Originally posted by AlbertoJohnAvil
LMAO a black hole the size you're describing is a micro black hole, with a minimum mass of 22.1 micrograms, or 2.21×10^-8 kg.
A black hole this small instantly collapses in on itself and evaporates almost instantly, which is exactly what should have happened when that containment field failed.
For the fact that it did not, it did not behave as a normal black hole of that size SHOULD.
It did not obey the laws of physics for a black hole of its size, at all, so why are you continuing to tell me what a normal black hole should do, when THIS black hole didn't do what it was supposed to?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Micro_black_holeJust stop.
You are confusing that with the size of the smallest possible black hole, i.e. a black hole whose Schwarzschild radius is equal to the Planck length. You are extremely confused and ignorant about the basic black hole physics, as expected from someone who just randomly googles and copy-pastes stuff without any understanding of the topic at hand.
Originally posted by Delta1938
Failberto demanded a quantifiable feat to go up against Hulk, and he used Exitar. Except his argument for why it's impressive is Exitar being a cosmic being that can increase his strength. So unquantifiable. When he realized it's unquantifiable he said to someone else just because a feat is unquantifiable doesn't mean it can't be used. But never actually acknowledged that he used this while demanding quantifiable feats.He also said about the black hole that it's not a striking feat.....even though Exitar would be a lifting feat. So he's desperately trying to argue the black hole feat isn't impressive.
In addition to the blatant hypocrisy and general failing, if I remember the scene correctly, it was Rogue using Hulk's power and OTHERS. I tried looking for the scans in here, by Failberto's response that they already were posted I assumed it was before him and Disel started this ride we've been on, but I didn't find them. Unless they were posted after that, either they were posted elsewhere(which would be his job to link) or he just lied. I wanna take a look because I want to be sure I'm remembering right it was Rogue with a lot more than just Hulk.
yep but the main point was that albie used that feat for the hulk when,
1. It wasn’t just the hulk
2. They still failed
3. It wasn’t quantifiable.
The buffoon set the conditions and the feat he brought up didn’t check off a single one.
Originally posted by Diesldude
yep but the main point was that albie used that feat for the hulk when,
1. It wasn’t just the hulk
2. They still failed
3. It wasn’t quantifiable.The buffoon set the conditions and the feat he brought up didn’t check off a single one.
And he finally realized this so is desperately copy/pasting stuff he doesn't understand to divert attention. Even if he were miraculously right about the feat, still Superman wins since Failberto used an invalid "feat."
Irrelevant things
1. Size of the black hole
2. Artificial black hole
Why? Because the black hole destroyed an entire galaxy (also shown to destroy solar systems) and was stated to be able to destroy a solar system (within a small frame of time).
Heres the kicker.
If you replace the Sun with a 3.3 solar mass black hole then the planets will continue to orbit it indefinitely. Nothing will be destroyed in a small time frame.
Originally posted by h1a8
Then you can't read. The comic clearly shows that it was destroying entire solar systems years before it encountered Earth. This is at the beginning of the comic. Also in the last part of the story it was confirmed that it destroyed an entire galaxy prior. So the black hole was beyond any natural black hole in strength. I can post scans if you want. But you said that you have the comic right?Why do you keep mentioning the size of the event horizon? That isn't the singularity (which is at the center of the event horizon). The size of the singularity isn't dependent on the mass of the black hole, the size of the event horizon is. The size of the singularity is always the same in any black hole, no matter the mass.
My information on the size of the singularity comes from multiple sources (interviews from Neil deGrasse Tyson, Michio Kaku, etc, books, etc). This is basic common knowledge for people with a science background. Don't believe me? Go to physicsforums.com and ask any physicist there.
The effects of the black hole being contained implies no event horizon. You clearly see the black hole (with event horizon) grow to the size of the wormhole when Superman threw it in.
😂 LMAO this is the best you can come up with? l I’m going to dismantle everything you said when I finished work because i know exactly where the mix up is. Your mixing up Mnemon with the black hole he created, buckle up, this is about to be a long beatdown on you and the superman brigade or 400+ pages straight. You're not running from this.
for not I’ll leave you with the information that Mnemon used the black hole to shave memories (part 1)
(Part 2)
(Part 4)
He did NOT use the black hole to destroy galaxies. That is your biggest misinterpretation. He also destroyed galaxies over time. But that’s besides the point. Clown.
Originally posted by h1a8
Irrelevant things
1. Size of the black hole
2. Artificial black holeWhy? Because the black hole destroyed an entire galaxy (also shown to destroy solar systems) and was stated to be able to destroy a solar system (within a small frame of time).
Heres the kicker.
If you replace the Sun with a 3.3 solar mass black hole then the planets will continue to orbit it indefinitely. Nothing will be destroyed in a small time frame.
WRONG again. 1. Absolutely relevant.
2. Also relevant.
Why? Because you keep falling back on physics claims, which are all based on actual measurements for REAL black holes. Try again
Originally posted by Magnon
You are wrong, I am describing a black hole with the size of [B]a speck of dust.You are confusing that with the size of the smallest possible black hole, i.e. a black hole whose Schwarzschild radius is equal to the Planck length. You are extremely confused and ignorant about the basic black hole physics, as expected from someone who just randomly googles and copy-pastes stuff without any understanding of the topic at hand. [/B]
You got me on misreading a micro black hole, but I can pull up a model from a guy with a Ph. D. which will show that a black hole 1mm wide -- exponentially larger than your speck of dust -- wouldn't even completely swallow the earth, much less the solar system (but it would absolutely still kill us).
So, again, this black hole doesn't behave like a natural black hole at all, and you continue to post as if it does. You can keep doing that, and I'll keep repeating myself. It's not a strength feat, nor is it "impressive"
I get off real soon, I'll come back to spank you kids more. I don't mind this going on to 1000 pages, I got time.
Originally posted by h1a8
Irrelevant things
1. Size of the black hole
2. Artificial black holeWhy? Because the black hole destroyed an entire galaxy (also shown to destroy solar systems) and was stated to be able to destroy a solar system (within a small frame of time).
Heres the kicker.
If you replace the Sun with a 3.3 solar mass black hole then the planets will continue to orbit it indefinitely. Nothing will be destroyed in a small time frame.
Also, NOW, Now in regards to the singularity. You keep saying very different things. In your own words “the black hole extends to is event horizon. it can be better to say that the black hole is a singularity”
In the comic, it is talking about the ENTIRE black holes size being the size of a spec of dust. Not simply the singularity. And also the size of the singularity is irrelevant to its mass. The mass is calculated via the radius of the event horizon.
Chandra Observatory explain this:
https://chandra.si.edu/edu/formal/math/7Page81.pdf
Stating that the size of a black hole and it being artificial is irrelevant has completely lost you this argument.
I’ve got more to say later on
Originally posted by AlbertoJohnAvil
😂 LMAO this is the best you can come up with? l I’m going to dismantle everything you said when I finished work because i know exactly where the mix up is. Your mixing up Mnemon with the black hole he created, buckle up, this is about to be a long beatdown on you and the superman brigade or 400+ pages straight. You're not running from this.for not I’ll leave you with the information that Mnemon used the black hole to shave memories (part 1)
(Part 2)
(Part 4)
He did NOT use the black hole to destroy galaxies. That is your biggest misinterpretation. He also destroyed galaxies over time. But that’s besides the point. Clown.
WRONG again. 1. Absolutely relevant.
2. Also relevant.
Why? Because you keep falling back on physics claims, which are all based on actual measurements for REAL black holes. Try againYou got me on misreading a micro black hole, but I can pull up a model from a guy with a Ph. D. which will show that a black hole 1mm wide -- exponentially larger than your speck of dust -- wouldn't even completely swallow the earth, much less the solar system (but it would absolutely still kill us).
So, again, this black hole doesn't behave like a natural black hole at all, and you continue to post as if it does. You can keep doing that, and I'll keep repeating myself. It's not a strength feat, nor is it "impressive"I get off real soon, I'll come back to spank you kids more. I don't mind this going on to 1000 pages, I got time.
The size of the black hole and whether it is artificial or not is irrelevant since we know how strong it is. It is capable of destroying a solar system in a small time frame and has even destroyed an entire galaxy before.
If you can lift 200 pounds then your size and whether you are artificial is irrelevant. You can still lift 200 pounds regardless. And for me to withstand your strength I would have to withstand 200 pounds of force.
Also, NOW, Now in regards to the singularity. You keep saying very different things. In your own words “the black hole extends to is event horizon. it can be better to say that the black hole is a singularity”
In the comic, it is talking about the ENTIRE black holes size being the size of a spec of dust. Not simply the singularity. And also the size of the singularity is irrelevant to its mass. The mass is calculated via the radius of the event horizon.
Chandra Observatory explain this:
https://chandra.si.edu/edu/formal/math/7Page81.pdf
Stating that the size of a black hole and it being artificial is irrelevant has completely lost you this argument.
I’ve got more to say later on
Originally posted by AlbertoJohnAvil
Also, NOW, Now in regards to the singularity. You keep saying very different things. In your own words “the black hole extends to is event horizon. it can be better to say that the black hole is a singularity”
In the comic, it is talking about the ENTIRE black holes size being the size of a spec of dust. Not simply the singularity. And also the size of the singularity is irrelevant to its mass. The mass is calculated via the radius of the event horizon.
Chandra Observatory explain this:
https://chandra.si.edu/edu/formal/math/7Page81.pdf
Stating that the size of a black hole and it being artificial is irrelevant has completely lost you this argument.
I’ve got more to say later on
Although the size is irrelevant as I just proved, you have to prove that the comic is referring to the event horizon as the size of the black hole. We clearly see the black hole grow to full size (almost as big as the wormhole itself) when Superman released it and threw it.
https://readcomiconline.to/Comic/JLA-1997/Issue-77?id=39343#11
"The black hole could escape the magnetic field. And its good-bye solar system "
And Like stilt in other thread said
Alberto, you realize that none of "your" scans even work, right? At least pay some effort if you want to copy posts of others and use the quote button to give them credit
Originally posted by h1a8
Also, NOW, Now in regards to the singularity. You keep saying very different things. In your own words “the black hole extends to is event horizon. it can be better to say that the black hole is a singularity”
In the comic, it is talking about the ENTIRE black holes size being the size of a spec of dust. Not simply the singularity. And also the size of the singularity is irrelevant to its mass. The mass is calculated via the radius of the event horizon.
Chandra Observatory explain this:
https://chandra.si.edu/edu/formal/math/7Page81.pdf
Stating that the size of a black hole and it being artificial is irrelevant has completely lost you this argument.
I’ve got more to say later onAlthough the size is irrelevant as I just proved, you have to prove that the comic is referring to the event horizon as the size of the black hole. We clearly see the black hole grow to full size (almost as big as the wormhole itself) when Superman released it and threw it.
Yeah no It did NOT destroy the galaxy. It VERY specifically stated that it was Mnemon who destroyed the galaxy. The black hole was use to record the memories. Read the comic again
Originally posted by StiltmanFTWMy original ban from Space Battles is a classic, one of the mods changed my post and then banned me for breaking the rules, I had been very careful to not cross the line where I could be banned but caused havoc, perhaps my best thread as a sock after that was one regurgitated many times by others later, that Doctor who was a paedophile because he liked to pick up little girls in parks and groom them to go travelling with him as young adults, the evidence till the Doctor became a female is actually quite compelling, perhaps after Savile at the BBC that is eventual reason they changed his sex and retconned his origin, we will never know. 😂
I wonder how many of Alberto's posts are his own and not copied from spacebattles, comicvine or other sites.