Oh. That guy. 😂
Yeah, he was sympathetic towards the Palestinians. I get where you're coming from.
Isn't Starmer pro Israel and backed by good ol' Tory Bliar? How's that for peace in the middle east?
Sorry, I shouldn't be making fun of it. It's a sensitive issue and honestly I'd rather not take a stance.
Originally posted by Blakemore
Oh. That guy. 😂Yeah, he was sympathetic towards the Palestinians. I get where you're coming from.
Isn't Starmer pro Israel and backed by good ol' Tory Bliar? How's that for peace in the middle east?
Sorry, I shouldn't be making fun of it. It's a sensitive issue and honestly I'd rather not take a stance.
Ha! It's fine.
JC was far far from a perfect politician. But he was clearly a well intentioned person and a good man. He was fighting against the Apartheid when other politicians were silent on (or outright supporting it). And he was leader of the Labour party for almost 5 years.
So to boot him out and refuse to let him back in is honestly disgusting. And shows Starmer is slimy AF (remember JC had Starmer in his Shadow Cabinet).
Originally posted by Darth ThorAgain, I don't know what stance to take...
Ha! It's fine.JC was far far from a perfect politician. But he was clearly a well intentioned person and a good man. He was fighting against the Apartheid when other politicians were silent on (or outright supporting it). And he was leader of the Labour party for almost 5 years.
So to boot him out and refuse to let him back in is honestly disgusting. And shows Starmer is slimy AF (remember JC had Starmer in his Shadow Cabinet).
On one hand, I believe Palestinians deserve rights to live where they live.
On the other hand, there's a big powerful situation between Zionists and anti-Zionists in the middle east and they both have the same idea: "Kill the other side."
I can't pick a side. They both disgust me. srug
As for Starmer, yeah he did shaft JC in the back. I'm guessing his reasoning was how appalling JC did in two elections.
Originally posted by Blakemore
Again, I don't know what stance to take...On one hand, I believe Palestinians deserve rights to live where they live.
On the other hand, there's a big powerful situation between Zionists and anti-Zionists in the middle east and they both have the same idea: "Kill the other side."
I can't pick a side. They both disgust me. srug
Well put it this way:
If you gave Palestinians their own sovereignty and human rights, then they wouldn't be trying to kill the other side. Why would they?
However, if Palestinians did no attacks on Israel (which they often don't), then Israel would still keep them trapped in that open prison called Gaza and just generally control them and treat them like shit.
Originally posted by Darth ThorThey live in a shit area and are funded by terrorist governments who want Islam to control Jeruselum.
Well put it this way:If you gave Palestinians their own sovereignty and human rights, then they wouldn't be trying to kill the other side. Why would they?
However, if Palestinians did no attacks on Israel (which they often don't), then Israel would still keep them trapped in that open prison called Gaza and just generally control them and treat them like shit.
I mean, give 'em a good home.
I feel I'm speaking from ignorance here. 😮
Originally posted by Blakemore
They live in a shit area and are funded by terrorist governments who want Islam to control Jeruselum.I mean, give 'em a good home.
I feel I'm speaking from ignorance here. 😮
It's fine, don't worry about speaking from ignorance (at least you admit it and willing to discuss to learn more).
Well that terrorist government has the support of the people simply because they're the only ones who fight for them.
They want Muslims to control Jerusalem because clearly under Israel's control Palestinian's are treated like shit, whilst under Muslim rule Jews lived there with everyone else for centuries.
Also Israel wasn't even there a century ago.
Originally posted by Darth ThorOkay, but consider the Zionists from America. Ben Shapiro, for example. What an evil ****, he is!
It's fine, don't worry about speaking from ignorance (at least you admit it and willing to discuss to learn more).Well that terrorist government has the support of the people simply because they're the only ones who fight for them.
They want Muslims to control Jerusalem because clearly under Israel's control Palestinian's are treated like shit, whilst under Muslim rule Jews lived there with everyone else for centuries.
Also Israel wasn't even there a century ago.
Originally posted by Blakemore
Okay, but consider the Zionists from America. Ben Shapiro, for example. What an evil ****, he is!
Ha! Yeah he is! But I have enjoyed the clips I've seen from their documentary "What is a Woman"
Jordan Peterson has also joined his organisation. He has a lot of Muslim followers, but recently (after joining Shapiro) put out a message to Muslims to stop hating Christians and even Jews. And praising Trump's Abraham accords.
And now Muslims be like "WTH is he on about? We don't hate Jews or Christians?!" And like "Oh the Abraham accords which made corrupt middle eastern muslim nation governments completely sell out to Israel? Yeah sure that was great!"
Originally posted by Blakemore
See, we've got evil bastards like that in America. They want Israel to be controlled by them.Bill O'Reilly is another one -- fox news in general.
To them, it's just a big money making scheme and **** the Palestinians. 😬
Basically yeah. And if you stick up for the Palestinians youre labelled an Anti-Semite. Even it can be argued that Palestinians are also Semites.
Originally posted by Darth Thor
Basically yeah. And if you stick up for the Palestinians youre labelled an Anti-Semite. Even it can be argued that Palestinians are also Semites.
It can be argued that air is neccessary for people to breathe.
jk
Palestinians are Semites. The area on Earth where Semites are native residents is from Ethipia to Iraq.
Every one in Iraq who is the child of an Iraqui is a Semite. Whether they are Muslim or Christian or Jewish or Atheist. Every single one of them is a Semite.
Saying theres an arguament Palestinians are Semites is like me saying theres an arguament French people are Europeans.
Originally posted by shiv
It can be argued that air is neccessary for people to breathe.jk
Palestinians are Semites. The area on Earth where Semites are native residents is from Ethipia to Iraq.
Every one in Iraq who is the child of an Iraqui is a Semite. Whether they are Muslim or Christian or Jewish or Atheist. Every single one of them is a Semite.
Saying theres an arguament Palestinians are Semites is like me saying theres an arguament French people are Europeans.
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Btw Darth Thor
Jeremy Corbyn is still a member of the Labour party and the Labour Constituency Office of North Islington are backing him for reselection.
Yes he's had the whip removed from him since 2020 but the Labour Office of his constituency don't care. As some one pointed out. Even Boris Johnson decided to buy a home and raise his young family in Jeremy Corbyn's constituency.
He's one of those rare representatives who grew up in the area he represents and has lived there all his life and knows every thing his people need. And goes to see them in their cafes, in their small businesses, walks every where in his constituency (he doesn't drive) so speaks with every one. That is so rare. And that is why he has been elected for over 40 years in a row.
Labour have been talking of parachuting candidates who know absolutely nothing about the local people and their needs.
How did that work out in the last election? People who voted Labour refused to vote for them for just one time.
If people in Wakefield can refuse to vote for Labour when they've voted Labour all their Life they can do the same in Islington.
Every one knows even if JC stood as an independent he'd be working with Labour anyway... I mean he's an independent right now independently working in Labours Constituency Office. (Independent in Name Only).
How exactly can a person be a Card Carrying Labour party member and an Indepenent Parliament Rep at the same time?
I guess Starmer can have his pretend win. Having the whip or not having it doesn't change the fact JC wouldn't be in Starmer's cabinet anyway.
I can't imagine the unions not having some thing to say about JC being reselected.
It actually isn't neccessary for JC to be referred to as a Labour MP when in Parliament for The Uniions to have him bring forward motions, etc. The speaker Lindsay Hoyle and JC are on good terms and have been on good terms for decades. If he has some thing major. The speaker who JC always had time for when he led Labour will give him time.
I wouldn't be too beat up about JC not officially named as a Labour rep.
It would be hilarious if JC got an even bigger majority in his constituency if he stood as an independent.
This is very likely to happen as People who vote the opposittion candidates to Labour in the area would see him as the most likely to lower the vote for labour and get labour out. And of course people who have grown old and who grew up under his watch and really appreciate him would continue to vote for him as would the people who vote for him as they recognise he is probably the best consituency mp in England.
^ Theyre going to have a Labour candidate running against JC, so thats just semantics.
The only reason JC is still technically a member is because the NEC reinstated him, so Starmer couldnt do anything about it:
But Starmer had pretty much made clear (with any excuse possible) that JC wont run as a Labour MP again:
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/jeremy-corbyn-labour-nato-starmer-b2064271.html?amp
Slimy evil s*** that Keir Starmer. But hey the Tories were partying during Covid so we all better vote that other evil schmuck in.