HOTM Hulk vs. This team of Kryptonians

Originally posted by carver9
The dark Dimension wasn't weakened. Hulk melted beings that is on Savage Hulk level with the shockwaves from a single punch and he melted Fing Fang who was amplified to a point that no on Earth had the power to stop him (per Strange). The planet and the moon along with the entire dimension being destroyed is just a beastly side effect. Why are we not discussing Superman getting amped by MAGICAL, 3D imp suns and not just one, many of them which gave him an unknown amount of power since these are, ya know, suns that were created by MAGIC. I think that is something we should look into since he didn't use an everyday sun to gain a boost to knock over World Forger.

Originally posted by qwertyuiop1998
So according to you these suns were created by magic, yet not magical. IOW normal suns unless you can prove otherwise

And again, WF is not an imp, He doesnt use magic lol.

I dont think the burden of proof is on me since these suns were created in a magical dimension that defies the laws of Superman universe and the suns were created out of thing air from nothing.

The 6th dimension is just a higher plane of existence. It isn't "magical".

That aside, WF created his multiverse in the 6th dimension the same way he created the contents of the 3D multiverse: Hammer + Forge.

Originally posted by carver9
I dont think the burden of proof is on me since these suns were created in a magical dimension that defies the laws of Superman universe and the suns were created out of thing air from nothing.

Originally posted by qwertyuiop1998
6th dimension isnt a magical dimension. 😂

Its>>>>>>>a standard universe. Proof of this is Mxy himself not being able to cross over to that plane and Superman needing imp amps for YEARS to aid him in surviving in that dimension.

Originally posted by carver9
Its>>>>>>>a standard universe. Proof of this is Mxy himself not being able to cross over to that plane and Superman needing imp amps for YEARS to aid him in surviving in that dimension.

And you also have the fact that WF absolutely didnt want Superman to fight/beat him, He even created a universe/pocket universe/galaxy trying to trap Superman in there. So do you have any logical reason for WF somehow deciding to create suns that could amp Superman beyond normal suns do and letting Superman oneshot him?

Originally posted by qwertyuiop1998
It was a universe that WF created to trap Superman. He also created a duplicate of the main multiverse in order to replace the existing one. Hell, the multiverse itself was designed and set in motion in 6th dimension. IOW, 6th dimension can/did contain normal objects in it. Unless you want to argue the multiverse is far durable/powerful than normal multiverse in dc lol

And you also have the fact that WF absolutely didnt want Superman to fight/beat him, He even created a universe/pocket universe/galaxy trying to trap Superman in there. So do you have any logical reason for WF somehow deciding to create suns that could amp Superman beyond normal suns do and letting Superman oneshot him?

This doesn't have anything to do with what I said. I mentioned that no one could survive there, not even Mxy. Superman was only able to survive in this dimension due to Mxy giving him imp energy for YEARS. This alone is proof that this dimension is FAR more complex than the standard universe, especially if Mxy himself couldn't survive there and had to use most of his power to open a small door there. You don't have to call it magic but it sure as heck isn't normal either. Far from it. 🙂

The suns were not normal either.

Originally posted by carver9
This doesn't have anything to do with what I said. I mentioned that no one could survive there, not even Mxy. Superman was only able to survive in this dimension due to Mxy giving him imp energy for YEARS. This alone is proof that this dimension is FAR more complex than the standard universe, especially if Mxy himself couldn't survive there and had to use most of his power to open a small door there. You don't have to call it magic but it sure as heck isn't normal either. Far from it. 🙂

The suns were not normal either.

-WF created a normal multiverse in 6th dimension/The original multiverse was also designed and set in motion in there too---Proof not everything in 6th dimension, Especially these universes WF created, Are always more complex than normal. Since it can/did contain normal universes/objects in there

-JL also entered the multiverse that resided in 6th dimension without dying--Again, Proved that normal objects can/did exist in 6th dimension, Unless you want to argue other JL members were amped in that arc?

-WF created that universe to trap Superman because he absolutely didnt want Superman to fight/beat him--IOW, There is no logical reason for WF somehow deciding to create suns that could amp Superman far greater than normal suns do. The opposite that these suns were amping him less than normal suns should be more likely, If anything 😈

World Forger was creating a multiverse "after" Superman decked him in the face. Also, we have no clue the properties or how complex this multiverse would've been.

World Forger didn't create the suns, lmao. Also, again, you keep mentioning the place being a trap for Superman, but, Superman only survived there due to Mxy giving him imp energy for YEARS. Without it, he would've died. You're not addressing my statement.

So much cope lmao

Originally posted by carver9
World Forger was creating a multiverse "after" Superman decked him in the face. Also, we have no clue the properties or how complex this multiverse would've been.

World Forger didn't create the suns, lmao. Also, again, you keep mentioning the place being a trap for Superman, but, Superman only survived there due to Mxy giving him imp energy for YEARS. Without it, he would've died. You're not addressing my statement.

WF stated he created this multiverse and its only purpose was to replace the existing/original multiverse. Oh, this is a scene that happened before Superman oneshotted WF
https://ibb.co/HCGgfV1
https://ibb.co/2s48rWB
https://ibb.co/rQD3Fb1
https://ibb.co/FX3y0s4
https://ibb.co/vsLzSk1
https://ibb.co/fXmhB5z

And here, It was stated the original/normal multiverse was designed and set in motion in 6th dimension
https://ibb.co/4FqdGyr

Here, JL entered the multiverse that resides in 6th dimension without any ill effect
https://ibb.co/Q94Bzbx
https://ibb.co/ZLfqQXk

These scans stated WF created the pocket universe, IOW he also created these suns. Unless you want to argue these suns poped from nowhere?
https://ibb.co/q1bRrNM
https://ibb.co/6s3s2wF

Carver trying so hard with so little

Carver is actually right.

Uhuh.

Originally posted by carver9
World Forger was creating a multiverse "after" Superman decked him in the face. Also, we have no clue the properties or how complex this multiverse would've been.

World Forger didn't create the suns, lmao. Also, again, you keep mentioning the place being a trap for Superman, but, Superman only survived there due to Mxy giving him imp energy for YEARS. Without it, he would've died. You're not addressing my statement.

And this is what actually happened. Lmao.

Originally posted by qwertyuiop1998
..........Now Im pretty sure you dont read the story

WF stated he created this multiverse and its only purpose was to replace the existing/original multiverse. Oh, this is a scene that happened before Superman oneshotted WF
https://ibb.co/HCGgfV1
https://ibb.co/2s48rWB
https://ibb.co/rQD3Fb1
https://ibb.co/FX3y0s4
https://ibb.co/vsLzSk1
https://ibb.co/fXmhB5z

And here, It was stated the original/normal multiverse was designed and set in motion in 6th dimension
https://ibb.co/4FqdGyr

Here, JL entered the multiverse that resides in 6th dimension without any ill effect
https://ibb.co/Q94Bzbx
https://ibb.co/ZLfqQXk

These scans stated WF created the pocket universe, IOW he also created these suns. Unless you want to argue these suns poped from nowhere?
https://ibb.co/q1bRrNM
https://ibb.co/6s3s2wF

Magical Suns. 😂
Carver trying to cope by saying Superman couldn’t amp that much so he had help from magical suns.

The new multiverse that WF created in the 6th dimension was meant to be an exact replica of the mainstream 3D multiverse. It was such a perfect duplicate, in fact, that WF would have been able to replace the 3D multiverse with his new multiverse(via the Crisis Anvil) so seamlessly that even the Judges of the Source would have been unaware that the switch had occurred. The fact that WF crafted his new multiverse in a higher plane of reality doesn't change the fact that both multiverses were effectively identical in every cosmological way that matters.

Moreover, the galaxy that WF trapped Superman in was explicitly made to contain him, and keep him in a weakened state... So why in the holy hell would WF put superduper "magical" suns, that could inextricably provide some sort of mega-amp, in a galactic prison that was tailor made to keep Superman depowered?

The reaching here is... Something else.

Originally posted by qwertyuiop1998
..........Now Im pretty sure you dont read the story

WF stated he created this multiverse and its only purpose was to replace the existing/original multiverse. Oh, this is a scene that happened before Superman oneshotted WF
https://ibb.co/HCGgfV1
https://ibb.co/2s48rWB
https://ibb.co/rQD3Fb1
https://ibb.co/FX3y0s4
https://ibb.co/vsLzSk1
https://ibb.co/fXmhB5z

And here, It was stated the original/normal multiverse was designed and set in motion in 6th dimension
https://ibb.co/4FqdGyr

Here, JL entered the multiverse that resides in 6th dimension without any ill effect
https://ibb.co/Q94Bzbx
https://ibb.co/ZLfqQXk

These scans stated WF created the pocket universe, IOW he also created these suns. Unless you want to argue these suns poped from nowhere?
https://ibb.co/q1bRrNM
https://ibb.co/6s3s2wF

WF allowed them to enter that universe...

https://ibb.co/xJH8NfG

World Forger have the power to grant people, even the multiverse he created access to be in the 6th dimension. Without him, no one or nothing can survive there. No one can freely open a portal there and just walk in. This can only be granted by the monitors.

Originally posted by Galan007
The new multiverse that WF created in the 6th dimension was meant to be an exact replica of the mainstream 3D multiverse. It was such a perfect duplicate, in fact, that WF would have been able to replace the 3D multiverse with his new multiverse(via the Crisis Anvil) so seamlessly that even the Judges of the Source would have been unaware that the switch had occurred. The fact that WF crafted his new multiverse in a higher plane of reality doesn't change the fact that both multiverses were effectively identical in every cosmological way that matters.

Moreover, the galaxy that WF trapped Superman in was explicitly made to contain him, and keep him in a weakened state... So why in the holy hell would WF put superduper "magical" suns, that could inextricably provide some sort of mega-amp, in a galactic prison that was tailor made to keep Superman depowered?

The reaching here is... Something else.

I'm saying that the suns can not be called your average sun, even Superman himself hinted at this during his first dip.

https://2.bp.blogspot.com/_CocCQeT1u-4EGx29duyVFMRS-QH4sEm-6sAgy5PPyWviiDny5mclJjOwaikcbk-yny58-nVKHtSkRPwYdg8xJDqNaYrMjx7rviqmwmWiogpeIT-5oHYgM0aujQcpPDKGuzPmLtFBQ=s1600

The properties are just, different because they are not your every day sun. These things were created out of thin air and obviously had some context to them based off of Superman words during the first sun dip.

Originally posted by carver9
WF allowed them to enter that universe...

https://ibb.co/xJH8NfG

World Forger have the power to grant people, even the multiverse he created access to be in the 6th dimension. Without him, no one or nothing can survive there. No one can freely open a portal there and just walk in. This can only be granted by the monitors.