxation is theft argument. It's like the keystone to libertarianism, but I've never seen any of them successfully explain how things like schools, fire departments and infrastructure get funded.
Maybe the ghost of Ayn Rand will know.