Originally posted by carver9
You've never said that. Lol. Scans of Firelord sensing energy? Is this what you are asking? Glad we agree Superman isn't too fast. Now we can move on.Also, rules says more than one, not just one punch. Speak with the mods.
No no, not sensing energy - I too have that respect thread open lol, I know he can sense EM energy.
I want scans of him draining a super fast opponent fast enough to take him out of the fight as he's fighting him. We don't agree Superman is too fast lol.
That is what I'm asking. Didn't see it in the respect thread.
Ok, two punches, lol. But aren't you the one who asked for things to be kept to this thread? Stay on topic Care Bear 😂
Damn Carter using it an example of Superman purposely going slow against him?
I can do 30mph on my bicycle pretty much on demand. When I ride with my daughter, I go at her speed. She can hit 15mph but we ride around 10-12mph. So when I’m coasting slow to match her pace and then she decides to speed up to the end of the block, catches me guard and wins, does that make her faster than me? Or her $500 bike faster than my $3k bike? I don’t think so. Superman was choosing to go at a certain speed and had underestimated his opponent. Carter like to bring up stuff without context because he and context don’t get along.
Originally posted by DarkSaint85
No no, not sensing energy - I too have that respect thread open lol, I know he can sense EM energy.I want scans of him draining a super fast opponent fast enough to take him out of the fight as he's fighting him. We don't agree Superman is too fast lol.
That is what I'm asking. Didn't see it in the respect thread.
Ok, two punches, lol. But aren't you the one who asked for things to be kept to this thread? Stay on topic Care Bear 😂
Per forum rules, Firelord will tag him. I don't understand why I am being called care bear, but ok.
Originally posted by carver9
Per forum rules, Firelord will tag him. I don't understand why I am being called care bear, but ok.
Because you cling to things - Hulk isn't even in this thread 😂 nor was Doomsday. Hence, Care Bear.
Firelord can tag him? Combat speed scans, please.
All you have is that he can...sense Superman's EM energy.
I mean.....that's great, I guess, if Superman were hiding lol. I mean, Alfred/Jarvis can also sense Superman, by using their eyes 😂 I am not sure what you are trying to achieve here.
I mean, please tell me you are not trying to argue powersets are you? What is your point with Firelord sensing his EM energy?
Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Because you cling to things - Hulk isn't even in this thread 😂 nor was Doomsday. Hence, Care Bear.Firelord can tag him? Combat speed scans, please.
All you have is that he can...sense Superman's EM energy.
I mean.....that's great, I guess, if Superman were hiding lol. I mean, Alfred/Jarvis can also sense Superman, by using their eyes 😂 I am not sure what you are trying to achieve here.
I mean, please tell me you are not trying to argue powersets are you? What is your point with Firelord sensing his EM energy?
Hulk is an example, lol. I'm guessing you felt they should've wrote all of the characters in that sentence. Why did they mention Doomsday? In that sentence in the rules, why can I swap Doomsday with Darkseid and Hulk with Juggernaut? I think that sentence is as basic as it can get.
What im saying is, Firelord will immediately know Superman is a solar battery and attack accordingly and will hit him. Don't know why you think Superman fights like a DBZ character. He's in character and he will get hit as mentioned in the forum rules.
Originally posted by carver9
Hulk is an example, lol. I'm guessing you felt they should've wrote all of the characters in that sentence. Why did they mention Doomsday? In that sentence in the rules, why can I swap Doomsday with Darkseid and Hulk with Juggernaut? I think that sentence is as basic as it can get.What im saying is, Firelord will immediately know Superman is a solar battery and attack accordingly and will hit him. Don't know why you think Superman fights like a DBZ character. He's in character and he will get hit as mentioned in the forum rules.
I never said he can't be tagged. I've said he can be tagged by Hulk (as an example), lol.
But I am calling you Care Bear because YOU mentioned Doomsday from another thread on page 1. Let it go 😂
Scans of Firelord's combat speed, please. This is like the 3rd time I have been asking.
Getting hit is fine. But he won't lose the fight.
Originally posted by Old Man Whirly!
nobody is a bigger Superman fan than me, but fireworks can hit multiple travelling spaceships in flight. Even if they are just in orbit, that's faster than Spiderman.
He's not serious about Spiderman. He wants me to discredit the showing and I'm not. It's just a showing that I have to add in with his highs and medium to depict his power level. At the end of the day, its a high showing for Spiderman.
Originally posted by carver9
Why do I need to post speed fts for FL?
Combat speed feats.
Because you are using forum rules, yes?
The Flash/Relevant Character X will use, at a bare minimum, the least amount of speed/Relevant Power, that he is capable of using under average/normal circumstances, required to not lose the fight, or get so badly injured that it will most-likely cost him the fight. Every superhero or supervillain has a minimum amount of effort and competence that they will utilise going in to a fight.
Match starts.
Firelord senses Superman's EM energy. Then...what? Throws a punch/blast at Superman? Does it hit Superman? This is where your combat speed scans come in. Are you assuming Superman just stands there and doesn't attack? He will attack as well. Your combat speed feats will then be useful in determining if he avoids the hits.
He tags Superman. Does it OHKO him? Scans of Firelord doing similar.
Firelord doesn't go all out in his first punches/blasts. As he doesn't, then he would need to hit Superman some more times. By which time, your combat scan feats will then be useful - because after the initial hit (assuming he gets it to connect) Superman will know he is pretty powerful, and will fight accordingly.
I find it hilarious, though, that you are simultaneously acknowledging that Superman holds back, whilst in the other thread argued he was going to kill Damage 😂
So, 4th time of asking - combat speed feats, please.
Originally posted by carver9
He's not serious about Spiderman. He wants me to discredit the showing and I'm not. It's just a showing that I have to add in with his highs and medium to depict his power level. At the end of the day, its a high showing for Spiderman.
OMG...lol you are actually serious, and think Spidey/Firelord is valid.....
Originally posted by -Pr-
Guys, the Firelord stuff is already invalid on the board.
Originally posted by DarkSaint85
OMG...lol you are actually serious, and think Spidey/Firelord is valid.....
Never said valid, I said, we don't ignore it just like we don't ignore Superman taking out World Forger or Diana taking on an abstract in h2h and tying him up with the rope. I would NOT use it as evidence in a forum debate but it did happen and again, based on all of their showings, we find a medium. Lol... just like I'm not going to ignore Mongul vs Superman, Kalibak vs Superman, Darkseid vs Superman, Equus vs Superman, Grundy vs Superman... sh**, the list is long. You want to call Superman entire history of comics PIS. Doesn't work like that. Firelord wins.
Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Combat speed feats.Because you are using forum rules, yes?
Match starts.
Firelord senses Superman's EM energy. Then...what? Throws a punch/blast at Superman? Does it hit Superman? This is where your combat speed scans come in. Are you assuming Superman just stands there and doesn't attack? He will attack as well. Your combat speed feats will then be useful in determining if he avoids the hits.
He tags Superman. Does it OHKO him? Scans of Firelord doing similar.
Firelord doesn't go all out in his first punches/blasts. As he doesn't, then he would need to hit Superman some more times. By which time, your combat scan feats will then be useful - because after the initial hit (assuming he gets it to connect) Superman will know he is pretty powerful, and will fight accordingly.
I find it hilarious, though, that you are simultaneously acknowledging that Superman holds back, whilst in the other thread argued he was going to kill Damage 😂
So, 4th time of asking - combat speed feats, please.
He senses Superman energy and either drains him or just blast him with red solar energy and yes, Red solar energy and kryptonite is a common weakness of Superman.
Originally posted by carver9
Never said valid, I said, we don't ignore it just like we don't ignore Superman taking out World Forger or Diana taking on an abstract in h2h and tying him up with the rope. I would NOT use it as evidence in a forum debate but it did happen and again, based on all of their showings, we find a medium. Lol... just like I'm not going to ignore Mongul vs Superman, Kalibak vs Superman, Darkseid vs Superman, Equus vs Superman, Grundy vs Superman... sh**, the list is long. You want to call Superman entire history of comics PIS. Doesn't work like that. Firelord wins.
It's invalid. We ignore it, lmao.
Back on topic. Firelord senses Superman's EM energy. Throws a punch or 2. Blasts. Superman tanks it, says 'wow you are tough', then beats him up to win.
For Firelord to win, he either OHKO Superman in his first attack (Scans) or he manages to continuously hit Superman until he falls (Scans).
Guess there is nothing here except 'Firelord senses his EM energy ' 😂. I mean, light is EM energy - technically, Jarvis can sense the EM energy (i.e. light) bouncing off Superman, lmao.
Originally posted by DarkSaint85
It's invalid. We ignore it, lmao.Back on topic. Firelord senses Superman's EM energy. Throws a punch or 2. Blasts. Superman tanks it, says 'wow you are tough', then beats him up to win.
For Firelord to win, he either OHKO Superman in his first attack (Scans) or he manages to continuously hit Superman until he falls (Scans).
Guess there is nothing here except 'Firelord senses his EM energy ' 😂. I mean, light is EM energy - technically, Jarvis can sense the EM energy (i.e. light) bouncing off Superman, lmao.
Firelord senses Superman energy, drains him like a prune and heads toward earth with the thought of taking it over.
For Firelord to win, all he needs to do is use Superman power source against him.