Originally posted by GalacticStorm
Forgive me if im wrong (unlikely) but its never been revealed how SBP broke out of the Speed Force. So asserting that it was by "punching" whilst plausible given how hes written isnt actually a canon fact is it? 😕So its the equivalent of referencing Squirrel Girls defeat of Thanos as a way to amp up her in the hierarchy without actually having a referenceable method/power for how it was done.
Furthermore, as for Superboy Prime breaking out of the Phantom Zone, the Phantom Zone has gone through numerous revisions throughout DC continuity with its appearance and demonstrated characteristics varying throughout.
See this very useful site:
https://ifanboy.com/articles/dc-histories-the-phantom-zone/
In Teen Titans v3 issue 32 a Phantom Zone arrow was used to teleport SBP into the Phantom Zone. Said attack left a breachable viewpoint with physical characteristics through which SBP could see back into normal reality and the heroes could see him.
Note that SBP was able to press his fingers against this physical viewpoint:
Through a punch he was then able to shatter it due to its physicality.
SBP is not the only person in DC continuity to be able to breach through such a viewpoint and demonstrate its physicality:
Notice the stretching dimensional membrane as the criminal reaches through
Notice how the struggle between Krypto and the criminals cause the viewpoint to shatter with physicality:
As demonstrated the Phantom Zone technology creates a two-way viewpoint from which both sides can view each other. A viewpoint with physicality that can and has been breached by Kryptonians other than SBP.
SBP breaching it cannot be argued to be an ability unique to him.
Unfortunately for the fans out there its a rather more grounded and boring explanation. Its just down to the Phantom Zone technology and the physical characteristics of the dimensional viewpoint which allowed this brick to punch through.
Case dismissed.
Come again SuperFriends 🙂
So to paraphrase your post back at you, come back when you have actual canon proof, and not your head canon and thread linking 🙂
Originally posted by DarkSaint85
So to paraphrase your post back at you, come back when you have actual canon proof, and not your head canon and thread linking 🙂
Ive just proved conclusively that the Phantom Zone tech creates a viewpoint with demonstrated physicality.
Ive proved conclusively that it can and has been breached by other characters.
Its your burden of responsibility to prove that without that portal viewpoint, if after he was sent to the Phantom Zone the portal just closed behind him and he was out of sight, that he couldve punched his way back.
I'll wait 🙂
Kitty is lighter then air because she can "phase" through it, effectively flying.
I'm making that up, but I just know someone will bring up a bs application.
*One google search later*
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.cbr.com/x-men-shadowcat-kitty-pryde-powers-creative-uses/amp/
In the '80s, a lot of people were walking on sunshine. Kitty Pryde literally did. By manipulating her phasing ability just so, Kitty can pass through (just about) anything. That includes air molecules.If she does it right, Kitty essentially can fly, though for her it's more like tightrope walking without the tightrope. She does this throughout her career, but it especially came in handy that time she inherited the memory and skill of the Ogun and became a deadly ninja assassin.
Well shit.
You'd think she'd drop like a stone, instead of flying up. Or just float in place, if she phases through all physical forces of the universe.
And how does she even breath?
Originally posted by celeyhyga17
Always thought he had to punch something "solid" or "punchable". Not sure how he got out of speed force, but most likely he punched something based on the other times he's escaped a place.
I dont think he just punches air to effect change, be it escaping a dimension or affecting reality.
This!!!
Originally posted by celeyhyga17
Always thought he had to punch something "solid" or "punchable". Not sure how he got out of speed force, but most likely he punched something based on the other times he's escaped a place.
I dont think he just punches air to effect change, be it escaping a dimension or affecting reality.
But only he did was punch and he broke through the 5th dimension
Originally posted by DarkSaint85
All you proved in the scan with SBP was that he could physically press his fingers against it.Which....I mean, we all agreed on that he could physically touch it. That's how he punched out of it.
You also forgot to mention Mxy, I wonder why that was 😂
We all agreed that he could touch it? Please reconcile that with your previous comment "But he broke through the Phantom Zone, which iirc isn't a 'solid' barrier to make a connection with." 😕
As for Mxy. That incident shows that Superboy was responsible for abducting Mxy but never gave confirmation of how. So without knowing how whilst we can theorize, we cant assert a particular method as canon.
But given hes known for punching till he gets what he wants, that would be a believable interpretation. 🙂
Originally posted by celeyhyga17
Always thought he had to punch something "solid" or "punchable". Not sure how he got out of speed force, but most likely he punched something based on the other times he's escaped a place.
I dont think he just punches air to effect change, be it escaping a dimension or affecting reality.
👆
Originally posted by DarkSaint85
But back to the thread at hand. What's stopping SBP from simply....hovering 10m above the ground lol. Kitty would NEVER be able to reach him 😂
🙂
So its confirmed on panel that SBP was able to access the 5th dimension via the Guardian powerup:
😗
Originally posted by GalacticStorm
We all agreed that he could touch it? Please reconcile that with your previous comment [B]"But he broke through the Phantom Zone, which iirc isn't a 'solid' barrier to make a connection with." 😕As for Mxy. That incident shows that Superboy was responsible for abducting Mxy but never gave confirmation of how. So without knowing how whilst we can theorize, we cant assert a particular method as canon.
But given hes known for punching till he gets what he wants, that would be a believable interpretation. 🙂 [/B]
It's easy to reconcile.
Superboy can punch through things which are intangible.
Originally posted by GalacticStorm
https://imgur.com/iRcr4zK🙂
I was hoping someone would post that scan. Little did I know it would be yo-, nah, I assumed it would be you in your eagerness.
If ONLY Superboy used his powers in an exotic fashion, and....blew
😉
Originally posted by DarkSaint85I was hoping someone would post that scan. Little did I know it would be yo-, nah, I assumed it would be you in your eagerness.
If ONLY Superboy used his powers in an exotic fashion, and....blew
😉
Your claim was Kitty cant reach SBP if hes 10metres above her.
You were incorrect.
You dont have the foresight or grasp of the bigger picture to set traps.
The debunking of your assertion had you scrambling around the internet looking up Kittys powers. 😆
Originally posted by DarkSaint85
It's easy to reconcile.Superboy can punch through things which are intangible.
That doesnt reconcile it at all as your point was with regards to the Phantom Zone. I debunked that.
With regards to the 5th dimension that was achieved through his Guardian powerup as stated on panel.
Back to the drawing board 🙂