Current Superman vs Worldbreaker Hulk

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Originally posted by Magnon
You can always ask. 🙂

I have a M.Sc., but not in the field of astrophysics nor general relativity. I took some undergraduate classes in astrophysics, cosmology, etc. but my specialization is elsewhere. So if you have a highly specific question about astrophysics or cosmology, Astner might indeed have more expertise on the topic. But I do know something about those fields as well.


Thank you 🙂.

Originally posted by Magnon
You can always ask. 🙂

I have a M.Sc., but not in the field of astrophysics nor general relativity. I took some undergraduate classes in astrophysics, cosmology, etc. but my specialization is elsewhere. So if you have a highly specific question about astrophysics or cosmology, Astner might indeed have more expertise on the topic. But I do know something about those fields as well.

😂 while we're on the topic of things that the Author confirmed.... remember when you told me it wasn't a micro black hole because it was too large, so none of my arguments about it breaking physics held water?
Author confirmed *I* was right, too.

https://i.imgur.com/eCCM117.jpg

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Why would it matter anyway, if the mass is still present?

If I have a box and carver is in the midst of breaking out of it, whether he has fully emerged from his box or not doesn't matter- he still weighs the same.

If you have a box and I'm breaking out of it, then you can't contain me with pure strength just by clamping a larger box down on me and pressing down on top of it. You can't even hold me down by pressing on every wall. Whatever is holding me has to keep me from breaking THROUGH it, so if you place a weight on every wall of that box and I rip a hole on it, then I still get out

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Why would it matter anyway, if the mass is still present?

If I have a box and carver is in the midst of breaking out of it, whether he has fully emerged from his box or not doesn't matter- he still weighs the same.

this is true, but I the magnetic field was cancelling out the blackholes gravitational pull. Like a counterweight I guess.

Originally posted by AlbertoJohnAvil
If you have a box and I'm breaking out of it, then you can't contain me with pure strength just by clamping a larger box down on me and pressing down on top of it. You can't even hold me down by pressing on every wall. Whatever is holding me has to keep me from breaking THROUGH it, so if you place a weight on every wall of that box and I rip a hole on it, then I still get out
ok so how is that any different from mnemon trying to break the magnetic field from inside Superman’s hands? 😂 you fell for DS’s trap again.

Yeah but I'm still holding carver in his box in my hands. The box is stopping Carv from breaking out, but I'm actually holding the entire thing in my arms and running to the landfill to chuck him in there before he breaks out.

Still a strength feat for me.

Originally posted by Diesldude
ok so how is that any different from mnemon trying to break the magnetic field from inside Superman’s hands? 😂 you fell for DS’s trap again.

Go ahead and tell me *how* he countered that force while breaking physics to do so, if you want to prove it's a strength feat.
You're acting like he was pressing down on an expanding solid object, like a planet, which, yes, I would give that to you as strength.
But he is pressing down on something that by its very nature cannot be touched without it swallowing you. Which means to me his body is able to RESIST that force in order to safely contain it.

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Yeah but I'm still holding carver in his box in my hands. The box is stopping Carv from breaking out, but I'm actually holding the entire thing in my arms and running to the landfill to chuck him in there before he breaks out.

Still a strength feat for me.

mnemon was trying to release the blackhole and fee himself from Superman.

Breaking the magnetic field was easy becuase it was still on his side of Superman’s hands. Once he broke that the next step was to rip Superman’s hands and he failed at that. At this time there was no magnetic field or counter weight.

So Superman was carrying the entire mass and surviving the gravitational pull from the blackhole.

Lol... the attempts.

Originally posted by Diesldude
mnemon was trying to release the blackhole and fee himself from Superman.

Breaking the magnetic field was easy becuase it was still on his side of Superman’s hands. Once he broke that the next step was to rip Superman’s hands and he failed at that. At this time there was no magnetic field or counter weight.

So Superman was carrying the entire mass and surviving the gravitational pull from the blackhole.

Well, I'm convinced. Argument makes perfect sense.

The force field was released from the black hole while in Supermans hand.

Originally posted by carver9
Lol... the attempts.

He succeeded in arguing his case.

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Yeah but I'm still holding carver in his box in my hands. The box is stopping Carv from breaking out, but I'm actually holding the entire thing in my arms and running to the landfill to chuck him in there before he breaks out.

Still a strength feat for me.

What? weight has nothing to do with this.

Originally posted by Diesldude
mnemon was trying to release the blackhole and fee himself from Superman.

Breaking the magnetic field was easy becuase it was still on his side of Superman’s hands. Once he broke that the next step was to rip Superman’s hands and he failed at that. At this time there was no magnetic field or counter weight.

So Superman was carrying the entire mass and surviving the gravitational pull from the blackhole.

Originally posted by cdtm
Well, I'm convinced. Argument makes perfect sense.

The force field was released from the black hole while in Supermans hand.

Black holes don't push. Which is exactly my point. And yet you're trying to tell me that keeping one from expanding is a strength feat. When, according to physics, he is literally already inside of it.
If his hands are somehow negating the gravity of the black hole (smothering it, per the author), then the argument becomes whether or not it's something one feels can be done with strength alone.
You can feel pain trying to resist not getting ripped to shreds inside a gravity well like that of a black hole in your hands but that's not strength.

Originally posted by AlbertoJohnAvil
What? weight has nothing to do with this.

Black holes don't push. Which is exactly my point. And yet you're trying to tell me that keeping one from expanding is a strength feat. When, according to physics, he is literally already inside of it.
If his hands are somehow negating the gravity of the black hole (smothering it, per the author), then the argument becomes whether or not it's something one feels can be done with strength alone.
You can feel pain trying to resist not getting ripped to shreds inside a gravity well like that of a black hole in your hands but that's not strength.

It's a black hole in his hand.

Pretty hard to downplay it.

Micro hole*

Superman said he thought it would rip his hands off. Gravity pulls not expand. The words rip off should tell everyone but Superman fans what's really going on.

Originally posted by Delta1938
Show Gladiator doing that.
Show those chains hauling stars. You accepted that by word of mouth from a liar, something gladiators son in not.

What did he lie about?

Originally posted by AlbertoJohnAvil
What? weight has nothing to do with this.

Black holes don't push. Which is exactly my point. And yet you're trying to tell me that keeping one from expanding is a strength feat. When, according to physics, he is literally already inside of it.
If his hands are somehow negating the gravity of the black hole (smothering it, per the author), then the argument becomes whether or not it's something one feels can be done with strength alone.
You can feel pain trying to resist not getting ripped to shreds inside a gravity well like that of a black hole in your hands but that's not strength.

Black holes PUSH as gravity is a pushing force (space pushes) and not a pulling force.

Originally posted by cdtm
What did he lie about?
Delta wants me to show him Gladiator ripping apart a black hole with his bare hands because gladiators son said he saw him do it. Delta does not believe it because it's not shown on panel. Now on the other hand, a character said Superman broke chains that were used to haul Stars, yeah Delta accepted that because it was Superman. Yet he cannot show the chains hauling a dump truck let alone stars.

Originally posted by h1a8
Black holes PUSH as gravity is a pushing force (space pushes) and not a pulling force.

No. Gravity is an attractive force, not a repelling one.