Originally posted by jaden_2.0
Sweden privatized their railroads and auctioned off state land, like the USSR when it collapsed. The American government hoards land and only sells the resource rights which causes strip mining.
I can't think of anything in America that isn't at least partially socialized.
Ffs we've fulfilled all ten planks of the commie manifesto lol
Originally posted by jaden_2.0
I could probably buy the US railroads with the spare change in my pockets, they're that bad. Always been strange that they've never done anything better with them. The US would be a great country for high speed rail. Great scenery to see when travelling at 400mph across the country.
The fact that the state owner railroads have stagnated doesn't prove my point to you ?
Originally posted by jaden_2.0You could say the same about Canada. 😬
I could probably buy the US railroads with the spare change in my pockets, they're that bad. Always been strange that they've never done anything better with them. The US would be a great country for high speed rail. Great scenery to see when travelling at 400mph across the country.
Originally posted by ilikecomics
The fact that the state owner railroads have stagnated doesn't prove my point to you ?
I think other factors come into play in the US. Cheap fuel prices relative to other countries. A bigger car "culture". Domestic aviation dominance.
There never seems to have been the same romanticism about rail that there was in other countries so demand was never high for a high quality rail system for passengers. It was mostly about industry and freight.
Originally posted by jaden_2.0
I think other factors come into play in the US. Cheap fuel prices relative to other countries. A bigger car "culture". Domestic aviation dominance.There never seems to have been the same romanticism about rail that there was in other countries so demand was never high for a high quality rail system for passengers. It was mostly about industry and freight.
This is sensible 👆
Originally posted by RobtardI think cars are stupid. £10,000 upfront plus paying for driving lessons and the test plus tax on the car, MOT, insurance, repairs, maintenance, petrol and if you make one mistake, you have to pay to get it right AND THEN you may get a speeding fine, run a red light, crash or get bad health from the fumes let alone polluting the environment.
This is true. They recently built a "Smart Train" here and it's largely a flop, the expected passenger pool isn't even half, people love their cars.
Originally posted by RobtardI've been to L.A. to see my auntie and her family. Her son lives in Texas. I couldn't believe how large the cars were and how busy the roads were. I hate to think how bad Texas is.
The UK has superb public transit, at least compared to the US. You can also traverse the whole island in about a day, yeah? California alone is almost twice as large.
Originally posted by Robtard
The UK has superb public transit, at least compared to the US. You can also traverse the whole island in about a day, yeah? California alone is almost twice as large.
Egg zacktly.
It's like playing Sim City and flawlessly running a small city as opposed to a super overblown one. Inverse relationship between a countries size and efficiency.
Not to take away from their achievement in public transit, it simply isn't comparable to US infrastructure issues.
Originally posted by Blakemore
Surely you would have had some state sponsored subway system with all that vast land you have.
More land doesn't make creating infrastructure easier. It makes it more complicated. More to dig up, more people to pay, more rights to secure, more red tape to cut through..
And logistically speaking will take far longer to execute.
Pretty crap in comparison to most of Europe though. Far over priced in comparison too. One of the biggest recent ironies in the UK with regards to rail is that the Conservative government are bringing rail franchise operators back into public ownership because the private sector has ran them terribly. This is something they campaigned against when the opposition Labour Party proposed it because it was a socialist policy. Now the Conservatives are enacting socialist renationalisation of private industry in order for them to run more profitably and efficiently. Lulz
Originally posted by cdtmBut, what about states rights? I'm not suggesting going 500 miles or something, but surely some kind of subway system, no?
More land doesn't make creating infrastructure easier. It makes it more complicated. More to dig up, more people to pay, more rights to secure, more red tape to cut through..And logistically speaking will take far longer to execute.