How strong is Hercules really by comparison.........

Originally posted by carver9
Again, he obviously was holding back because we saw him on panel get more powerful than WWH. Even after his fight against the Xmen, he admitted he held back throughout everything. Yes, Juggernaut was harder to put down than Colossus but shouldn't he be? Also, Hulk didn't one shot Guildo either, he didn't one shot Wolverine, Warpath, etc... that doesn't make them his equal, not even close. He just didn't try to kill them (as stated in my post). He states here that he didn't have time to fight Juggernaut...

https://ibb.co/x68yFZY

I dont get why you all are clinging to this. This thread isn't about Hulk. Hulk is a FAR more threatening person than anyone mentioned in this thread. The thread is mainly about Hercules, so peeps should get back on topic.

What started this.

Originally posted by Stoic
I recall the Hulk grabbing the Juggernaut with one hand, spinning him, and throwing him into a mountain. You use interviews, and editorials only when they suit your argument. The Hulk has no upper limit to his strength. Cain does and did. Thor overpowered him, or are we ignoring that as well?

Wrong. THIS is how it started.

Come back when you actually know what you're doing, lmao.

I'm talking about what started it with me. I don't care what Stoic said.

Originally posted by carver9
I'm talking about what started it with me. I don't care what Stoic said.

Well, you once more display your lack of comprehension.

Hulk lifted the Blob. Doesn’t that prove he’s stronger than physicality and able against Cain?

That alone proves nothing, the Blob weighs nearly a thousand lbs. All of these guys are class 100+

Originally posted by lawest9
That alone proves nothing, the Blob weighs nearly a thousand lbs. All of these guys are class 100+

Blob's weight is not the problem --- it's his own fucking gravity field and density control (which can make him weigh more than your handbook number) are.

You know, his main superpowers. Aside from the nigh-impenetrable fat hide and super-strength - those are extras. "Nothing moves the Blob" is more than just a catchphrase.

Still, there is a way to bypass it - grass, ground and rock can simply be torn off, along with Blob himself, leaving a hole where Blob was standing. That's how Hulk beat him.

A true feat would be lifting the Blob when he's standing on adamantium floor or some crazy shit like that.

Point taken. I was wrong. Thanks for correcting StiltmanFTW.

No problem.

Cain would easily replicate Hulk's feat against the Blob, assuming the fight happened in the same environment.

Originally posted by carver9
How TF can you support someone if your heart is going out? Emma states it almost killed him last time but a man almost dead is tanking explosions from an engine Hulk tossed at him. Shielded teammates and is standing up like nothing happened moments later. I'm guessing killed = your body being in 100% condition. I've learned something today. Thanks Stilt and Dark.

You realize that the energy from Hulk's punch was VASTLY bigger than the mediocre engine feat?

It's... literally nothing in comparison. Bruce Lee could beat up a grandpa while blindfolded and with his arms tied behind his back, if he wanted to. Doesn't mean he would pose a threat to a healthy man in his prime, not with those handicaps.

Thought you were a Hulk fan. Thanks for proving us wrong.

Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
Blob's weight is not the problem --- it's his own fucking gravity field and density control (which can make him weigh more than your handbook number) are.

You know, his main superpowers. Aside from the nigh-impenetrable fat hide and super-strength - those are extras. "Nothing moves the Blob" is more than just a catchphrase.

Still, there is a way to bypass it - grass, ground and rock can simply be torn off, along with Blob himself, leaving a hole where Blob was standing. That's how Hulk beat him.

A true feat would be lifting the Blob when he's standing on adamantium floor or some crazy shit like that.

Still Hulk held up a mountain ⛰ range with leverage. He should be able to recharge against an effort like Juggernaut and average his 70 ton base into death blow.

Originally posted by lawest9
I admit I didn't have the full 411 on Blobs powers, thanks for the fill in.

No problem 👆

He also beat Blob other ways - making Blob use his own stomach muscles against him:

https://comicvine1.cbsistatic.com/uploads/original/1/12397/757479-729795_hulk_moves_blob_marvel_fanfare_07_super.jpg.jpeg

Or forcibly stretching him beyond his limit (Blob is not Mister Fantastic, after all):

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EKyI_N3U4AE2jyA.jpg

Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
He's been like that for two decades. You ain't gonna change him.

Originally posted by carver9
And the scan I posted, the top panel, the first panel you see, numero uno, they are charging at each other. 🤦🏿🤦🏿🤦🏿

Except, they're clearly not, because the panel before that one shows Juggernaut headbutting Hulk in the chest, so they were right next to each other. Also, I don't know how you run, but you must have some serious physical issues if the shapes in your scan look like two people running at each other.

If Hulk boils down to 70 ton strength he can get the last shot in. I think a kill shot at 70 ton can be Colossus level. 50 caliber level. If that can kill anyone Hulk would win 🥇.

I call that the Colossus accord. lol.

Originally posted by Wonder Man
I call that the Colossus accord. lol.

Originally posted by Psychotron
Of course. As soon as he's proved wrong he moves the goal posts.

Except, they're clearly not, because the panel before that one shows Juggernaut headbutting Hulk in the chest, so they were right next to each other. Also, I don't know how you run, but you must have some serious physical issues if the shapes in your scan look like two people running at each other.

The actual post is gone and nobody screenshotted it, but Gage did elaborate on the subject a bit on CBR forums, like 12 years ago:

Originally posted by Knowsbleed33
...more fights.

Juggernaut vs. the Hulk pt. 4:

I've debated (on here and other boards) many times about the context of this fight. Many believe that Juggernaut was using his unstoppability enchantment and the Hulk slowed him to a crawl (some believe he stopped him). I've always believed that it was purely a test of strength and I was proven correct. Thanks to my friend who goes by Cain Marko on his fan site, The writer of the WWH/ X-Men books Christos Gage confirms that it was indeed a test of strength and the Juggernaut matched (and even surpassed) the strongest Hulk to date.

http://forums.comicbookresources.com/showpost.php?p=5411579&postcount=36

Basis for Hulk’s victory. Hulk can get the 50 caliber of Colossus level on anyone for the kill.
Hulk is Hulk.

Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
The actual post is gone and nobody screenshotted it, but Gage did elaborate on the subject a bit on CBR forums, like 12 years ago:

It's sad when writers have to confirm the obvious. It's not like this is the first time Juggernaut and Hulk fought, and they have always been presented as physical peers.

Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
No problem 👆

He also beat Blob other ways - making Blob use his own stomach muscles against him:

https://comicvine1.cbsistatic.com/uploads/original/1/12397/757479-729795_hulk_moves_blob_marvel_fanfare_07_super.jpg.jpeg

Or forcibly stretching him beyond his limit (Blob is not Mister Fantastic, after all):

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EKyI_N3U4AE2jyA.jpg

You know, if it was as easy as breaking the ground Juggernaut wouldn't be nearly as unstoppable, because the ground should break up as soon as he charged into Hulk or someone.

Since he's pushing off the ground and all.