Can Superman replicate Gladiator's crossing galaxy feat

Started by AlbertoJohnAvil13 pages

Originally posted by -Pr-
First of all, your example is flawed. I said "complex motion". Running around a maze is not the same thing as knitting a sweater or making a sandwich.

Second of all, I said "any complex motion". That applies to doing things that aren't violent, but on this forum, they're still evidence of combat speed. And we both know if this was any Marvel character you wouldn't have the tiniest problem with it.

Use better logic and examples instead of being so broken. Seriously, it's getting tiring dealing with someone that never acts in good faith.

Superman has dynamic strength, just like a bunch of other characters. The comics have said so multiple times. People saying he doesn't are just biased haters.

What is this? you say that my example of Flash in the maze made no sense... but I was following your logic:

Originally posted by -Pr-
I don't recall disputing that.

Yes, you are wrong. Any complex motion that isn't just moving in a straight line, is combat speed. End of.

"Any complex motion that isn't just moving in a straight line, is combat speed."

A maze is moving in other than a straight line, so we agree that YOUR definition is flawed.

Originally posted by -Pr-
First of all, your example is flawed. I said "complex motion". Running around a maze is not the same thing as knitting a sweater or making a sandwich.

Second of all, I said "any complex motion". That applies to doing things that aren't violent, but on this forum, they're still evidence of combat speed. And we both know if this was any Marvel character you wouldn't have the tiniest problem with it.

Use better logic and examples instead of being so broken. Seriously, it's getting tiring dealing with someone that never acts in good faith.

Superman has dynamic strength, just like a bunch of other characters. The comics have said so multiple times. People saying he doesn't are just biased haters.

They sure are.

Originally posted by Diesldude
it takes longer for albie to throw a punch than to identify the right jigsaw puzzle piece, locate it from a bunch of others, pick it up and then insert in the right spot. We all know albie is slow so he might never find the right piece without help. That means he never landed a punch.

Now I wonder how often he got beaten up in a fight.

Originally posted by Prof. T.C McAbe
Hey, if flash dodges a bullet that someone fires at him it's combat reflex because the bullet is used in a combat situation. However, if someone fires bullets into the desert, flash runs, collects them and puts them back in the magazine in exact the same order they left it, it can't be used as a combat feat because it was a non combat situation. dur

Originally posted by -Pr-
First of all, your example is flawed. I said "complex motion". Running around a maze is not the same thing as knitting a sweater or making a sandwich.

Second of all, I said "any complex motion". That applies to doing things that aren't violent, but on this forum, they're still evidence of combat speed. And we both know if this was any Marvel character you wouldn't have the tiniest problem with it.

Use better logic and examples instead of being so broken. Seriously, it's getting tiring dealing with someone that never acts in good faith.

Superman has dynamic strength, just like a bunch of other characters. The comics have said so multiple times. People saying he doesn't are just biased haters.

If someone fires a bullet at Flash IN COMBAT then yeah, combat feat. That's fine. So WHO WAS SUPERMAN FIGHTING in the moon scan? He was rebuilding a moon at his own pace, with no threats, no ANYTHING to react to except what he was doing. Not a combat feat.
Flash studying up on construction and building a burnt out building in seconds is an amazing speed feat, just like Superman rebuilding that moon, but Flash's feat isn't combat related, and neither is Superman's, though both are extremely fast, complicated actions. Speed feats aren't all in straight lines either.

Period.

Originally posted by AlbertoJohnAvil
What is this? you say that my example of Flash in the maze made no sense... but I was following your logic:

"Any complex motion that isn't just moving in a straight line, is combat speed."

A maze is moving in other than a straight line, so we agree that YOUR definition is flawed.

Don't twist my words.

And no, no you weren't.

Moving in a straight line, turning, then moving in a straight line again, is more travel speed than combat speed. Sure, it depends on the size of the maze, but he's still performing a relatively simply action ie. running.

He's not even using his hands, or lifting his feet from the ground for anything other than taking steps.

Originally posted by AlbertoJohnAvil
If someone fires a bullet at Flash IN COMBAT then yeah, combat feat. That's fine. So WHO WAS SUPERMAN FIGHTING in the moon scan? He was rebuilding a moon at his own pace, with no threats, no ANYTHING to react to except what he was doing. Not a combat feat.
Flash studying up on construction and building a burnt out building in seconds is an amazing speed feat, just like Superman rebuilding that moon, but Flash's feat isn't combat related, and neither is Superman's, though both are extremely fast, complicated actions. Speed feats aren't all in straight lines either.

Period.

Quan, you are wrong, as always, period.

Originally posted by AlbertoJohnAvil
If someone fires a bullet at Flash IN COMBAT then yeah, combat feat. That's fine. So WHO WAS SUPERMAN FIGHTING in the moon scan? He was rebuilding a moon at his own pace, with no threats, no ANYTHING to react to except what he was doing. Not a combat feat.
Flash studying up on construction and building a burnt out building in seconds is an amazing speed feat, just like Superman rebuilding that moon, but Flash's feat isn't combat related, and neither is Superman's, though both are extremely fast, complicated actions. Speed feats aren't all in straight lines either.

Period.

You know what? If you're going to be intentionally that ****ing dense about it, and keep ruining threads, then I have nothing more to say. I've explained the concept ad nauseum, and your constant refusal to even listen, never mind your snide little condescending attitude, which isn't remotely warranted, just pushed you right over the edge.

Originally posted by AlbertoJohnAvil
If someone fires a bullet at Flash IN COMBAT then yeah, combat feat. That's fine. So WHO WAS SUPERMAN FIGHTING in the moon scan? He was rebuilding a moon at his own pace, with no threats, no ANYTHING to react to except what he was doing. Not a combat feat.
Flash studying up on construction and building a burnt out building in seconds is an amazing speed feat, just like Superman rebuilding that moon, but Flash's feat isn't combat related, and neither is Superman's, though both are extremely fast, complicated actions. Speed feats aren't all in straight lines either.

Period.

Don’t finish a sentence with period, it tends to make one sound and look ridiculous.

And claiming rebuilding the moon is not a combat feat, is one of the dumbest shits I’ve heard yet.

About time.

Anyway, with the thread? I don't see why he can't.

Oh no.

Anyway.

Of course he can. And has. He has flown from one end of the universe to the other multiple times. And space sectors in a few panels. Straight line flying like this isn't beyond generic space characters like Green Lanterns and whatnot.

Originally posted by Diesldude
. So bumping for JBL. How many suns did Superman fly through to get to WF?
Show where it states that Superman flew billions/trillions of light years to reach WF. It CLEARLY states that it take light hours to catch up with him. How did you get billions and trillions of light year out of that?? And NO, Superman cannot cross galaxy in the blink of that God's eye.

Originally posted by JBL
Show where it states that Superman flew billions/trillions of light years to reach WF. It CLEARLY states that it take light hours to catch up with him. How did you get billions and trillions of light year out of that?? And NO, Superman cannot cross galaxy in the blink of that God's eye.
I disagree based on the evidence posted in this thread by those arguing with you.

Originally posted by Prof. T.C McAbe
It's impossible that it was the weight of a star but we accept the impossibility because it's comics not science. Only hateful trolls like Quan make up their mind and won't accept any other possibility except that their object of hate has to be discredited and lowballed by any means possible. And you don't feed trolls, just ignore them and laugh about their impotence and incompetence.
I was more pointing out how he chain feat cant be counted because its a claim, but we're supposed to take a Marvel characters take as gospel.

To be honest, its not really quantifiably the weight of a star. The fortress of solitude key is 'forged from a star' and could be said to have 'weight of a star' also, but we're not given quantifiable numbers for Hulks feat, we just accept that it's an amazing feat of strength. Because it is. A lot of top end strength and speed feats are tough to quantify. And that is written that way on purpose.

Originally posted by Philosophía
Oh no.

Anyway.

Of course he can. And has. He has flown from one end of the universe to the other multiple times. And space sectors in a few panels. Straight line flying like this isn't beyond generic space characters like Green Lanterns and whatnot.

Originally posted by Juntai
I was more pointing out how he chain feat cant be counted because its a claim, but we're supposed to take a Marvel characters take as gospel.

To be honest, its not really quantifiably the weight of a star. The fortress of solitude key is 'forged from a star' and could be said to have 'weight of a star' also, but we're not given quantifiable numbers for Hulks feat, we just accept that it's an amazing feat of strength. Because it is. A lot of top end strength and speed feats are tough to quantify. And that is written that way on purpose.


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Originally posted by JBL
Show where it states that Superman flew billions/trillions of light years to reach WF. It CLEARLY states that it take light hours to catch up with him. How did you get billions and trillions of light year out of that?? And NO, Superman cannot cross galaxy in the blink of that God's eye.
so you won’t answer how many suns did Superman fly through?

It doesn't matter how many suns he flew through. When the narration said he is moving faster than he ever has and it will take light hours for catch up with him, he had already been through those suns. Now of course you don't realize that his fastest speed was after he came out of those suns. Unless you claim he slowed down??? Please don't say that because the first thing you will be hit with is the part of him at his fastest AFTER he came out of those suns. By the way, he was heavily amped, that eliminates this feat anyway.👍 And what is this crap about that guardian not blinking and gladiator not crossing galaxies during that blink when it is clearly shown in writing. Let me guess who is trying to low-ball this feat.. Superman fans maybe? Smh

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Originally posted by JBL
It doesn't matter how many suns he flew through. When the narration said he is moving faster than he ever has and it will take light hours for catch up with him, he had already been through those suns. Now of course you don't realize that his fastest speed was after he came out of those suns. Unless you claim he slowed down??? Please don't say that because the first thing you will be hit with is the part of him at his fastest AFTER he came out of those suns. By the way, he was heavily amped, that eliminates this feat anyway.👍 And what is this crap about that guardian not blinking and gladiator not crossing galaxies during that blink when it is clearly shown in writing. Let me guess who is trying to low-ball this feat.. Superman fans maybe? Smh

Why are you even talking about that feat?
If Superman has other feats moving at millions, billions, etc times the speed of light then what does that feat matter?

Originally posted by h1a8
Why are you even talking about that feat?
If Superman has other feats moving at millions, billions, etc times the speed of light then what does that feat matter?
it’s because it was stated that it was the fastest Superman ever went. It was clearly an inaccurate statement but these guys are stuck on it took light hours to catch up.

Originally posted by JBL
It doesn't matter how many suns he flew through. When the narration said he is moving faster than he ever has and it will take light hours for catch up with him, he had already been through those suns. Now of course you don't realize that his fastest speed was after he came out of those suns. Unless you claim he slowed down??? Please don't say that because the first thing you will be hit with is the part of him at his fastest AFTER he came out of those suns. By the way, he was heavily amped, that eliminates this feat anyway.👍 And what is this crap about that guardian not blinking and gladiator not crossing galaxies during that blink when it is clearly shown in writing. Let me guess who is trying to low-ball this feat.. Superman fans maybe? Smh

😂 this worked out even better. So He only went through the first 6 suns.

The point of this isn’t whether Superman was amped but the statement you’re hung on that it took light hours to catch up.

The 2nd nearest star is 4 plus light years away from the sun.

He flew through the six suns in a matter of seconds. So light was years behind not hours. This proves that the statement was inaccurate. 👆