Iron Man vs Aquaman

Originally posted by h1a8
Notice how I claimed that 616 Iron Man has no quantifiable feats above 200 tons.
If you disagree then post the feats (scans or issue numbers). That's how you debate.

Neo-Classic Iron Man sends Iron Clad flying miles away with a repulsor boosted hit: Avengers West Coast (1989) #53

Iron Man (classic armor) topples mountains with the shockwaves of his punches: Marvel Feature (1971) #12

Classic Iron Man punch sends cracks throughout a man-made island while trying not to kill everyone: Iron Man (1968) #127

Deep-space armor overpowers West Coast level force and was tanking explosion: Iron Man: Fatal Frontier Infinite Comic - Issue #1

Neo Classic armor tanks blast from Thanos that destroys the West Coast: INFINITY GAUNTLET (1991) ISSUE #2

Iron Man Model 42 escapes center of black hole caused by the self-destruction of Godkiller (which is ancient and was capable of killing celestials): Iron Man (2013) issue #16

Extremis Iron Man bullrushes Terrax into Space in just a few panels and blasted him through a satellite + out of the Solar System: Iron Man (2020) #1

Iron Man's repulsors cancel out Earthquakes that would be 9-11 on the Richter Scale - Iron Man (1968) Annual 12

I put repulsor feats because they are battle relevant.

I have plenty of scans of Iron Man/War Machine suits lifting far over that 200 ton headcanon, Iuckily for you I cannot post links and all my images are too big. If you don't accept these feats, I'll list some more.

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Oh THAT'S common knowledge.

Maybe Tony can build a sexy fish for Arthur. Seaman-buster.

Good thing that this isn’t a prep match then huh?

Originally posted by FlawlessFridge
Notice how every single feat I listed was for 616 Iron Man

Neo-Classic Iron Man sends Iron Clad flying miles away with a repulsor boosted hit: Avengers West Coast (1989) #53

Iron Man (classic armor) topples mountains with the shockwaves of his punches: Marvel Feature (1971) #12

Classic Iron Man punch sends cracks throughout a man-made island while trying not to kill everyone: Iron Man (1968) #127

Deep-space armor overpowers West Coast level force and was tanking explosion: Iron Man: Fatal Frontier Infinite Comic - Issue #1

Neo Classic armor tanks blast from Thanos that destroys the West Coast: INFINITY GAUNTLET (1991) ISSUE #2

Iron Man Model 42 escapes center of black hole caused by the self-destruction of Godkiller (which is ancient and was capable of killing celestials): Iron Man (2013) issue #16

Extremis Iron Man bullrushes Terrax into Space in just a few panels and blasted him through a satellite + out of the Solar System: Iron Man (2020) #1

Iron Man's repulsors cancel out Earthquakes that would be 9-11 on the Richter Scale - Iron Man (1968) Annual 12

I put repulsor feats because they are battle relevant.

I have plenty of scans of Iron Man/War Machine suits lifting far over that 200 ton headcanon, Iuckily for you I cannot post links and all my images are too big. If you don't accept these feats, I'll list some more.

Hunt for Wolverine: Adamantium Agenda #3: Bleeding Edge Iron Man drags a submarine from half a mile in the ocean

Invincible Iron Man (2008) #519: Model 39 War Machine lifts a massive boat structure

Iron Man (1968)#121: Classic Iron Man tows 5 battleships, each weighing over 50,000 tons

Iron Man: Iron Protocols - Extremis armor physically stopped a rocket that dwarfed the Helicarrier in size and it was too heavy for the Helicarrier to lift more than a piece

Originally posted by Stoic
Good thing that this isn’t a prep match then huh?

*Whoosh*

Originally posted by FlawlessFridge
Some more since I couldn't post the scans

Hunt for Wolverine: Adamantium Agenda #3: Bleeding Edge Iron Man drags a submarine from half a mile in the ocean

Invincible Iron Man (2008) #519: Model 39 War Machine lifts a massive boat structure

Iron Man (1968)#121: Classic Iron Man tows 5 battleships, each weighing over 50,000 tons

Iron Man: Iron Protocols - Extremis armor physically stopped a rocket that dwarfed the Helicarrier in size and it was too heavy for the Helicarrier to lift more than a piece

Lol this is how H1 operates.

They'll make a statement, posting zero proof.
They'll ask the other side to prove everything
They'll nitpick the proof posted.

H1 doesn't actually know much past what they can get from respect threads, and even then they refuse to actually post anything supporting their stance.

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
H1 doesn't actually know much past what they can get from respect threads, and even then they refuse to actually post anything supporting their stance.

You're giving h1 way too much credit, assuming he actually bothers to check those.

To this day I don't know what he's actually doing here. His true purpose. But it can't be anything good.

Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
You're giving h1 way too much credit, assuming he actually bothers to check those.

To this day I don't know what he's actually doing here. His true purpose. But it can't be anything good.

What a way to spend 17 years.

Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
What a way to spend 17 years.

Originally posted by MrMind
namor made sentry and thanos bleed with his punches

Didn’t he break every bone in his hand punching Thanos? Sounds kind of counter productive…

Aquaman has made Poseidon bleed with a punch and had the world scared of him after he punched Superman in Throne of Atlantis who was conveniently missing for the start of the war afterwards

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Lol this is how H1 operates.

They'll make a statement, posting zero proof.
They'll ask the other side to prove everything
They'll nitpick the proof posted.

H1 doesn't actually know much past what they can get from respect threads, and even then they refuse to actually post anything supporting their stance.

Putting characters like Iron Man, Thing, or even Namor (who doesn't seem to have any quantifiable feat above city level) under 1,000 tonners is laughable. Very wild to claim Iron Man had no feats above 200 tons. I'd bet most of the characters on the level Tony gets put at don't even have the amount of good quantifiable feats that Iron Man has.

That's not even going into the whole weird "don't use ABC scaling" thing when I literally was just explaining a specific ability that allows Iron Man to operate far above his normal level for a few seconds. They bring up stuff like Spider-Man beating Firelord which is completely different considering Spider-Man was un-amped, at his normal levels of strength lmao In all honesty it just came off as Aquaman fan cope by acting like what the majority of people think about Iron Man is more important than what actually happened in the comics.

Their argument really backfired when trying to imply Aquaman is quantifiably on par with Namor, AKA the guy who wouldn't be nearly as impressive without scaling off of what guys like Thing, Iron Man, Hulk, Thor ect. could do. Luckily for them I'm not trying to lowball Arthur's strength here.

The hell are you ranting about… earlier in this thread I was asking to compare best physical stat feats between both Aquaman and Ironman… more talking on your part and less actually paying attention to what’s actually going on in the thread.

I don’t deny Ironman has scaling feats I just bring up the wonky consistency of it. Because it’s sketchy as hell trying to pretend he’s physically on par with Hulk or even close.

@EcstaticGrace

I was actually referring to H1 who asked for proof, not you. I wasn't the one who claimed he could match Hulk, I gave that person the context of it though.

@FlawlessFridge apologies then. Your Namor comment seemed directed at me though. Or atleast I perceived it that way. But my mistake

Originally posted by FlawlessFridge
@EcstaticGrace

I was actually referring to H1 who asked for proof, not you. I wasn't the one who claimed he could match Hulk, I gave that person the context of it though.

Originally posted by EcstaticGrace
@FlawlessFridge apologies then. Your Namor comment seemed directed at me though. Or atleast I perceived it that way. But my mistake

No he isn't. They are peers. Aquaman has gotten a strength push lately. Tectonic plates and others.

Namor has consistently contended with Thing who is in the 100-300 the range.

Namor in average may be slightly stronger but not by much.

Really putting any of these 4 in the 100-300 ton range is some heavy lowball, but I was mainly referring to that first sentence. H1 had later brought up scaling off the Hulk when that was never what I was trying to do in the first place so I wanted to point out how removing scaling and then calling Aquaman a peer to Namor is really not helpful for Aquaman in this fight.

Namor would barely be above nuke level without scaling, that's all I'm saying.

Iron man is one of those characters who have a lot of feats to draw from but is always shown inferior to a true top tier. Not so long ago he admitted he couldn't beat she hulk (unamped) and Thor/Hulk beat the crap out of him in pretty one sided encounters.

He still wins here.

Originally posted by FlawlessFridge
You're good, for that Namor thing I was talking about when H1 said this on page 5

Really putting any of these 4 in the 100-300 ton range is some heavy lowball, but I was mainly referring to that first sentence. H1 had later brought up scaling off the Hulk when that was never what I was trying to do in the first place so I wanted to point out how removing scaling and then calling Aquaman a peer to Namor is really not helpful for Aquaman in this fight.

Namor would barely be above nuke level without scaling, that's all I'm saying.

Honestly I could agree with no scaling would be more of an issue for Namor than it would be for Aquaman. Aquaman actually has some pretty impressive feats without scaling.

Surviving in the Earth’s outer core
Moving a section of a tectonic plate
Taking an attack from someone who destroyed the largest continent to exist.
Triggering a underwater lava vent by throwing his trident

Are probably the biggest stuff I can think of off the top of my head.

With scaling he has statements suggesting he’s one of the strongest people on his Earth and I honestly don’t think Ironman gets accolades like that. It’s a hard case to try and make to suggest Ironman is physically superior to Aquaman. Only arguement I could see for Ironman would be his versatility.

Originally posted by abhilegend
Iron man is one of those characters who have a lot of feats to draw from but is always shown inferior to a true top tier. Not so long ago he admitted he couldn't beat she hulk (unamped) and Thor/Hulk beat the crap out of him in pretty one sided encounters.

He still wins here.

Originally posted by Old Man Whirly!
You're a nice guy Flawless Fridge, no doubt.