Can Marvels Mightiest take down WF?

Originally posted by DarkSaint85

[b]No-one here is going to survive...and that's the end he wants. So perhaps I am wrong - the wish wasn't parsed as 'only evildoers in the Dark Dimension die', but 'anyone who is here will die'. So when he goes to Earth, which ISN'T in the DD - no-one dies. Which explains why he wanted Cho and Di Cosimo out of the way - if they were present, they would die. If they weren't present, they won't. Simple.

Look, this is all very simple. Show me (as I said at the very start) explicit proof that it was a pure strength feat.

Edit: nor did we see Tyrannus die. So are you saying he too didn't die? [/B]

My statement was about Cho and Di, I made a mistake and typed Rick since they obviously wasn't there. I asked you WHY they were allowed to leave and mentioned the above. You said Hulk wish was for them to die, resurrected and die again which obviously didn't happen there since they only died once.

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Actually, it does equal power here in this specific case. Tyrannus said Jen and Rick were not only absorbing, they were augmenting the radiation. We see them growing in size.

Augmenting = increasing. They were getting more powerful, and at the same time, bigger.

Read the comic lmao. But tell me, when did Rick and Jen die?

Size doesn't equal power in the case of FF who was amplified but still did not grow in size which refutes your argument. So he had enough power in him to conquer a world AND he was amped from eating nukes.

Originally posted by carver9
Size doesn't equal power

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Lmmfao... of course someone would look at it like that.

Originally posted by carver9
Size doesn't equal power in the case of FF who was amplified but still did not grow in size which refutes your argument. So he had enough power in him to conquer a world AND he was amped from eating nukes.

FFF isn't a Hulk, so....ok? The augmentation was directed at Jen and Rick, who grew larger as they got more powerful. Read the comic.

Originally posted by carver9
My statement was about Cho and Di, I made a mistake and typed Rick since they obviously wasn't there. I asked you WHY they were allowed to leave and mentioned the above. You said Hulk wish was for them to die, resurrected and die again which obviously didn't happen there since they only died once.

Erm, they followed FFF back through his portal.

Honestly, come back when you've read the comic. It's only like two or three issues long, the pages in question. I know you usually rely on respect threads but this is ridiculous.

And I know I said and die again, but looking back at my scans, you're right, he only wanted them to die once. YOU ARE ABSOLUTELY CORRECT.

How many times, incidentally, did the planet explode? Once? Like....he wished it?

Uhoh. Looks like you're proving me right.

Originally posted by -Pr-
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Originally posted by DarkSaint85
FFF isn't a Hulk, so....ok? The augmentation was directed at Jen and Rick, who grew larger as they got more powerful. Read the comic.

Erm, they followed FFF back through his portal.

Honestly, come back when you've read the comic. It's only like two or three issues long, the pages in question. I know you usually rely on respect threads but this is ridiculous.

And I know I said and die again, but looking back at my scans, you're right, he only wanted them to die once. YOU ARE ABSOLUTELY CORRECT.

How many times, incidentally, did the planet explode? Once? Like....he wished it?

Uhoh. Looks like you're proving me right.

You don't understand. WBH and Betty, despite being able to melt an entire dimension just with the shockwaves of their punches, and despite being hundreds of times larger than poor Foom, weren't as amped as Foom, who was so powerful he could tank the two of them combined stepping on him when previously they were melting entire dimensions just as collateral.

You mentioned the Hulks not melting him during their attack. I said he didn't melt because he was FAR more amplified when he left the DD. You then mention growth equaling them being more powerful than FFF. I then how TF does size translate to power, especially FFF power. You then come back and say "he isn't a Hulk who grows bigger the more powerful they get". Duuh... like I said, size doesn't translate to power FOR FFF.

How are you not comprehending this? You said the wish was for them to die, come back to life and die again. No, rephrase, you said this wish was for EVERYONE. I don't think you're grasping the concept of this. Let's use Cho vs the wish you mentioned as a wish. Cho was supposed to die, come back to life and die again. What happened on panel? Cho died, came back to life and left. That one thing you claimed as a wish that didn't happen. 2. You said that EVERYONE in the DD was supposed to die based off the claims of a wish. That was a lie since Strange didn't die once. If you need me to quote you yet again on those things, let me know. You said that people blirting out things equals a wish which again is a bold face lie.

Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
You know what big comic companies have in common?

They can be incredibly inconsistent.

You're being stubborn right now. Just give it up.

Mindless One bleeding again, pierced by Clea's spear:

And here it doesn't seem to bleed at all when cleaved in half:

Aaaand here it's bleeding again when beheaded:

Maybe I'm just blind or something but I don't see them bleeding anywhere in that first scan. As for the third one, that looks more like some kind of magma or internal energy rather than blood.

Originally posted by carver9
You mentioned the Hulks not melting him during their attack. I said he didn't melt because he was FAR more amplified when he left the DD. You then mention growth equaling them being more powerful than FFF. I then how TF does size translate to power, especially FFF power. You then come back and say "he isn't a Hulk who grows bigger the more powerful they get". Duuh... like I said, size doesn't translate to power FOR FFF.

How are you not comprehending this? You said the wish was for them to die, come back to life and die again. No, rephrase, you said this wish was for EVERYONE. I don't think you're grasping the concept of this. Let's use Cho vs the wish you mentioned as a wish. Cho was supposed to die, come back to life and die again. What happened on panel? Cho died, came back to life and left. That one thing you claimed as a wish that didn't happen. 2. You said that EVERYONE in the DD was supposed to die based off the claims of a wish. That was a lie since Strange didn't die once. If you need me to quote you yet again on those things, let me know. You said that people blirting out things equals a wish which again is a bold face lie.

Like I said, ok? I was talking about the Hulks, you then bring up FFF lol.

I said everyone who was present..... Strange wasn't present when the planet exploded, lmao. He had left.

Really, your reading comprehension is atrocious.

I said Hulk had a wish. Not every single fricking person who made a comment, lmao.

Not reading your message. I've wasted enough energy

Originally posted by carver9
Not reading your message. I've wasted enough energy

Good man. 😤

Originally posted by Endless Mike
Maybe I'm just blind or something but I don't see them bleeding anywhere in that first scan.

Middle panel:

Originally posted by Endless Mike
As for the third one, that looks more like some kind of magma or internal energy rather than blood.

Which is their blood.

Nobody was saying their blood is the same as ours. That would be ridiculous.

Again, neither one looks like blood, and I was comparing it to the blood on Deadpool's sword.

Marvel can't even make up their minds if MOs are supposed to bleed or not --- the blood itself can vary from artist to artist.

It's 2022 and some artists still make a mistake of coloring Hulk's blood red instead of green.

Mindless Ones are obscure in comparison, so they suffer much worse from such stuff.

Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
Marvel can't even make up their minds if MOs are supposed to bleed or not --- the blood itself can vary from artist to artist.

It's 2022 and some artists still make a mistake of coloring Hulk's blood red instead of green.

Mindless Ones are obscure in comparison, so they suffer much worse from such stuff.

Fair enough.

Also, for your collection, Stilt:

Who is that guy?

The Captain.

https://marvel.fandom.com/wiki/Captain_(Nextwave)_(Earth-616)

IIRC Nextwave is pretty much a comedy/joke series that doesn't take itself that seriously. I heard it's pretty good, though.

It's by Ellis, so yeah. It is canon, I thought - I remember seeing them in handbooks.

Originally posted by Endless Mike
(...) comedy/joke series that doesn't take itself that seriously.

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