Originally posted by StiltmanFTWBran has always been a troll. He has never been a good debater at all. He is marvel bias and a Thanos fanboy.
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He thinks that anything that goes against his faulty logic is trolling.
He pretends a member is trolling when certain facts are brought up AFTER they posted as if they were ignoring evidence.
Originally posted by Astner
Superman didn't "hold a black hole." He held together a device that contained a black hole. In fact it's specifically explained that it's the electromagnetic field that contains the black hole, not Superman's physical interaction with it.Does it make sense that a electromagnetic field would impede a gravitational field? No. But you could always justify that with alternate physics.
However, nowhere is it said that Superman exposed to the actual gravity of the black hole. In fact he specifically points out that the device exerts pressure (which he counteracts with his closed fist) which is the opposite of what a black hole does.
And the scale of the pressure is neither specified nor implied.
The author is basically saying that everyone is alive because Superman got it a split second before it was fully released.
Once in his hands it became released. The pressure could be from holding the black hole, the pressure could be from the gravitational pull trying to suck the inside of his palm.
We can safely assume that the black hole was released while within Superman’s grip because they had to generate a new magnetic field before Superman tossed it. Why did they have to do this if it wasn’t fully released?
Originally posted by Diesldude
No one is disputing that Superman grabbed it before it was fully released. But why do you think that mnemon would stop trying to release it from the inside Superman’s hands. Superman is shielding everyone outside not the black hole from the magnetic field.The author is basically saying that everyone is alive because Superman got it a split second before it was fully released.
Once in his hands it became released. The pressure could be from holding the black hole, the pressure could be from the gravitational pull trying to suck the inside of his palm.
We can safely assume that the black hole was released while within Superman’s grip because they had to generate a new magnetic field before Superman tossed it. Why did they have to do this if it wasn’t fully released?
"We can safely assume" "Assume".....ASSUME.
And the writer SAID Smothered. Not resisted. Not overpowered. Smothered. As in covered completely and blocked. Which a "feat" ..that even the writer couldn't 100% confirm for you. 🤦🏾‍♂️
Originally posted by AlbertoJohnAvilgoogle the difference between a singularity and event horizon. Paste the results here and we’ll help you understand them. Maybe after that you can understand why h1 said what he said. Maybe. No guarantees when it comes to you thougH.Just when i was about to address H1, i see another poster spanking.
How tf is h1 still allowed to be on this forum when he just said that every black hole that exists is the same size. GTFOH with that shit
Originally posted by Magnon
Well, if we consider a charged, non-rotating black hole, then the Cauchy (-) and event (+) horizons are given by:with
and
Clearly, the location of both horizons depends on both the mass M and charge Q. The location of the outer horizon is independent of charge only if you express it in terms of the "irreducible mass" of the black hole (which is a different thing from its "mass"😉. I'm not an expert in Kerr-Newman black holes but I'd expect the same to be true there. When you speak of "mass", are you thinking of "irreducible mass" instead?
Not that this is a big deal regarding the argument. A naked singularity can occur (mathematically speaking, at least) in a pure Reissner–Nordström space-time as well, no angular momentum is required.
What you're describing with r± is the point of no return for free electrons or protons (depending on the charge of the black hole).
Originally posted by Diesldude
No one is disputing that Superman grabbed it before it was fully released. But why do you think that mnemon would stop trying to release it from the inside Superman’s hands. Superman is shielding everyone outside not the black hole from the magnetic field.The author is basically saying that everyone is alive because Superman got it a split second before it was fully released.
Once in his hands it became released. The pressure could be from holding the black hole, the pressure could be from the gravitational pull trying to suck the inside of his palm.
We can safely assume that the black hole was released while within Superman’s grip because they had to generate a new magnetic field before Superman tossed it. Why did they have to do this if it wasn’t fully released?
CBR argued for years that the wording meant it was still partially shielded in his hand.
But yeah, releasing the shield should logically mean no shield.
Originally posted by cdtmthe magnetic field was cancelling out the black hole’s gravitational pull. Mnemon was trying to break the magnetic field and release the blackhole. Superman grabbed it while it was still trying. Now why would mnemon stop trying to break the magnetic field just because Superman got a hand around it. It’s best course would be to break the magnetic field, have the blackhole destroy everything like the previous solar systems. But people think that mnemon gave up once Superman got him.
CBR argued for years that the wording meant it was still partially shielded in his hand.But yeah, releasing the shield should logically mean no shield.
Originally posted by h1a8
The comic clearly states the black hole was FULLY (not partially) released in Superman's hands. 😕Obviously it is reasonable to assume that Superman prevented the black hole from blowing up. When he threw it, he released the pressure and it did what is was going to do if Superman never grabbed it.
The writer, through the story, implies that if Superman didn't do what he did the solar system would be destroyed. So at minimum Superman was preventing the destruction of the solar system.
And you are not using logic. If the device still contained the black hole then there was no reason for Superman to contain it with his hands or for Batman to panic that it is going to destroy the solar system. That would defeat the whole purpose.
Originally posted by Diesldude
google the difference between a singularity and event horizon. Paste the results here and we’ll help you understand them. Maybe after that you can understand why h1 said what he said. Maybe. No guarantees when it comes to you thougH.
Yeah no it would be a strength feat if anything about it made sense to normal physics.
You posted about spaghettification and event horizonz while ignoring that him HOLDING the black hole ignored all of those same physics. I asked you multiple times why he wasn't sucked into the black hole that should have instantly swallowed his hands and entire body the second he wrapped his hands around it and you never answered.
IF his hands somehow negated the gravity of said black hole and all of the associated physics, then yeah, that's amazing, but it makes no sense for that to be an act of pure STRENGTH. Period.
Originally posted by Prof. T.C McAbe
Did you by chance study Astrophysics ? And are you math skills up there? I need a little bit of advice.
I have a M.Sc., but not in the field of astrophysics nor general relativity. I took some undergraduate classes in astrophysics, cosmology, etc. but my specialization is elsewhere. So if you have a highly specific question about astrophysics or cosmology, Astner might indeed have more expertise on the topic. But I do know something about those fields as well.
Originally posted by Diesldude
No one is disputing that Superman grabbed it before it was fully released. But why do you think that mnemon would stop trying to release it from the inside Superman’s hands. Superman is shielding everyone outside not the black hole from the magnetic field.The author is basically saying that everyone is alive because Superman got it a split second before it was fully released.
Once in his hands it became released. The pressure could be from holding the black hole, the pressure could be from the gravitational pull trying to suck the inside of his palm.
We can safely assume that the black hole was released while within Superman’s grip because they had to generate a new magnetic field before Superman tossed it. Why did they have to do this if it wasn’t fully released?
And here it states gravitational force and tells us the type of pressure Superman was feeling.
The pressure that was going to rip his hands was from gravitational forces.
With the magnetic field intact, atom was right next to the blackhole. But the same black hole was putting enough force to rip Superman’s hands. Why and how is this possible if magnetic field was still present and the black hole wasn’t released?
