Originally posted by SquallX
Why do people think that Prime won’t just remove all the oxygen from the field by A. Using his super speed, or B. Heat up the environment until all the oxygen is gone?Or since this is Prime, he just destroys the planet and be done with it.
Its interesting that his limited power set means he has to resort to indirect attacks isnt it? 🙂
Now what if he was dealing with intangible entities who didnt need to breathe?
Interesting 🙂
Originally posted by leonidasremember smashing planets is something he has done before.
it's an interesting question. at just standard levels, i don't think he'd be able to punch her. i think she would likely phase him into the ground, but that wouldn't do much more than pi$$ him off. he'd break free then have to do some fanfic attack to hit her. could be some sort of energy attack maybe? or maybe his rage fuels a punch that can hit or affect her somehow? not sure tbh, unless he has a feat of hitting someone/something intangible? and not just dimensional walls...
Originally posted by GalacticStorm
Given the nature of her power its your burden of responsibility to prove that cold affects her.But Leo seems to think Iceman managed it, but then his temperature manipulation is atomic level so is a lot more intricate than a macro cold breath attack in her nearby vicinity lol
Sonics could effect her and light for sure. She can breathe through solid matter now. Her need to hold her breath whilst phasing was phased out 😱
She can't breathe in space, for example.
Originally posted by DarkSaint85
She can't breathe in space, for example.
Cool. So Prime would basically have to smash the planet or as Squall said burn up the atmosphere.
Theres no doubt that Prime would win in this scenario (mine said indestructible planet) but it does serve to highlight the limits of his powerset.
Mission accomplished 😉
Originally posted by GalacticStormAhh GS, he simply alters reality. He really has no limitations he is a walking plot device. He has whatever powers he needs for the plot, you want reality warped use Prime, You want a guy to survive a universal blast use prime. Escape the speed force Prime. Absorb a guardian Prime, turn Myx into a ***** or defeat DK use Prime. He is a no limits fallacy.
Cool. So Prime would basically have to smash the planet or as Squall said burn up the atmosphere.Theres no doubt that Prime would win in this scenario (mine said indestructible planet) but it does serve to highlight the limits of his powerset.
Mission accomplished 😉
Originally posted by Old Man Whirly!
Ahh GS, he simply alters reality. He really has no limitations he is a walking plot device. He has whatever powers he needs for the plot, you want reality warped use Prime, You want a guy to survive a universal blast use prime. Escape the speed force Prime. Absorb a guardian Prime, turn Myx into a ***** or defeat DK use Prime. He is a no limits fallacy.
He changes reality by punching things. On top of that he doesnt know how he changes reality, he has no control over its effects, he doesnt know what triggers it.
It has limited offensive capability in general and definitely against someone who his punches cant connect with.
Furthermore his punches connected with Darkest Knight and SBP ended up dead 😬
Originally posted by Bentley
I also don't believe Prime would bust the atmosphere as a tactical movement, maybe by accident lolAlso: I thought Kitty phased a giant space bullet and was in space for months, how did she breath there? Real question
She did, and the whole breathing thing, iirc, is as inconsistent post-Claremont as any other X-Men character's powers. Hell, just a while back we were arguing about whether she would still have that power boost she got.
Stilt would be better caught up with it than me though, so he'd have more insights as to whether her breathing issues are still a thing.
Originally posted by DarkSaint85
When has she shrugged off cold?Plus sonics, light still affects her (Super skrull blinded her), and last I saw when she was with Star-Lord, she still needed to breathe...
The breathing thing kind of went out the window during her Astonishing arc, you know, flying a phased alien bullet into space for years. Then she came back and couldn't un-phase. I find she can stay phased as long as she pleases in X-Books over the last decade and a half, the breathing only showing up in crossover material for plot reasons.
Sonics work IIRC. Only thing that comes to mind off the top of my head is her getting downed by a WWH thunderclap, but I feel like I've seen other instances.
As for cold, it stands to reason that she should be immune to all temperatures while phased. She's gone through lava, lasers, Omega Sentinal blasts. Now Bobby is a different story, he has more potential to control her molecules than vice-versa. The vague nonsensical description of her powers has always been that she pushes her molecules through the gaps in matter and (to varying degrees) energy, but any powerful telekinetic, matter manipulator, etc. can just "grab her by the atomic structure." In Bobby's case, should be able to slow them regardless of her phase state.
The fact that we are even debating Kitty of all people can challenge the likes of Prime is laughable.
Prime since he’s been reintroduced has about 3 to 4 bad showings
-Fighting Superboy and Krypto and not outright killing them
-Losing to the titans. Was done because of the New 52
-Losing to Black Adam and Shazam
Originally posted by Konton
The breathing thing kind of went out the window during her Astonishing arc, you know, flying a phased alien bullet into space for years. Then she came back and couldn't un-phase. I find she can stay phased as long as she pleases in X-Books over the last decade and a half, the breathing only showing up in crossover material for plot reasons.Sonics work IIRC. Only thing that comes to mind off the top of my head is her getting downed by a WWH thunderclap, but I feel like I've seen other instances.
As for cold, it stands to reason that she should be immune to all temperatures while phased. She's gone through lava, lasers, Omega Sentinal blasts. Now Bobby is a different story, he has more potential to control her molecules than vice-versa. The vague nonsensical description of her powers has always been that she pushes her molecules through the gaps in matter and (to varying degrees) energy, but any powerful telekinetic, matter manipulator, etc. can just "grab her by the atomic structure." In Bobby's case, should be able to slow them regardless of her phase state.
she's also been in space without trouble--tangentially showing cold can be ineffective, as well as radiation. but yeah, depending on HOW bobby used his powers, he SHOULD be able to affect her though by getting a little exotic. his usual tricks just pass through her though.