Originally posted by h1a8Stop lying. Superman explained those mental blocks in his fight with Black Adam. In OWAW, mongul told Superman to not hold back and live. Superman was holding back on his own, mongul had to get the idiot to stop holding back, that's why everyone else was beating the probes except Superman, he wasn't even fighting at their level. He didn't get no stronger, he just stopped holding back and it was enough. You have told this lie for a long time ( Superman dropped his mental blocks and went 2 or more tiers above other high heralds) Yet in OWAW he only equaled the other fighters in OWAW.
Because there was no danger of him or anyone he loves dying.
Remember Superman has mental blocks that prevents him from cutting loose unless hes under great duress. In owaw, Superman learned to remove them through meditation.
Originally posted by JBLThat's crazy.
Stop lying. Superman explained those mental blocks in his fight with Black Adam. In OWAW, mongul told Superman to not hold back and live. Superman was holding back on his own, mongul had to get the idiot to stop holding back, that's why everyone else was beating the probes except Superman, he wasn't even fighting at their level. He didn't get no stronger, he just stopped holding back and it was enough. You have told this lie for a long time ( Superman dropped his mental blocks and went 2 or more tiers above other high heralds) Yet in OWAW he only equaled the other fighters in OWAW.
Originally posted by JBL
Stop lying. Superman explained those mental blocks in his fight with Black Adam. In OWAW, mongul told Superman to not hold back and live. Superman was holding back on his own, mongul had to get the idiot to stop holding back, that's why everyone else was beating the probes except Superman, he wasn't even fighting at their level. He didn't get no stronger, he just stopped holding back and it was enough. You have told this lie for a long time ( Superman dropped his mental blocks and went 2 or more tiers above other high heralds) Yet in OWAW he only equaled the other fighters in OWAW.
Superman is more powerful than every character in the justice league on a daily (holding back).
Why lie and say "everyone else"?
No one in the league was one shotting probes without hax weaponry.
Show me where 2 or more characters besides DD one shotted a probe with a blast or bare hands.
Superman doesn't get stronger. Rather, he gains access to more of his insane power (which is leagues above most).
Originally posted by h1a8That's a flat out lie.
Superman is more powerful than every character in the justice league on a daily (holding back).Why lie and say "everyone else"?
No one in the league was one shotting probes without hax weaponry.Show me where 2 or more characters besides DD one shotted a probe with a blast or bare hands.
Superman doesn't get stronger. Rather, he gains access to more of his insane power (which is leagues above most).
Originally posted by carver9
H1, you're talking out of your booty hole also, Zod and Diana mom one shot Probes.
Russian Zod also broke Superman jaw with one punch, so let’s not leave that context out. That Zod was operating at high level.
Hippolyta was also wearing the armor, Hermès sandals, the gauntlet of Atlas, the shield and sword. All weapons created by Hephaestus.
A holding back Superman was NOT on the level of DD, Zod, WW, or wonder woman mother. Superman while holding back couldn't do squat to those probes. That flat out tell you he was below the rest in strength and power. He could only match Zod and the rest when he stopped holding back. He didn't get no stronger or no more powerful, he just used his full strength which was dead equal with the rest of the fighters.
Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Ok, since you seem quite salty about things - let's start from the beginning. And no, I am not moving on from this (and no, I am not reporting either). I am actually debating this in good faith - abhi just insults you, I actually provided scans of Guy's invisible aura. Phildo would Photoshop pictures of your lips onto comics - I am actually sitting down to debate here.Quote the rules which you are basing your argument on. I don't want your interpretations or your own words - I want you to actually quote them.
And then let me know what your interpretation is and how it applies to this thread. Simple.
Originally posted by JBL
A holding back Superman was NOT on the level of DD, Zod, WW, or wonder woman mother. Superman while holding back couldn't do squat to those probes. That flat out tell you he was below the rest in strength and power. He could only match Zod and the rest when he stopped holding back. He didn't get no stronger or no more powerful, he just used his full strength which was dead equal with the rest of the fighters.
Holding back Superman did beat a probe. It just took a lot of effort.
DD >>>> Superman (holding back). So yes Superman was below DD.
WW and her mother used hax weaponry. That's like saying that you >>>>> Jon Jones because you have a gun and he doesn't. Your logic is flawed.
Zod doesn't hold back. Also we don't know how hard it was for him since he did it off panel.
Originally posted by JBLTsk tsk tsk..........
A holding back Superman was NOT on the level of DD, Zod, WW, or wonder woman mother. Superman while holding back couldn't do squat to those probes. That flat out tell you he was below the rest in strength and power. He could only match Zod and the rest when he stopped holding back. He didn't get no stronger or no more powerful, he just used his full strength which was dead equal with the rest of the fighters.