Originally posted by Galan007Ban all Superman threads again, Galan. In 1 month, this place will become peaceful again!
Like Manhattan, WF believed that it was fully possible for Superman to kill him(as he mentioned during his convo with Batman.)So yeah...
You know the forum will be better for it. Use your power for good!
His upper end really isn't fair. Most people are comparing their favorite characters all time feats and most powerful incarnations in the last 50 years to shit Superman does every few issues while consciously operating at a fraction of his strength.
Guys like Hulk range from losing to Captain America in a few punches to world ending, give or take.
Superman ranges from World ending from a jump while nearly dead, to multiversal cosmic beater.
Most people's all time peak is his 'meh'.
You bring up Hulk losing to Cap but Superman got knocked TF by a tractor being thrown on his head and struggled to stop a teenage mutant ninja wannabe turtle the size of of car from falling from cloud height. Almost got killed by Red Cloud, someone who fts are trash, choking him to death. Deathstroke RECENTLY even hurt him. When using low showings, you need to think about his as well because in 15 years, his lows FAR exceeds Hulks and its much worse.
Let's not forget Batman drawing blood from him with a punch.
Originally posted by carver9You misrepresent all of those, but no one is surprised.
You bring up Hulk losing to Cap but Superman got knocked TF by a tractor being thrown on his head and struggled to stop a teenage mutant ninja wannabe turtle the size of of car from falling from cloud height. Almost got killed by Red Cloud, someone who fts are trash, choking him to death. Deathstroke RECENTLY even hurt him. When using low showings, you need to think about his as well because in 15 years, his lows FAR exceeds Hulks and its much worse.Let's not forget Batman drawing blood from him with a punch.
Tractor didn't stop Superman, and it was a sucker shot. Superman made the point he was holding back during the first exchange, and then was just standing trying to talk to him when he shot him in the face and hit him with the tractor. He got back up and was still fighting after that.
Deathstroke didnt stop Superman. He was disoriented from the gravity sheath of the Ikon suit and Deathstroke ran away, knowing he cant stop Superman. In their next encounter, Superman casually punches him through a building and destroys the suit.
Red Cloud didnt stop Superman, surprised him momentarily and he blew her away and took off. Next encounter, defeated her by spinning and blowing, even said he could just blow her into space if he wanted.
0 of those encounters involved Superman being stopped.
Big difference between that and getting punched out by the likes of Cap, Wolverine and Spiderman in a heads up fight.
Originally posted by Juntai
You misrepresent all of those, but no one is surprised.Tractor didn't stop Superman, and it was a sucker shot. Superman made the point he was holding back during the first exchange, and then was just standing trying to talk to him when he shot him in the face and hit him with the tractor. He got back up and was still fighting after that.
Deathstroke didnt stop Superman. He was disoriented from the gravity sheath of the Ikon suit and Deathstroke ran away, knowing he cant stop Superman. In their next encounter, Superman casually punches him through a building and destroys the suit.
Red Cloud didnt stop Superman, surprised him momentarily and he blew her away and took off. Next encounter, defeated her by spinning and blowing, even said he could just blow her into space if he wanted.
0 of those encounters involved Superman being stopped.
Big difference between that and getting punched out by the likes of Cap, Wolverine and Spiderman.
Carter lying. What a shock.
Originally posted by Juntai
You misrepresent all of those, but no one is surprised.Tractor didn't stop Superman, and it was a sucker shot. Superman made the point he was holding back during the first exchange, and then was just standing trying to talk to him when he shot him in the face and hit him with the tractor. He got back up and was still fighting after that.
Deathstroke didnt stop Superman. He was disoriented from the gravity sheath of the Ikon suit and Deathstroke ran away, knowing he cant stop Superman. In their next encounter, Superman casually punches him through a building and destroys the suit.
Red Cloud didnt stop Superman, surprised him momentarily and he blew her away and took off. Next encounter, defeated her by spinning and blowing, even said he could just blow her into space if he wanted.
0 of those encounters involved Superman being stopped.
Big difference between that and getting punched out by the likes of Cap, Wolverine and Spiderman in a heads up fight.
You're funny. Superman was knocked out and didn't show up until a page later. That's considered a ko.
Wtf...it was outright said she could've killed him and their last encounter, he was defenseless and it was said yet again she could kill him. It's funny you THINK you know everything about Superman...
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She let him go there. He was dead until she decided to let him get up and she helped him afterwards.
Which fight are you talking about with Deathstroke? I'm trying not to embarrass you here.
The showings I mentioned are TERRIBLE because in the past FIFTEEN years, Hulk doesn't have anything close to this. Especially being overpowered and outright unable to do anything recently. This is embarrassing and obviously, yet again, you don't know what you're talking about. I can mention more showings, but whats the point. You probably haven't read it.
Originally posted by leonidas
'station' isn't the same thing as personal power--or rather, personal power that can be called upon in a battle.what do you think wf would do in a battle with a full-on pc superman? after all, if superboy prime can tackle darkest knight, what makes you think pc superman can't handle wf? i also think back to superman vs the anti-monitor scene in coie. obviously AM had been weakened, but he was still hugely powerful but again, superman did just fine. we've already seen superman possesses enough power to destroy his anvil. i'd think he could also destroy his hammer if he really went all out. wf is powerful, but superman is as powerful as he needs to be.
and lol at you saying superman LOSES and me defending him. fukcin strange time we live in... 😂
This is just circular reasoning.
Originally posted by Juntai
His upper end really isn't fair. Most people are comparing their favorite characters all time feats and most powerful incarnations in the last 50 years to shit Superman does every few issues while consciously operating at a fraction of his strength.Guys like Hulk range from losing to Captain America in a few punches to world ending, give or take.
Superman ranges from World ending from a jump while nearly dead, to multiversal cosmic beater.
Most people's all time peak is his 'meh'.
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That is why he is the GOAT of comics. Every newcommer wants to compare his favorite character to him.
Originally posted by Juntai
His upper end really isn't fair. Most people are comparing their favorite characters all time feats and most powerful incarnations in the last 50 years to shit Superman does every few issues while consciously operating at a fraction of his strength.Guys like Hulk range from losing to Captain America in a few punches to world ending, give or take.
Superman ranges from World ending from a jump while nearly dead, to multiversal cosmic beater.
Most people's all time peak is his 'meh'.
I understand you and your super scout gang live in this illusion that Supes is a high herald or above, but he isn't. That's the sad REALITY of it all.
Ko'ed by Giant Gorilla who lost to lexcorp lasers pages later
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strains with one megaton
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needs Diana help to stop the JL watchtower and still struggles in the proccess
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Toymaster Robot stomps him
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Ko'ed by a gas pipe explosion at half power
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struggled with an elephant
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Lost to Rogol Zaar who needed a device to destroy a planet in the next issue
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It takes ALL of his strength to move an venus sized planet 13 meters
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Every Marvel herald including Hyperion, Gladiator, shits all over Superman. Stay butthurt.
Originally posted by carver9
You're funny. Superman was knocked out and didn't show up until a page later. That's considered a ko.Wtf...it was outright said she could've killed him and their last encounter, he was defenseless and it was said yet again she could kill him. It's funny you THINK you know everything about Superman...
https://qph.fs.quoracdn.net/main-qimg-e970fa2ad5ecb0cbf0855f90a7566481
https://qph.fs.quoracdn.net/main-qimg-5f3470fb3d8024279d0547958c3ee1b7She let him go there. He was dead until she decided to let him get up and she helped him afterwards.
Which fight are you talking about with Deathstroke? I'm trying not to embarrass you here.
The showings I mentioned are TERRIBLE because in the past FIFTEEN years, Hulk doesn't have anything close to this. Especially being overpowered and outright unable to do anything recently. This is embarrassing and obviously, yet again, you don't know what you're talking about. I can mention more showings, but whats the point. You probably haven't read it.
If you read more, you'd understand that proved about a dozen times he can beat Red Cloud by spinning fast and/or super-breath.
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And she's made out of 'something' that can suffocate anyone, including a kryptonioan who can go through space, stars, etc.
But Superman wasn't stopped in any of these showings.
Stopped is when Hulk runs into meta dudes and gets knocked out heads up.
