KMC positions that did not age well against facts.

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Originally posted by Blakemore
Bashar has a fat mum? 😂
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Originally posted by cdtm
So you support personal autonomy even if we all pay through a strain on public health services?

Is your view consistent with Anti-Vaxxers beliefs against cries that they harm the public health system?

What about those that claim words can have real consequence? Is it on us to live with the consequences of their words?

If you believe in "my self, my choice, you live with it" across the board, great.

Which anti-vaxxers were denied COVID-19 care? It seems they were allowed to have their cake and eat it too, so why do you give a shit when it is people who are clinically fat, but not clinically stupid?

Originally posted by jaden_2.0
Except that my analogy is exactly what people did. At first they denied that obesity had any correlation to making covid outcomes worse. Then when the evidence mounted up they pivoted to your "too late now" argument.

Again, we're more than 2 years in to this. People are still dying.

Tell me again how people couldn't help themselves in 2 years...

What people? Who are they? That reeks of the "some people are saying" game from Fox News.

Avoid the hype

Gabby petito already had sex with Terrence Cody Here’s Johnny and the whole entire peanut gallery and turned from let it go Snow White into I am the Walrus version of The Wicked Witch of the West from the Hills Have Eyes with a Tranny Dick and is remotely inseminating you with John Travulta’s testicle wiener hose as we speak

The boy who cried wolf

Kiss the Frog and it turns into a Prince

You see to the Layman the random aggregate of these series of sentences would appear to be mere psychobabble gibberish bullshit, but to those who know my story and understand the Artemis Fowl references, they begin to underline a certain criminal element in certain future projections just now coming in

Peanut gallery will get raped by Jesse James and his motley crew of misfits and mishaps such as the redheaded retarded stepchild

Originally posted by Adam_PoE
Which anti-vaxxers were denied COVID-19 care? It seems they were allowed to have their cake and eat it too, so why do you give a shit when it is people who are clinically fat, but not clinically stupid?
The nematode pill making me lose matches in the past is not what this is about. This whole thing had to do with the foreskin ritual thing

Originally posted by Bashar Teg
depression/anxiety/stress epidemic could have something to do with it. Trouble I'm having with your argument is not really fat shaming, but rather you seem to imply that fat people are all mobilized like programmed trumpers, playing a secret 4d chess gaslighting farce on everyone.

Even the image posted is devoid of context. Bariatric patients, for example, can only expect to lose about 100 lbs. in a year. People on calorie-restricted diets can expect to lose only half of that.

Meanwhile, 70% of Americans are overweight, and more than half of them are clinically obese. Expecting overweight people to lose 10–34 lbs. and obese people to lose 35–75 lbs. or more to get to a healthy weight with a normal COVID risk will take them well into the pandemic.

That is why it is not a useful strategy for mitigating risk. Never mind that if losing weight was as easy as putting it on, we would not have such high obesity rates and national health problem to begin with.

It is advice that helps absolutely no one. They do not need to be reminded that they are fat. They know they are fat. They have mirrors.

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Originally posted by Adam_PoE
Even the image posted is devoid of context. Bariatric patients, for example, can only expect to lose about 100 lbs. in a year. People on calorie-restricted diets can expect to lose only half of that.

Meanwhile, 70% of Americans are overweight, and more than half of them are clinically obese. Expecting overweight people to lose 10–34 lbs. and obese people to lose 35–75 lbs. or more to get to a healthy weight with a normal COVID risk will take them well into the pandemic.

That is why it is not a useful strategy for mitigating risk. Never mind that if losing weight was as easy as putting it on, we would not have such high obesity rates and national health problem to begin with.

It is advice that helps absolutely no one. They do not need to be reminded that they are fat. They know they are fat. They have mirrors.

context congruent posting patterns oh what a coincidence

Originally posted by Blakemore
Sure, but I wonder why they got that way in the first place. Like, didn't they realise obesity is unhealthy and something to avoid? Or did they just simply not care about their health and how it could impact people around them?

One choice at a time.

They did not become overweight overnight. It happened so gradually and so slowly that they mistaked the signs of their weight gain for other things. And they did not realize they were fat until their weight gain had already snowballed out of control.

Originally posted by Adam_PoE
One choice at a time.

They did not become overweight overnight. It happened so gradually and so slowly that they mistaked the signs of their weight gain for other things. And they did not realize they were fat until their weight gain had already snowballed out of control.

And by itself that's horrible, without taking in to account things like illnesses (physical and mental) and the medication that can go along with it. Or any other number of factors that can lead to weight gain. It is very ****ing easy to have shit snowball until you look in the mirror one day and realise what you've become.

Okay, I guess medicine and injury can be forgiven.

Like when an athlete breaks their leg, they're going to gain weight. Or when someone takes antidepressants or some other kind of medicine, weight gain can happen due to low mobility and/or low self-esteem.

I'm 5'9 and the heaviest I've been is ~200 pounds after months of antipsychotic medicine, but even that's not obese.

Overweight is one thing, but obesity just looks extreme to me. I mean think about it. They have twice or more the circumference of a normal person.

Hey, Adam Richmond was literally paid to binge eat, and he managed to lose weight.

Of course there will be the odd case of extenuating circumstances. Just like some students have cognitive disabilities.

Yet most students with failing grades are just lazy, and we rightly call them out as such.

Same thing with weight. Most morbidly obese people don't even really try.

I don't think getting big is the issue in the first place. It's when people get big, then refuse to do anything about it that it becomes a much bigger issue. There's far too much misinformation out there and, let's be fair, losing weight isn't exactly easy for a lot of people.

They should still do it, and for the vast majority of them it is possible. It's just not an easy road.

I think the issue is that they’re letting anyone within a five yard radius pick ball growing meds over peck growing meds because they think women are interested in how the feel. ‘Amirite’? 😮‍💨

On the real though, can we make it so next time I’m outside you can at least not pretend in this sim that just because I can’t see her in my direct field of vision that I have to be looking at her directly in order for her to hear me and respond to what I say in the correct manner.

Originally posted by -Pr-
And by itself that's horrible, without taking in to account things like illnesses (physical and mental) and the medication that can go along with it. Or any other number of factors that can lead to weight gain. It is very ****ing easy to have shit snowball until you look in the mirror one day and realise what you've become.

Most people do not set out to become overweight, it is usually the result of multiple compounding factors. Metabolism slows with age, so people burn fewer calories with the same level of activity. So someone can start gaining weight without having changed her behaviors in any way.

She is moving the same and eating the same, so in her mind, her weight should stay the same. But her body is using energy differently, and she is slowly gaining weight.

And the signs of weight gain can be mistaken for other things. A pair of pants may suddenly feel tight, but maybe they shrunk in the wash. She may suddenly feel winded climbing a flight of stairs, but maybe she was just feeling run down that day. She may notice she has a double-chin, but maybe her skin is losing its elasticity with age.

The point is that most people experience these signs independently, not interdependently, so they do not realize they have the same cause until they gain enough weight for the weight itself to be entirely obvious.

But at that point, the weight gain is snowballing. Once the momentum is going in a particular direction, it takes a lot of effort to stop it, let alone turn it in the other direction.

And our bodies like to store fat, it is a survival mechanism against famine and starvation. So it is much easier to put it on than it is to take it off. Especially, since there is a significant delay between when you are full, and when your brain registers that you are full. So it is easy for people to not know they have overeaten until 20 minutes after they have finished.

Losing weight, particularly large amounts of weight, is a lot more difficult than "wash your hands," "wear a mask," "get a shot," etc. That is why it is not useful suggestion for managing COVID. It does not offer protection now, when it is needed, but years from now, when it is accomplished.

Originally posted by -Pr-
I don't think getting big is the issue in the first place. It's when people get big, then refuse to do anything about it that it becomes a much bigger issue. There's far too much misinformation out there and, let's be fair, losing weight isn't exactly easy for a lot of people.

They should still do it, and for the vast majority of them it is possible. It's just not an easy road.

There is a lot of misinformation about weight loss, and most of it seems plausible. That is why pseudo-science is dangerous, because many people cannot discern that it is not true.

So people make earnest efforts, but they are doing strategies that do not work. And when it fails to produce results, because it was never going to produce results, they see it as a personal failure.

Not only do they get discouraged from trying again, but diet failures result in increased weight gain. That is why they are called "yo-yo diets."

So the end up in a worse position, heavier with a slower metabolism and a higher propensity to put on weight, than before they started. Do that enough times, and losing weight will seem impossible.

So if you are going to gain weight no matter what you do, why be miserable? Why starve yourself, and eat things you hate, and exercise to exhaustion just to gain weight? You may as well eat things you enjoy.

Obesity reflects a dogmatic hopelessness.

Originally posted by Adam_PoE
Most people do not set out to become overweight, it is usually the result of multiple compounding factors. Metabolism slows with age, so people burn fewer calories with the same level of activity. So someone can start gaining weight without having changed her behaviors in any way.

She is moving the same and eating the same, so in her mind, her weight should stay the same. But her body is using energy differently, and she is slowly gaining weight.

And the signs of weight gain can be mistaken for other things. A pair of pants may suddenly feel tight, but maybe they shrunk in the wash. She may suddenly feel winded climbing a flight of stairs, but maybe she was just feeling run down that day. She may notice she has a double-chin, but maybe her skin is losing its elasticity with age.

The point is that most people experience these signs independently, not interdependently, so they do not realize they have the same cause until they gain enough weight for the weight itself to be entirely obvious.

But at that point, the weight gain is snowballing. Once the momentum is going in a particular direction, it takes a lot of effort to stop it, let alone turn it in the other direction.

And our bodies like to store fat, it is a survival mechanism against famine and starvation. So it is much easier to put it on than it is to take it off. Especially, since there is a significant delay between when you are full, and when your brain registers that you are full. So it is easy for people to not know they have overeaten until 20 minutes after they have finished.

Losing weight, particularly large amounts of weight, is a lot more difficult than "wash your hands," "wear a mask," "get a shot," etc. That is why it is not useful suggestion for managing COVID. It does not offer protection now, when it is needed, but years from now, when it is accomplished.

Stupidity is not an excuse.

Originally posted by Adam_PoE
What people? Who are they? That reeks of the "some people are saying" game from Fox News.

The now closed coronavirus thread was rife with it. Denial of the science. Saying it was all exaggerated "bro science". Now this thread is rife with it.

Even the image posted is devoid of context. Bariatric patients, for example, can only expect to lose about 100 lbs. in a year. People on calorie-restricted diets can expect to lose only half of that.

Meanwhile, 70% of Americans are overweight, and more than half of them are clinically obese. Expecting overweight people to lose 10–34 lbs. and obese people to lose 35–75 lbs. or more to get to a healthy weight with a normal COVID risk will take them well into the pandemic.

That is why it is not a useful strategy for mitigating risk. Never mind that if losing weight was as easy as putting it on, we would not have such high obesity rates and national health problem to begin with.

It is advice that helps absolutely no one. They do not need to be reminded that they are fat. They know they are fat. They have mirrors

I lost 118lbs in 7 months without gastric band treatment.

It's not advice. It's a statement of 100% fact.