Order by Durability

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Originally posted by Darth Thor
Then neither is Zod. You cant have it both ways h1.

Either we judge by combatants their peers or we dont. But you dont get to do that only for Zod.

This is why people get frustrated with you and why no one wants a lengthy debate with you.. Your lack of objectivity and bias in favour of DC characters is just too blatant.

Loki didn't show to be aircraft bullet resistant though.
So why does Thor get to be?

Originally posted by h1a8
Loki didn't show to be aircraft bullet resistant though.
So why does Thor get to be?

Both Iron Man and Hulk did.

Originally posted by Darth Thor
Both Iron Man and Hulk did.
Iron Man didn't. He had bullet holes from them. And that was a more durable iron man than later versions.

Thor is not Hulk's equal or superior in strength.

Originally posted by h1a8
Iron Man didn't. He had bullet holes from them.

So ? Are you arguing that Thor can take the bullets but might have small cuts ?

Originally posted by h1a8
And that was a more durable iron man than later versions.

Don't make things up. Thor fought that same armour enhanced in power, and was crushing it.

Originally posted by h1a8
Thor is not Hulk's equal or superior in strength.

Then Zod isn't Kal's equal. YOu can't have it both ways.

You've based it on striking power when Thor has actually hit Hulk futher, and taken more hits from him.

So quit the double standards and start being consistent and objective for once in your life.

This blatant DC Bias makes you more of a propogandist than a debater.

Originally posted by h1a8
Iron Man didn't. He had bullet holes from them. And that was a more durable iron man than later versions.

Thor is not Hulk's equal or superior in strength.

Please post the scene where IM had bullet holes from jet fire.

Zod isn't Superman either but that doesn't stop you from making Zod bulletproof. Also, the Superman that fought Zod was not as durable as latter versions.

Strength isn't what determines whether you can tank bullets or not.

Originally posted by FrothByte
Please post the scene where IM had bullet holes from jet fire.

He means the scene in IM1 where Pepper finds TS taking the armour off and says "are those bullet holes"

Not the exact line but something to that effect.

Originally posted by FrothByte
Please post the scene where IM had bullet holes from jet fire.

Zod isn't Superman either but that doesn't stop you from making Zod bulletproof. Also, the Superman that fought Zod was not as durable as latter versions.

Strength isn't what determines whether you can tank bullets or not.

Pepper stated they were bullet holes in him.
Zod => Superman while being of the same species. So he is just as durable.

Superman being more powerful later has nothing to do with his durability in MOS (aircraft bullet resistant). In BvS, Superman wasnt shown or stated to be more powerful.

Originally posted by Darth Thor
So ? Are you arguing that Thor can take the bullets but might have small cuts ?

Don't make things up. Thor fought that same armour enhanced in power, and was crushing it.

Then Zod isn't Kal's equal. YOu can't have it both ways.

You've based it on striking power when Thor has actually hit Hulk futher, and taken more hits from him.

So quit the double standards and start being consistent and objective for once in your life.

This blatant DC Bias makes you more of a propogandist than a debater.

Im arguing that aircraft bullets will penetrate him (the amount is irrelevant since they cant penetrate Zod at all).

I didn't argue against the logic that Thor > IM.
I argued the logic that IM resisted aircraft bullets.

Zod is slightly Kals superior.

Hulk was shown stronger than Thor in a contest of strength. Plus Hulk would have beat Thor into a deep sleep if it wasn't for the lightning.
The clear writer's intent was that Hulk > Thor physically.
Thor is more skilled and more versatile (lightning).

Originally posted by h1a8
Im arguing that aircraft bullets will penetrate him (the amount is irrelevant since they cant penetrate Zod at all).

I didn't argue against the logic that Thor > IM.
I argued the logic that IM resisted aircraft bullets.

Except Thor >>> IM, so there's no reason to believe those bullets would do any damage to Thor. And we know FOR SURE they won't damage him in any serious way.

Originally posted by h1a8
Zod is slightly Kals superior.

Despite physically losing to him, yeah sure.

Originally posted by h1a8
Hulk was shown stronger than Thor in a contest of strength. Plus Hulk would have beat Thor into a deep sleep if it wasn't for the lightning.
The clear writer's intent was that Hulk > Thor physically.
Thor is more skilled and more versatile (lightning).

Thor almost put Hulk in a deep sleep with his first strike. Whilst HUlk relentlessly pounded and pounded and pounded on Thor without managing to KO him. Ergo Thor is easily Hulk's physical rival.

Your bias is ridiculous, and your arguments can not be taken seriously.

Originally posted by h1a8
Pepper stated they were bullet holes in him.
Zod => Superman while being of the same species. So he is just as durable.

Superman being more powerful later has nothing to do with his durability in MOS (aircraft bullet resistant). In BvS, Superman wasnt shown or stated to be more powerful.

Ironman already took on multiple kinds of artillery fire before Pepper checked on him, including tank rounds. Prove that it was jet fire that puncture holes in him.

Being of the same species doesn't mean they share exactly the same traits. I'm the same species as Mike Tyson, doesn't mean I can take a punch as well as he can.

Besides, Zod is obviously not equal or greater to Superman, on account of him dying at the hands of Superman.

If you want to just take Superman's durability at face value in MOS then he gets knocked out by a falling oil rig. That makes Superman's blunt trauma durability far less than Thor's.

You'll notice that h1 doesn't actually provide proof, he just restates his massively bias opinion and claims it's proof.

Originally posted by Darth Thor
Except Thor >>> IM, so there's no reason to believe those bullets would do any damage to Thor. And we know FOR SURE they won't damage him in any serious way.

1 inch plate steel >>>>>>>>>> human flesh.
Aircraft bullets can go through human flesh.
Does that mean they cant go through 1 inch steel plate?
Faulty logic by you.

You can't say Thor can resist something just because IM couldn't. That's stupid.


Despite physically losing to him, yeah sure.

Correct. Now you getting it.


Thor almost put Hulk in a deep sleep with his first strike. Whilst HUlk relentlessly pounded and pounded and pounded on Thor without managing to KO him. Ergo Thor is easily Hulk's physical rival.

Your bias is ridiculous, and your arguments can not be taken seriously.


Thor used a weapon. But thats irrelevant to my point.
Hulk won in a contest of strength. Writer's intent was Hulk is stronger.
Thats why Thor used Mjolnir to fight Hulk on the helicarrier.

Originally posted by FrothByte
Ironman already took on multiple kinds of artillery fire before Pepper checked on him, including tank rounds. Prove that it was jet fire that puncture holes in him.

IM was hit with 1 tank round while he was high in the air.
Pepper stated "bullet holes" as in plural.
If the handguns put holes on IM then aircraft bullets would do worst.

If you want to troll and say that Pepper was lying and the writer was tricking the audience then just say so. Ill stop arguing with you since you are a troll.


Being of the same species doesn't mean they share exactly the same traits. I'm the same species as Mike Tyson, doesn't mean I can take a punch as well as he can.

Besides, Zod is obviously not equal or greater to Superman, on account of him dying at the hands of Superman.


You are a terrible debater. I said multiple things that add up to a single conclusion. You pick 1 of them and argue that it alone doesn't add up to the conclusion. Whats that called? Strawman?

Anyway, I stated that Zod is equal or slightly stronger (showings and intent) and took punches equally well then he is just as durable. I threw in same species as a complement to the argument (not as a stand alone).

If you want to just take Superman's durability at face value in MOS then he gets knocked out by a falling oil rig. That makes Superman's blunt trauma durability far less than Thor's.

We use the best feats for a character, not the worst. Like you and others push on Thors star feat, Hulks leviathan feat, etc.

Originally posted by Darth Thor
Except Thor >>> IM, so there's no reason to believe those bullets would do any damage to Thor. And we know FOR SURE they won't damage him in any serious way.

Weaker Asgardians are bullet proof, so is Loki, a runt frost giant magicked to look different. Despite that, we know Thor has taken more and not taken visible damage.

Originally posted by Robtard
Weaker Asgardians are bullet proof, so is Loki, a runt frost giant magicked to look different. Despite that, we know Thor has taken more and not taken visible damage.

Lol we not talking about bullets in general. Thor is definitely resistant against certain type of bullets (handguns and the weapons that were used on Loki). We are talking about aircraft bullets (HUGE DIFFERENCE).

Your trolling made you pretend to not read my second comment, Thor has tanked far greater than aircraft bullets 👆

You'll notice that h1 still hasn't provided any proof that Thor is vulnerable to aircraft bullets.

Originally posted by Robtard
Your trolling made you pretend to not read my second comment, Thor has tanked far greater than aircraft bullets 👆

Prove it.

P. S. Taking more than handgun bullets does not imply one can tank aircraft bullets. So your statement still had nothing to do with aircraft bullets.

Already have

Originally posted by Robtard
The lowballing of Thor here is just silly trolling, Thor's feats speak for themselves:

Survived the exploding Bifrost without injury, was at ground zero

Survived the explosion at Sokovia without injury, was at ground zero

Tanked the "full force of a star" for couple minutes

Originally posted by Robtard
Already have

Bifrost and Sokovia was weak. The shrapnel moved slower than actual bullets.

The star feat is an apples to oranges comparison. Resisting heat and radiation doesn't translate to resistance against aircraft bullets or being stabbed or punched in the face.