Originally posted by qwertyuiop1998
So youre saying when the space was warped the black hole was already ocurred.Thanks 😆Again it was synthesized doesnt mean it was less effective than normal black holes. The comic even stated it could destroy the entire solar system
So what do you think was stopping the black hole from fully releasing, Or Are you saying Superman has some kind of power that can generate magnetic field 🙂 ?
it DOES actually mean a lot. It being synthesised AND it’s size plays a big role. You can’t say that a miniature black hole has the same solar mass as a stellar black hole. They are made differently. A miniature black hole IS in fact a synthesised black hole. Go back to the post I made about the hadron collider.
And it’s funny you mention that. In the comic it also shows Ray Palmer saying they need to create a magnetic field to hold it (what was breached) in place so they can throw it into the wormhole. Superman generates static electricity to do so and John applies magnetism.
Originally posted by qwertyuiop1998
So you have no evidence to prove the synthesized black hole is less effective than normal black holes. And when Superman holding the black hole he didnt generate magnetic field.Concession accepted
"Idk how to rebuttal so i'm gonna ignore it again" Hilarious you come to that conclusion when I’ve literally stated that a miniature black hole is a synthesised black hole. But nah "me WiLl nOt ReAd!"
👍 concession accepted. 😂
Originally posted by AlbertoJohnAvilYou dont make any argument just say your headcanon
"Idk how to rebuttal so i'm gonna ignore it again"👍 concession accepted. 😂
Originally posted by qwertyuiop1998
So Superman holding this black hole while the magnetic field was failing, You just circle back to the start. Superman didnt generate magnetic field which means he needs to hold it by strength
Speaking of on panel scene, Here we get the containment literally explodes
https://ibb.co/k3PSnwx
full scan
https://readcomiconline.to/Comic/JL...-77?id=39343#18
Originally posted by qwertyuiop1998
Ehhhh, No the containment already gone because we literally see Superman's heat vision blow the containment
Here atom saw the containment, Which later mnemon projecting his face on it
https://readcomiconline.to/Comic/JLA-1997/Issue-77?id=39343#10
Mnemon projecting his face on it
https://readcomiconline.to/Comic/JLA-1997/Issue-77?id=39343#12
https://readcomiconline.to/Comic/JLA-1997/Issue-77?id=39343#13
And later we see Superman's heat vision damage it and the containment blow apart
https://readcomiconline.to/Comic/JLA-1997/Issue-77?id=39343#17
https://readcomiconline.to/Comic/JLA-1997/Issue-77?id=39343#18
Originally posted by qwertyuiop1998
You dont make any argument just say your headcanon
1 Prove the black hole was less effective than normal black holes
2 That wasnt a breach nor was leaking because we see the magnetic field that contained the black hole was blew apartThen we literally get Superman saying the black hole is about to set free
https://postimg.cc/WtPq2SqR
And when Superman reaching it the black hold was already warping the space around it
https://ibb.co/PFmnMXF
https://readcomiconline.to/Comic/JLA-1997/Issue-77?id=39343#19
Superman stopping it by using his hands to contain it from FULLY releasing.
Until two scnas later Atom suggests Superamn and Green Lantern imitate the magnetic field that once contained the black hole
https://readcomiconline.to/Comic/JLA-1997/Issue-77?id=39343#20
https://readcomiconline.to/Comic/JLA-1997/Issue-77?id=39343#21
https://readcomiconline.to/Comic/JLA-1997/Issue-77?id=39343#22
So again, Tell me alberto. What did Superman use to contain the black hole in this scan? His strength? Or unless youre total Superman wanker and giving him Magneto style energy manipulation lol
https://readcomiconline.to/Comic/JLA-1997/Issue-77?id=39343#19
it didn’t blow apart and prove THIS miniature black was effective and its was contained and failed to destroy the ship it powers. Go ahead and prove a synthetic black hole or a miniature Black hole is the same as a regular one.
What you see blow up isn't the magnetic field,
Its the thermocouples around the main core that was destroyed by Superman's heat vision:
Then Clark mentioned its starting to break through the magnetic field and that he contained it before it fully released:
Your scan is Superman explaining a miniature Black hole once free
Not him saying the Black hole is about to set free
Bio electrical aura with strength helped hold the "Synthetic" Black hole gravity.. He didn't know how long he had left, John aided him to hold it longer, nothing more. Now, go ahead and ignore all of this and repeat yourself ad nauseam so i can keep dismantling you
😂
Originally posted by AlbertoJohnAvil
the space around the Event horizon of ANY black hole will cause a warp. The black hole in this feat was synthesised. It didn’t even have time to create an accretion disk.
https://www.physicsoftheuniverse.com/topics_blackholes_event.html?for further reading you’ll see that around the event horizon light bends and there’s to be a time dilation.
It’s normal for ANY black hole regardless of it being stellar or miniature due to the affects of its gravitational pull.
The black hole had breached the field. Superman very specifically states “it is breaking through”. He then mentions that he “got it before it was fully released”. At this point GL is shown escorting him with his own constructs around his hand.
But the main crops of all of this is that it is a miniature black hole. This has been mentioned TWICE in the comic and it is a synthesised black hole. Also mentioned more then once.
It cannot be compared to a "Stellar" black hole.
The warp was explained. Clearly the black hole didn't fully go off or Batman would have been killed, but you keep trying 😂
it didn’t blow apart and prove THIS miniature black was effective and its was contained and failed to destroy the ship it powers. Go ahead and prove a synthetic black hole or a miniature Black hole is the same as a regular one.
What you see blow up isn't the magnetic field,
Its the thermocouples around the main core that was destroyed by Superman's heat vision:
Originally posted by qwertyuiop1998
@AlbertoJohnAvil
The scan you posted yourself remember?
It literally spelled out black hole and magnetic field
https://ibb.co/hgrCzzQ
Originally posted by qwertyuiop1998
Ehhhh, No the containment already gone because we literally see Superman's heat vision blow the containment
Here atom saw the containment, Which later mnemon projecting his face on it
https://readcomiconline.to/Comic/JLA-1997/Issue-77?id=39343#10
Mnemon projecting his face on it
https://readcomiconline.to/Comic/JLA-1997/Issue-77?id=39343#12
https://readcomiconline.to/Comic/JLA-1997/Issue-77?id=39343#13
And later we see Superman's heat vision damage it and the containment blow apart
https://readcomiconline.to/Comic/JLA-1997/Issue-77?id=39343#17
https://readcomiconline.to/Comic/JLA-1997/Issue-77?id=39343#18
Then Clark mentioned its starting to break through the magnetic field and that he contained it before it fully released:
Your scan is Superman explaining a miniature Black hole once free
Not him saying the Black hole is about to set free
Bio electrical aura with strength helped hold the "Synthetic" Black hole gravity.. He didn't know how long he had left, John aided him to hold it longer, nothing more. Now, go ahead and ignore all of this and repeat yourself ad nauseam so i can keep dismantling you
Originally posted by qwertyuiop1998
Until two scnas later Atom suggests Superamn and Green Lantern imitate the magnetic field that once contained the black hole
https://readcomiconline.to/Comic/JLA-1997/Issue-77?id=39343#20
https://readcomiconline.to/Comic/JLA-1997/Issue-77?id=39343#21
https://readcomiconline.to/Comic/JLA-1997/Issue-77?id=39343#22
Originally posted by qwertyuiop1998
Except the comic clearly stated the black hole could destroy the solar system
https://readcomiconline.to/Comic/JLA-1997/Issue-77?id=39343#11I already posted and explained this to you multiple times
Again, Tell me what do you think is the little sphere in those scans?
You literally contradicting yourself in this two sentences
No, I literally just explained to you this part
Yeah no The Magnetic field was never Said to have been blown apart. Again, the next panel down says “got it before it fully released”. That’s proof that it was still in the field. There was a breach as it did say it was “breaking threw”.
All mentioned in that exact same page.
Superman (as I’ve already mentioned) is stating the magnitude of what could happen IF a miniature black hole was to roam free. VERY clearly mentioned in the feat. I don’t see how it’s possible to misinterpret that. It’s literally in his own words. “and even a miniature black hole, once set free (which means it is not yet free) can (future tense) cause disaster....” he in NO way said it was set free.
LMAO, The event horizon of ANY black hole, miniature or Stellar will begin to warp space around it.
Ray Palmer: “If you and green lantern can create a strong enough magnetic field you can hold the gravity and memories IN CHECK”
Key words IN CHECK. This easily means the magnetic field is not strong enough. Not that it’s absent. Not that it’s gone. Self explanatory.
Originally posted by AlbertoJohnAvilEhhh, Yeah, You just literally proved the black hole was already free
The warp was explained. Clearly the black hole didn't fully go off or Batman would have been killed, but you keep trying 😂
the space around the Event horizon of ANY black hole will cause a warp
a MINIATURE BLACK HOLE is a SYNTHESISED BLACK HOLE. For it to at ALL be relatable to a stellar black hole it would HAVE to be the size of a star. But it is not. It is a black hole which has been said many many many times to be the size of a spec of dust and to be a miniature black hole. That’s enough proof of how much it lacks in comparison to a stellar black hole. Keep trying tho, you're not running from this. 😂
Originally posted by qwertyuiop1998
Ehhh, Yeah, You just literally proved the black hole was already freeAnd we see the warp 😆
https://ibb.co/PFmnMXF
LMAO ‘breached’.. a breach implies its influence can get threw. This means it can bend space threw that breach. That doesn’t mean the magnetic field wasn’t present. As I said before and as superman himself said ‘it’s breaking threw the magnetic field’
YOU actually thought.. 😂 Keep trying
Originally posted by qwertyuiop1998
Except the comic clearly stated the black hole could destroy the solar system
https://readcomiconline.to/Comic/JLA-1997/Issue-77?id=39343#11I already posted and explained this to you multiple times
Again, Tell me what do you think is the little sphere in those scans?
You literally contradicting yourself in this two sentences
No, I literally just explained to you this part
What is inside is kept in check by a magnetic field:
Thermocouples that hold the main core is destroyed causing the magnetic field to malfunction (Not get destroyed)
Nice try. 😂 WATCHING you fail this bad is great entertainment.
Yeah no The Magnetic field was never Said to have been blown apart. Again, the next panel down says “got it before it fully released”. That’s proof that it was still in the field. There was a breach as it did say it was “breaking threw”.
Originally posted by AlbertoJohnAvil
LMAO by that time it's a shared feat between him and Jon replacing the ORIGINAL CONTAINER by creating their own combined EM field.
Superman (as I’ve already mentioned) is stating the magnitude of what could happen IF a miniature black hole was to roam free. VERY clearly mentioned in the feat. I don’t see how it’s possible to misinterpret that. It’s literally in his own words. “and even a miniature black hole, once set free (which means it is not yet free) can (future tense) cause disaster....” he in NO way said it was set free.
Originally posted by qwertyuiop1998
Then we literally get Superman saying the black hole is about to set free
https://postimg.cc/WtPq2SqR
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Ray Palmer: “If you and green lantern can create a strong enough magnetic field you can hold the gravity and memories IN CHECK”
Key words IN CHECK. This easily means the magnetic field is not strong enough. Not that it’s absent. Not that it’s gone. Self explanatory.
On to the talk that Atom mentioned.
"One screw up and the black hole could escape the magnetic field"
Note how Ray doesn't say "One screw up breaks the field"
Now lets put two parts together for context.
"Thermocouples get destroyed"
Moments later
"Its breaking through the magnetic field"
So how is the magnetic field destroyed if Clark is literally saying its there but its breaking though it? 😂 I WANT a good RESPONSE, make it good., or run, doesn't matter.
LMAO ‘breached’.. a breach implies its influence can get threw. This means it can bend space threw that breach. That doesn’t mean the magnetic field wasn’t present. As I said before and as superman himself said ‘it’s breaking threw the magnetic field’
Originally posted by qwertyuiop1998
You dont make any argument just say your headcanon
1 Prove the black hole was less effective than normal black holes
2 That wasnt a breach nor was leaking because we see the magnetic field that contained the black hole was blew apartThen we literally get Superman saying the black hole is about to set free
https://postimg.cc/WtPq2SqR
And when Superman reaching it the black hold was already warping the space around it
https://ibb.co/PFmnMXF
https://readcomiconline.to/Comic/JLA-1997/Issue-77?id=39343#19
Superman stopping it by using his hands to contain it from FULLY releasing.
Until two scnas later Atom suggests Superamn and Green Lantern imitate the magnetic field that once contained the black hole
https://readcomiconline.to/Comic/JLA-1997/Issue-77?id=39343#20
https://readcomiconline.to/Comic/JLA-1997/Issue-77?id=39343#21
https://readcomiconline.to/Comic/JLA-1997/Issue-77?id=39343#22
So again, Tell me alberto. What did Superman use to contain the black hole in this scan? His strength? Or unless youre total Superman wanker and giving him Magneto style energy manipulation lol
https://readcomiconline.to/Comic/JLA-1997/Issue-77?id=39343#19
Originally posted by qwertyuiop1998
Superman got the black hole before it fully released. Again, Tell me Alberto, How did Superman contain/stop it from fully releasing? His strength? Or unless youre total Superman wanker and giving him Magneto style energy manipulation lol
Hell, You even admitted the magnetic field was already gone that Superman and Green Lantern need to replacing the ORIGINAL CONTAINER by creating their own combined EM field 😆That is why I said about to set free . I didnt say it was free. Again, Can you read Alberto?
No, In Check doesnt mean that.
It means under control per Oxford Languages
If anything it just proves youre wrong because it proves the black hole didnt under control( I.E wasnt contained by the magnetic field before Superman and Green Lantern generate it)
His Bio electrical aura with strength helped hold the "Synthetic" Black hole gravity.. He didn't know how long he had left, John aided him to hold it longer, nothing more. I actually said this above.
One: still has a magnetic field
Two:Bio- Electro arua and strength
Three: Was covered by John fast
Originally posted by AlbertoJohnAvil
On to the talk that Atom mentioned.
"One screw up and the black hole could escape the magnetic field"
Note how Ray doesn't say "One screw up breaks the field"Now lets put two parts together for context.
"Thermocouples get destroyed"Moments later
"Its breaking through the magnetic field"So how is the magnetic field destroyed if Clark is literally saying its there but its breaking though it? 😂 I WANT a good RESPONSE, make it good., or run, doesn't matter.
Originally posted by AlbertoJohnAvil
LMAO by that time it's a shared feat between him and Jon replacing the ORIGINAL CONTAINER by creating their own combined EM field.