Order by Durability

Started by FrothByte22 pages

Originally posted by h1a8
In summary, Darth is claiming that Kal is stronger than Zod because he snapped his neck.
The conclusion does not follow.

He claims that Kal was stronger because he was on Earth longer.
Well Zod and the other kryptonians have strength feats far beyond the oil rig. Yet he cant explain why is that. He does not accept fiction inconsistency as a possible explanation. It has been shown that a few seconds of sunlight gives kryptonians full power. Clark was powerless on Zods ship and gained full power once he left the ship. Kal was drained completely from a nuke and gained full power as a few seconds in the sun. Kryptonians have greater strength feats than him in MOS.

He claims that "full force" is meant literally and not figuratively when the term makes no sense literally. we all know that heat is needed to melt metal (not force). Stars have heat. Writer intends for the heat of the star to be used to melt metal.

He claims that Thor can resist aircraft bullets when Thor has no feats that are equivalent or greater.

Superman is stronger than Zod because he defeated Zod in combat. It's not like he defeated him via great skill no? Or do you think that was sheer luck?

And you keep harping on Thor not having feats of resisting aircraft bullets when you yourself have provided zero feats of Zod resisting aircraft bullets or any sort of piercing attack.

Originally posted by FrothByte
Superman is stronger than Zod because he defeated Zod in combat. It's not like he defeated him via great skill no? Or do you think that was sheer luck?

And you keep harping on Thor not having feats of resisting aircraft bullets when you yourself have provided zero feats of Zod resisting aircraft bullets or any sort of piercing attack.

Being stronger does not logically follow from winning in combat.
Zod wasn't particularly skilled (whats shown >>>> speculation). They both hit each other about equally (Kal probably struck Zod more).

Zod is physically equal or greater than Kal who has resisted aircraft bullets.

Originally posted by h1a8

Zod is physically equal or greater than Kal who has resisted aircraft bullets.

Hilarious how this logic works for Zod, but not for Thor.

Originally posted by Darth Thor
Hilarious how this logic works for Zod, but not for Thor.
Logic does work for Thor. Thor is resistant to the same bullets Loki is.
Aircraft bullets he is not though.

Originally posted by h1a8
Logic does work for Thor. Thor is resistant to the same bullets Loki is.
Aircraft bullets he is not though.

Ironman has tanked aircraft bullets before, and Thor is demonstrably tougher than Ironman.

Originally posted by h1a8

Aircraft bullets he is not though.

Why do you continually insist on lying ?

Originally posted by FrothByte
Ironman has tanked aircraft bullets before, and Thor is demonstrably tougher than Ironman.

Not to mention if Zod gets to be physically =/> Kal despite losing to him, then Thor is physically =/> Hulk.

I mean At least Thor has never lost to the Hulk.

Originally posted by h1a8
Aircraft bullets he is not though.

Provide examples of Thor being injured by aircraft bullets.

Originally posted by FrothByte
Ironman has tanked aircraft bullets before, and Thor is demonstrably tougher than Ironman.

No he didn't. They created bullet holes in him.

Originally posted by Silent Master
Provide examples of Thor being injured by aircraft bullets.

Why?

Originally posted by Darth Thor
Why do you continually insist on lying ?

Not to mention if Zod gets to be physically =/> Kal despite losing to him, then Thor is physically =/> Hulk.

I mean At least Thor has never lost to the Hulk.

Correct. Zod >= Superman physically while still losing.
No fallacy there.

Originally posted by h1a8
No he didn't. They created bullet holes in him.

It still protected TS. And think you missed the part where Froth explains that Thor is demonstrably TOUGHER than IM. Ergo he would be fully protected against the same bullets.

Does show how ridiculous your logic is though, that both IM and Hulk can all take aircarft bullets, but for some unknown reason Thor can't.

Yet Zod can.

Ridiculous bias.

Originally posted by h1a8

Correct. Zod >= Superman physically while still losing.
No fallacy there.

Cool. Thor >/= Hulk physically. Whilst NOT Losing.

Ergo Thor is also completely bullet proof.

/Conversation.

Originally posted by h1a8
Why?

To back up your claim with actual proof, rather than your massively biased opinion.

Originally posted by Silent Master
To back up your claim with actual proof, rather than your massively biased opinion.

He's not even claimed it as an opinion. He's stated it as some sort of fact.

Originally posted by h1a8
Being stronger does not logically follow from winning in combat.
Zod wasn't particularly skilled (whats shown >>>> speculation). They both hit each other about equally (Kal probably struck Zod more).

Zod is physically equal or greater than Kal who has resisted aircraft bullets.

Huh

Originally posted by Silent Master
To back up your claim with actual proof, rather than your massively biased opinion.

Its not necessary to prove that special attribute. A negative is always true unless proven otherwise.

Originally posted by carver9
Huh

Properly ask a question Carv.

Originally posted by h1a8
Its not necessary to prove that special attribute. A negative is always true unless proven otherwise.

Correction, it's always necessary to prove a special attribute. you're claiming that Thor is somehow weak against bullets, despite him withstanding force far greater than they hit with.

Originally posted by Silent Master
Correction, it's always necessary to prove a special attribute. you're claiming that Thor is somehow weak against bullets, despite him withstanding force far greater than they hit with.

If Thor withstood greater pressures (not forces) than that of a aircraft bullet then he most certainly can withstand aircraft bullets.

Remember, it's pressure that cuts and penetrate, not force.

Thanks for admitting Thor can withstand the bullets

Originally posted by Silent Master
Thanks for admitting Thor cannot withstand aircraft bullets

No problem.

Originally posted by h1a8
No problem.

Then neither is Zod. You cant have it both ways h1.

Either we judge by combatants their peers or we dont. But you dont get to do that only for Zod.

This is why people get frustrated with you and why no one wants a lengthy debate with you.. Your lack of objectivity and bias in favour of DC characters is just too blatant.

Originally posted by h1a8
You're right, I let my bias blind me to the truth

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