Current Superman vs Worldbreaker Hulk

Started by qwertyuiop199841 pages

Except it says on panel he caught it before it released, fields not completely gone like you imply. No explosion or immediate failure.
You reposting my memory circuit scan doesn’t prove anything to your point either.
Superman caught the black hole before it fully released. So tell me how does Superman contain/hold it 🙂 . Superman certainly didnt generate magnetic field in that scene, right?

And yeah no

the magnetic field was failing NOT gone.
The memory circuits got destroyed and the machine itself tried to break its containment.
Superman says on panel he caught it before it fully released which means the containment was still intact.
The ship is unharmed in the last panel of the book.
You ignore my scans and claim you don’t see them. But i'm the "Troll" yeah right laughing out loud

No MATTER how hard you try, you'll ALWAYS fail young padawan.
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So Superman holding this black hole while the magnetic field was failing, You just circle back to the start. Superman didnt generate magnetic field which means he needs to hold it by strength
Speaking of on panel scene, Here we get the containment literally explodes
https://ibb.co/k3PSnwx
full scan
https://readcomiconline.to/Comic/JL...-77?id=39343#18
Also you talking about tenses
here Atom states
"From what I saw of the mnemon's containment device. It WAS essentially an electromagnetic generator"
https://readcomiconline.to/Comic/JL...-77?id=39343#22
So lets do this again. Tell me Alberto, What holding the black hole from releasing when the generator of magnetic field/containment was destroyed?

Originally posted by AlbertoJohnAvil
we're still left with Superman slowly failing to hold a black hole before GL shores him up and helps him contain it.
the blackhole was inside Superman’s closed fist. The shield was around his fist never made contact with the black hole so how did he get help? That’s like saying the ground helped hulk when he was on his knees and a spear on his shoulder pushing him down.

Originally posted by AlbertoJohnAvil
No. Not all black holes are the same size. That's why we have size and mass. That's why we have size classifications for them.
And the force field field never failed.
Green Lantern helped him contain it until they hurled it into a wormhole "before it blows", per Superman's words. So again: he never held back the full force of a Black Hole, and he had HELP to contain it. This feat is useless.

All black holes are the same size (singularities). They only differ in mass or gravitational force field strength.

The comic states that Superman grabbed it right before the black hole FULLY (not partially) released. 😕

Originally posted by qwertyuiop1998
Superman caught the black hole before it fully released. So tell me how does Superman contain/hold it 🙂 . Superman certainly didnt generate magnetic field in that scene, right?
Originally posted by qwertyuiop1998
So Superman holding this black hole while the magnetic field was failing, You just circle back to the start. Superman didnt generate magnetic field which means he needs to hold it by strength
Speaking of on panel scene, Here we get the containment literally explodes
https://ibb.co/k3PSnwx
full scan
https://readcomiconline.to/Comic/JL...-77?id=39343#18
Also you talking about tenses
here Atom states
"From what I saw of the mnemon's containment device. It WAS essentially an electromagnetic generator"
https://readcomiconline.to/Comic/JL...-77?id=39343#22
So lets do this again. Tell me Alberto, What holding the black hole from releasing when the generator of magnetic field/containment was destroyed?

LMAO the magnetic field was still holding. Failing doesn’t equal failed. There’s also the case that there’s the dwarf star matter keeping it at bay, be that it is also failing
And Dr Palmer had also been using white dwarf star matter to keep it shrunken. The same mass doesn’t apply until it reaches regular size

Next page also shows green lantern helping superman contain it

Over time it could engulf the entire solar system as all black holes would be able to do if left in checked, nothing more.

Originally posted by h1a8
All black holes are the same size (singularities). They only differ in mass or gravitational force field strength.

The comic states that Superman grabbed it right before the black hole FULLY (not partially) released. 😕

Black holes are not all the same size... where tf did you get that?

Originally posted by Diesldude
the blackhole was inside Superman’s closed fist. The shield was around his fist never made contact with the black hole so how did he get help? That’s like saying the ground helped hulk when he was on his knees and a spear on his shoulder pushing him down.

Yeah no The problem is there are many factors at work here. The dwarf star matter, the magnetic field which was breached and supermans strength. Then green lanterns ring. It’s GREAT that he was able to hold down the breach but I wouldn’t equate it to that of 3 solar mass as there’s still all the other factors still in place. Black holes grow. But each can begin at very different sizes depending one how it came to form. The hadron collider was stated to be able to create a black hole with 2 atoms smashing together. That’s the size of an atom. With the ones you are talking about that’s 3 suns. That’s a very different size comparison. It’s all down the mass compressed in a singular space

No amount of Superman motivation of "NevER givE uP GUYS!" will change that it's a trash "Feat" overall.

Originally posted by AlbertoJohnAvil
LMAO the magnetic field was still holding. Failing doesn’t equal failed. There’s also the case that there’s the dwarf star matter keeping it at bay, be that it is also failing
And Dr Palmer had also been using white dwarf star matter to keep it shrunken. The same mass doesn’t apply until it reaches regular size

Next page also shows green lantern helping superman contain it

Over time it could engulf the entire solar system as all black holes would be able to do if left in checked, nothing more.

Black holes are not all the same size... where tf did you get that?

Yeah no The problem is there are many factors at work here. The dwarf star matter, the magnetic field which was breached and supermans strength. Then green lanterns ring. It’s GREAT that he was able to hold down the breach but I wouldn’t equate it to that of 3 solar mass as there’s still all the other factors still in place. Black holes grow. But each can begin at very different sizes depending one how it came to form. The hadron collider was stated to be able to create a black hole with 2 atoms smashing together. That’s the size of an atom. With the ones you are talking about that’s 3 suns. That’s a very different size comparison. It’s all down the mass compressed in a singular space

No amount of Superman motivation of "NevER givE uP GUYS!" will change that it's a trash "Feat" overall.


If it was a trash feat why are you and your crew so butthurt? Lmao.
Don’t bring up irrelevant stuff you just googled without fully understanding it.

Now did you just say Superman held the breach? Read the comic again, clearly stated that he held the black hole.

Originally posted by Diesldude
If it was a trash feat why are you and your crew so butthurt? Lmao.
Don’t bring up irrelevant stuff you just googled without fully understanding it.

Now did you just say Superman held the breach? Read the comic again, clearly stated that he held the black hole.

Except he didn't. the scan itself says the mechanism is doing the bulk of the work and Supes and Stewart are temporarily "plugging" it. you sit in the tub with your action figures replaying this scan like this dont you? Trying to explain the already explained huh 😂

a black hole no bigger then a spec of dust as Ray Palmer specifically mentioned. It’s ALRIGHT but it’s not a stellar black hole:

Let's see you go through a bunch of mental gymnastics to make it seem like it is and fail horribly again tho,

This shit is hilarious cuz I don't even consider it planetary and he held it for few seconds. nearly got sucked in.

Btw, just incase the stans forgot, Mnemon is a synthetic being whose creater Synthesized its black hole (meaning its not a real black hole):

But trying to apply actual "black hole" mass to it. The desperation is noted 😂

"ReAd ThE cOmIc AgAiN"

""Nah manthat's head canon"
Then the superman bridage wonder why I look at them the way I look at them.

@AlbertoJohnAvil

And Dr Palmer had also been using white dwarf star matter to keep it shrunken. The same mass doesn’t apply until it reaches regular size

First of all Atom didnt help shrink tje black hole. The white dwarf helps Atom Adjust his mass and density not helps shrink the black hole which explicitly stated in the comic

LMAO the magnetic field was still holding.

And the magnetic field failing before Superman reaches it. When Superman reaching the black hole the space around it was warped and Superman also stated he holds it before the black hole fully released, Which indicates The black hole already broke the field or moment before
Again can you read?

Originally posted by qwertyuiop1998
@AlbertoJohnAvil

First of all Atom didnt help shrink tje black hole. The white dwarf helps Atom Adjust his mass and density not helps shrink the black hole which explicitly stated in the comic

And the magnetic field failing before Superman reaches it. When Superman reaching the black hole the space around it was warped and Superman also stated he holds it before the black hole fully released, Which indicates The black hole already broke the field or moment before
Again can you read?

LMAO by that time it's a shared feat between him and Jon replacing the ORIGINAL CONTAINER by creating their own combined EM field. you are digging yourself a hole my guy. Matter Go ahead and post the scan when he threw cuz I KNOW you got it. And And the black hole didn't break the field, what superman did caused it. Nice try

Originally posted by AlbertoJohnAvil
LMAO by that time it's a shared feat between him and Jon replacing the ORIGINAL CONTAINER by creating their own combined EM field. you are digging yourself a hole my guy. Matter Go ahead and post the scan when he threw cuz I KNOW you got it. And And the black hole didn't break the field, what superman did caused it. Nice try
So tell me Alberto. Why the space around it was warped when Superman reaching the black hole. And what stopping the black hole from fully releasing? And most of all, Please prove the magnetic field still holding the black hole when Superman reached it 🙂

Originally posted by AlbertoJohnAvil
Except he didn't. the scan itself says the mechanism is doing the bulk of the work and Supes and Stewart are temporarily "plugging" it. you sit in the tub with your action figures replaying this scan like this dont you? Trying to explain the already explained huh 😂

how long ago did somebody say that to you and you were just waiting for the opportunity to say it someone else? not even remotely funny though.

What does it say here? Breach or blackhole?

Originally posted by qwertyuiop1998
So tell me Alberto. Why the space around it was warped when Superman reaching the black hole. And what stopping the black hole from fully releasing? And most of all, Please prove the magnetic field still holding the black hole when Superman reached it 🙂

the space around the Event horizon of ANY black hole will cause a warp. The black hole in this feat was synthesised. It didn’t even have time to create an accretion disk.
https://www.physicsoftheuniverse.com/topics_blackholes_event.html?

for further reading you’ll see that around the event horizon light bends and there’s to be a time dilation.
It’s normal for ANY black hole regardless of it being stellar or miniature due to the affects of its gravitational pull.
The black hole had breached the field. Superman very specifically states “it is breaking through”. He then mentions that he “got it before it was fully released”. At this point GL is shown escorting him with his own constructs around his hand.
But the main crops of all of this is that it is a miniature black hole. This has been mentioned TWICE in the comic and it is a synthesised black hole. Also mentioned more then once.
It cannot be compared to a "Stellar" black hole.

Originally posted by Diesldude
how long ago did somebody say that to you and you were just waiting for the opportunity to say it someone else? not even remotely funny though.

What does it say here? Breach or blackhole?

Keywords....Can. Once. Didnt say is. Above that, it said its breaking not it's broken free.

Originally posted by qwertyuiop1998
So tell me Alberto. Why the space around it was warped when Superman reaching the black hole. And what stopping the black hole from fully releasing? And most of all, Please prove the magnetic field still holding the black hole when Superman reached it 🙂

already explained the spacial warp. Read again. The black hole fully being released was stopped and controlled by the remains of the magnetic field, supermans hands and John Stewart’s construct. This is very CLEARLY defined. It’s at no point said the gravitational field was destroyed. It did say it was breached

"Yo my can of soda is leaking, that's why my hand is wet. I plug the hole so it doesnt fully flow out. My soda is still in the can container doing the most of the holding of my soda" I seriously had to dumb this shit down for yall. 😂

the space around the Event horizon of ANY black hole will cause a warp

So youre saying when the space was warped the black hole was already ocurred.Thanks 😆
The black hole in this feat was synthesised. It didn’t even have time to create an accretion disk.

Again it was synthesized doesnt mean it was less effective than normal black holes. The comic even stated it could destroy the entire solar system
Superman very specifically states “it is breaking through”. He then mentions that he “got it before it was fully released”

So what do you think was stopping the black hole from fully releasing, Or Are you saying Superman has some kind of power that can generate magnetic field 🙂 ?

Originally posted by AlbertoJohnAvil
"Yo my can of soda is leaking, that's why my hand is wet. I plug the hole so it doesnt fully flow out. My soda is still in the can container doing the most of the holding of my soda" I seriously had to dumb this shit down for yall. 😂
But the container of this Black hole was magnetic field. And Superman's hands didnt generate magnetic field. 😛

Aye Diesl I'm glad you posted this cuz you literally backed me up with this one page

literally superman stating the obvious. Literally said “and even a miniature black hole, once set free (which means it is not yet free) can (future tense) cause disaster....”

😂