Most powerful person byrne era Superman can take down.

Originally posted by Juntai
It's because Superman is the most powerful reality warper in comics. The story forms around him.

But yeah, even excluding that, it's pretty clear that being the most powerful man on Earth is just his floor, and he has many gears after that. He can be surprised and roughed up though before he realizes he has to hit the next level. Which is something he gets criticized for by his peers occasionally as well.

In a recent issue of Superman/Batman, Mxy even lays this out pretty clearly.

Originally posted by Stoic
If we removed flagship characters, which other characters got boosts? I strongly believe that Byrne Superman would've beaten Rogol Zaar, because he has always been as strong as the plot needed him to be. I mean, did Zod get a boosts? Why did Zod appear to give Superman a better fight than Darkseid back in the days of pre flash? Superman is simply a metatextual almighty character that has been paraded around as being peers to guys that he will eventually flatten, even though they initially gave him a decent fight. Check out the latest issues of Action Comics. Mongul is a badass right now, but watch and see what's in store for him. No one can beat Superman.

Having looked back recently, I can confirm Byrne Superman is not weak at all.

Marv Wolfman's Superman was.

He wrong Adventures of Superman, while Byrne handled the mainline comic and Action fell into different hands.

Marv Wolfman had Superman lose to the Fearsome Five, he was honestly more pathetic then current Thor.

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
In a recent issue of Superman/Batman, Mxy even lays this out pretty clearly.

Originally posted by Delta1938
Honestly this doesn't prove he wasn't KOed. He even mentions his healing factor. Could have been just recovered.

And managed to beat Charles to the car, clean himself up and change his clothes - despite Charles treating it as emergency and sprinting there from the start? Without him noticing, too?

He is not Quicksilver or Nightcrawler.

Seeing how the student would react in such situation was very much in Wolverine's interest, hence his death speech on the beginning:

Originally posted by Juntai
It's because Superman is the most powerful reality warper in comics. The story forms around him.

But yeah, even excluding that, it's pretty clear that being the most powerful man on Earth is just his floor, and he has many gears after that. He can be surprised and roughed up though before he realizes he has to hit the next level. Which is something he gets criticized for by his peers occasionally as well.

Totally agree with you. What I've always found LOL-Worthy throughout the years of reading Superman comics, is him being vulnerable to magic. He's actually magical without having to tap into some unknown mystical source of power if you take time to really think about it. I once asked an Army Sergeant if he could think of one comic character that could beat Superman, and he laughed before saying that fighting Superman in real time would be impossible, because it would end nearly as fast as it began.

Originally posted by cdtm
Having looked back recently, I can confirm Byrne Superman is not weak at all.

Marv Wolfman's Superman was.

He wrong Adventures of Superman, while Byrne handled the mainline comic and Action fell into different hands.

Marv Wolfman had Superman lose to the Fearsome Five, he was honestly more pathetic then current Thor.

I remember those days. I also remember wondering how the hell he could feel a punch from Mammoth after lifting more weight with his pinky than Mammoth could while using all of his strength.

Originally posted by Juntai
You got the issue or scans? I've been on-off with keeping up with some stuff. I consume in waves.

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Originally posted by qwertyuiop1998
Issue number is on the scans' name( Batman/Superman 22)

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👆 thanks for getting them for me.

Originally posted by qwertyuiop1998
Issue number is on the scans' name( Batman/Superman 22)

https://ibb.co/pJG7hmw
https://ibb.co/G3rVHk5
https://ibb.co/SQGZfFF
https://ibb.co/hch2YnR