Originally posted by Darth ThorCould be due to his gauntlet coupled with his bleeding edge armor. However it did affect him as soon as he wore the gauntlet.
So why was Iron Man able to wield it ?Must be because IM was attempting a much smaller feat.
The Snap didn't affect him in the slightest iirc or at least it wasn't visible.
All in All using the Stones didn't seem to hurt provided you're able to hold them. Take the collector's slave for instance; Immediately she touched the Power stone she was torn apart, Compare that with when the guardians held the stone, As soon as they survived holding it, they easily destroyed Ronan without any problems.
Originally posted by Darth ThorTony had a protective suit on and still died. Hulk and Thanos were still tougher. It makes perfect sense.
That makes sense if we just ignore that Tony also snapped a full infinity gauntlet.
You have to get out of the business of making stuff up that the movie doesn't tell us nor wants us to know.
Originally posted by h1a8
Tony had a protective suit on and still died. Hulk and Thanos were still tougher. It makes perfect sense.You have to get out of the business of making stuff up that the movie doesn't tell us nor wants us to know.
You sound upset. Is the full time trolling taking a toll now?
Is Iron Man stronger than Hulk, yes or no ?
Originally posted by Psychotron
Tony's armor was getting fried too. He just didn't feel the pain right away because his armor isn't part of him. Only Thanos has worn the full IG without damage.
What? Hulk fell to the floor screaming, and after the snap his arm burned up. Tony wasnt harmed until he snapped. So Youre basically claiming IMs armour gives Tony more protection than Hulks strength to wear the gauntlet and attempt a snap. Youre also claiming Hulks arm takes about as much damage as Tonys after the snap.
Originally posted by Darth Thor
What? Hulk fell to the floor screaming, and after the snap his arm burned up. Tony wasnt harmed until he snapped. So Youre basically claiming IMs armour gives Tony more protection than Hulks strength to wear the gauntlet and attempt a snap. Youre also claiming Hulks arm takes about as much damage as Tonys after the snap.
What are you trying to argue here? Are you denying that Tony's armor was getting damaged by just wearing the IG? Because it obviously was. Why would Tony collapse like Hulk did when it was the armor that was taking the majority of the damage, not Tony's body? Even then, it was obviously taxing him given that he could barely say 3 words before snapping. Again, only Thanos has worn the full IG without damage.
Originally posted by Psychotron
What are you trying to argue here? Are you denying that Tony's armor was getting damaged by just wearing the IG? Because it obviously was. Why would Tony collapse like Hulk did when it was the armor that was taking the majority of the damage, not Tony's body? Even then, it was obviously taxing him given that he could barely say 3 words before snapping. Again, only Thanos has worn the full IG without damage.
Why would Tony's armour give better protection than the Gauntlet Glove made out of the same armour? Then it just comes down to whose stronger Hulk or Tony. Heck even compare Hulk's to Iron Man's if you like.
If you agree Tony was struggling then clearly the stones had already penetrated the armour. So I would turn your own question back on you: What are you trying to argue here?
My point is it's much more logical to assume Hulk's snap was far far more difficult because of what he was attempting to achieve with it.
Originally posted by Darth Thor
Why would Tony's armour give better protection than the Gauntlet Glove made out of the same armour? Then it just comes down to whose stronger Hulk or Tony. Heck even compare Hulk's to Iron Man's if you like.If you agree Tony was struggling then clearly the stones had already penetrated the armour. So I would turn your own question back on you: What are you trying to argue here?
My point is it's much more logical to assume Hulk's snap was far far more difficult because of what he was attempting to achieve with it.
You're confused. We're not discussing the snaps here. We're talking about just wearing the gauntlet. Hulk was getting melted and screaming in pain before he snapped, while Thanos was physically unhurt until he snapped. This is despite the fact that the majority of the energy was gamma. Therefore, Thanos is more durable than Hulk.
Originally posted by Psychotron
You're confused. We're not discussing the snaps here. We're talking about just wearing the gauntlet. Hulk was getting melted and screaming in pain before he snapped, while Thanos was physically unhurt until he snapped. This is despite the fact that the majority of the energy was gamma. Therefore, Thanos is more durable than Hulk.
Which must be because of what Hulk was trying to achieve with the IG. Because Tony wore the stones with far far less difficulty.
FYI I agree Thanos is almost certainly stronger and more durable than Hulk (especially Smart Hulk), but that's not the point here. The point is Hulk struggled far too much to wear the Guantlet. Not only compared to Thanos, but also compared to Iron Man.
Originally posted by Darth Thor
Which must be because of what Hulk was trying to achieve with the IG. Because Tony wore the stones with far far less difficulty.FYI I agree Thanos is almost certainly stronger and more durable than Hulk (especially Smart Hulk), but that's not the point here. The point is Hulk struggled far too much to wear the Guantlet. Not only compared to Thanos, but also compared to Iron Man.
That's pure speculation and both snaps are completely unquantifiable. There's no way to know if snapping half the universe to dust required more power than bringing it back or vice versa. All we know is that when Hulk put on the gauntlet he was badly injured, while Thanos was not. Also, Endgame Thanos wore the gauntlet with the intent of destroying the entire universe and re-creating it in his image, so if you're using intent then Endgame Thanos had the grandest one of all, yet he was unharmed when he wore the gauntlet.
Iron man died, while Hulk survived despite Tony having the smallest snap of the three, so that's not correct either.
Originally posted by PsychotronIron man died, while Hulk survived despite Tony having the smallest snap of the three, so that's not correct either.
Yeah but Iron Man didn't scream and fall to the floor just holding the stones.
Your argument was Thanos didn't scream just wearing the gauntlet like Hulk did. Well neither did IM.
Of course Tony died. He's only human under the armour.
Originally posted by Psychotron
That's pure speculation and both snaps are completely unquantifiable. There's no way to know if snapping half the universe to dust required more power than bringing it back or vice versa. All we know is that when Hulk put on the gauntlet he was badly injured, while Thanos was not. Also, Endgame Thanos wore the gauntlet with the intent of destroying the entire universe and re-creating it in his image, so if you're using intent then Endgame Thanos had the grandest one of all, yet he was unharmed when he wore the gauntlet.Iron man died, while Hulk survived despite Tony having the smallest snap of the three, so that's not correct either.
Originally posted by Galan007Well one way to know is to compare how Thanos reacted to both gauntlets which is pretty the same IIRC.
Could it be possible that the Eitri-crafted Gauntlet offered more protection to the wearer than the faux-Gauntlet that Tony whipped up?
Originally posted by Darth Thor
Which must be because of what Hulk was trying to achieve with the IG. Because Tony wore the stones with far far less difficulty.FYI I agree Thanos is almost certainly stronger and more durable than Hulk (especially Smart Hulk), but that's not the point here. The point is Hulk struggled far too much to wear the Guantlet. Not only compared to Thanos, but also compared to Iron Man.
Originally posted by Darth Thor
Yeah but Iron Man didn't scream and fall to the floor just holding the stones.Your argument was Thanos didn't scream just wearing the gauntlet like Hulk did. Well neither did IM.
Of course Tony died. He's only human under the armour.
So? Tony was already on his knees anyway and like I said before, he had the protection of the armor, while Hulk did not.
No.The argument is that Hulk was visibly damaged by the stones. His arm was burned BEFORE he snapped, while Thanos was unhurt. We see Hulk's arm gets fried as soon as he puts the gauntlet on, while Thanos' arm was undamaged until after snapping.
Originally posted by Darth Thor
Yeah ive mentioned that point.Eitris should be much better designed for that purpose.
Originally posted by Galan007
Could it be possible that the Eitri-crafted Gauntlet offered more protection to the wearer than the faux-Gauntlet that Tony whipped up?
Thanos still wore the Iron Man gauntlet without sustaining damage, so there is no basis for that theory.