Can Marvels Mightiest take down WF?

Originally posted by carver9
Where was it said the wish was specifically for the DD? Show me.

Jen and Rick were NOT guilty monsters. So.....no.

Moreover, you didn't even read my post. I pre-empted your questions - the Wishing Well fulfills your wish in its own way - for example, when Cho wished for help. Here, I will spoonfeed you even further - here is Bruce's cousin and friend dying from a horrible poisoning:

Show me specifically where Bruce wished for this?

Answer: he did not, it was the Wishing Well deciding:

He wished for them to be cured - so the Wishing Well cured them by having Armcheddon poison them to death, which also had the side-effect of curing them. Did he specifically wish for ArmCheddon to poison them to a slow and horrible death? Of course not. But that is how the wish is fulfilled.

Originally posted by carver9
His wish is stated right there on panel. To come back to life. He never wished for them to die. It's literally right there on panel. "They won't die. The magic here resurrect people to fight again and again".

Erm....

No one will survive - this is the end he wants.

Banner is referring to permanent death - they won't die, because they will keep coming back to life. As he said:

This is directly after Umar confirms she does not rule over innocents. She only rules over guilty monsters.

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
The wish was for guilty parties to be affected, which the DD only had:

Jen and Rick were NOT guilty monsters. So.....no.

Moreover, you didn't even read my post. I pre-empted your questions - the Wishing Well fulfills your wish in its own way - for example, when Cho wished for help. Here, I will spoonfeed you even further - here is Bruce's cousin and friend dying from a horrible poisoning:

Show me specifically where Bruce wished for this?

Answer: he did not, it was the Wishing Well deciding:

He wished for them to be cured - so the Wishing Well cured them by having Armcheddon poison them to death, which also had the side-effect of curing them. Did he [b]specifically wish for ArmCheddon to poison them to a slow and horrible death? Of course not. But that is how the wish is fulfilled.

Erm....

No one will survive - this is the end he wants.

Banner is referring to permanent death - they won't die, because they will keep coming back to life. As he said:

This is directly after Umar confirms she does not rule over innocents. She only rules over guilty monsters.

Apart from Cho and Di Cosimo, of course, who aren't. Hence Hulk asking Strange to get them out (not everyone - did you get this wrong?? My scan even shows this - Strange, take the woman and child out of here) [/B]

Cho wasn't guilty as well and he got turned to dust along with other innocents. Strange also would've died if he didn't leave in time. So no, that can't be the wish.

I read your posts and seen your examples. Also, Hulk never died on panel. We saw him alive the entire time but again I ask, show me where it was mentioned the planets destruction as their cause of death. Also, Umar didn't die and she was just as guilty as anyone there.

Again, Cho died, lmao.

So your argument is that the guilty only died even though the innocent as shown here died and admitted they died....

https://ibb.co/mJSBT3R

Originally posted by carver9
Cho wasn't guilty as well and he got turned to dust along with other innocents. Strange also would've died if he didn't leave in time. So no, that can't be the wish.

I read your posts and seen your examples. Also, Hulk never died on panel. We saw him alive the entire time but again I ask, show me where it was mentioned the planets destruction as their cause of death. Also, Umar didn't die and she was just as guilty as anyone there.

Again, Cho died, lmao.

Simple. Umar is more powerful, and wasn't affected by the wishes. Or, she DID die, and was resurrected, it just wasn't shown. I mean, we didn't see ArmCheddon die, does it mean he tanked it? Of course not.

But Hulk DID die. Note his words, which you would have seen had you actually read my post:

WE'RE gonna fight....and WE'RE gonna die. Not, we're gonna fight, and you're gonna die.

And then later, 'it's time to fight, and die, like the monsters we are.

And again:

No-one here is going to survive...and that's the end he wants. So perhaps I am wrong - the wish wasn't parsed as 'only evildoers in the Dark Dimension die', but 'anyone who is here will die'. So when he goes to Earth, which ISN'T in the DD - no-one dies. Which explains why he wanted Cho and Di Cosimo out of the way - if they were present, they would die. If they weren't present, they won't. Simple.

Look, this is all very simple. Show me (as I said at the very start) explicit proof that it was a pure strength feat.

Edit: nor did we see Tyrannus die. So are you saying he too didn't die?

Originally posted by Endless Mike
I wasn't comparing Hulk with Superman's feats, but rather talking about the feat in isolation. As for Deadpool there, it doesn't look like there are any indications of damage aside from the blood on the sword, which is odd because I was under the impression that those things didn't even have blood. But I could be wrong about that detail of their physiology.

You know what big comic companies have in common?

They can be incredibly inconsistent.

You're being stubborn right now. Just give it up.

Mindless One bleeding again, pierced by Clea's spear:

And here it doesn't seem to bleed at all when cleaved in half:

Aaaand here it's bleeding again when beheaded:

So you're retracting statements? I think you're entire argument is wrong. So again I ask, why didn't Hulk and She Hulk along with others melt when they were on earth? We've came to conclusion that innocent lives have nothing to do with this and you have yet to provide solid evidence on Hulk wish being limited to the Dark Dimension.

Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
You know what big comic companies have in common?

They can be incredibly inconsistent.

You're being stubborn right now. Just give it up.

Mindless One bleeding again, pierced by Clea's spear:

And here it doesn't seem to bleed at all when cleaved in half:

Aaaand here it's bleeding again when beheaded:

In heart of monster, Umar didn't have the power to stop them which means they by no means are weak or even close to it.

Originally posted by carver9
So you're retracting statements? I think you're entire argument is wrong. So again I ask, why didn't Hulk and She Hulk along with others melt when they were on earth? We've came to conclusion that innocent lives have nothing to do with this and you have yet to provide solid evidence on Hulk wish being limited to the Dark Dimension.

The statement from Strange is clear. No one here is going to survive. This is the end he wants.

Here = Dark Dimension. Betty and Hulk didn't melt each other on Earth because they couldn't. It's nothing to solely do with strength, otherwise they would've melted each other easily - which has been my argument this entire time. The wishes - or how they were parsed - is what destroyed the planet and everyone on it.

You, on the other hand, have provided zero proof it's a pure strength feat. And only sit back and nitpick what I provide, rather than prove your statement.

Also, wishing wells doesn't work just by people screaming out things or Strange would've fell over dead here but he didn't...

https://ibb.co/vQMd8k8

Weak or not, bleeding or not, they are far from invulnerable and get damaged very often.

Even the bootleg Cap (Captain Midlands) can do it:

Though his shield possibly contains some anti-magic element?

So I'll post Pete Wisdom instead:

Pete never did anywhere close this kind of damage to Colossus.

I can do it all day 🙂

And if Abhi on his War Elephant joins me, then we can do it all week.

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
The statement from Strange is clear. No one here is going to survive. This is the end he wants.

Here = Dark Dimension. Betty and Hulk didn't melt each other on Earth because they couldn't. It's nothing to solely do with strength, otherwise they would've melted each other easily - which has been my argument this entire time. The wishes - or how they were parsed - is what destroyed the planet and everyone on it.

You, on the other hand, have provided zero proof it's a pure strength feat. And only sit back and nitpick what I provide, rather than prove your statement.

STRANGE said that but BANNER said his wish was primarily for everyone to be revived. Of course no one will survive the output Hulk dished out.

Why did it take She Hulk and Hulk to collide for the planet to go boom? Why didn't it just blow up without them?

Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
Weak or not, bleeding or not, they are far from invulnerable and get damaged very often.

Even the bootleg Cap (Captain Midlands) can do it:

I can do it all day 🙂

And if Abhi on his War Elephant joins me, then we can do it all week.

Inconsistencies. I can post Wolverine getting dropped by things less than Colossus strength but when we look at the entirety of his showings, he can hang with high class 100 beings with no issues. Again, in that comic, Umar couldn't stop them and it was stated on panel that the Mindless Ones is the Dark Dimension greatest enemies...

https://ibb.co/0VVmTtz

Is this another World War Carver?

Originally posted by carver9
Also, wishing wells doesn't work just by people screaming out things or Strange would've fell over dead here but he didn't...

https://ibb.co/vQMd8k8

So you're saying the wishing well doesn't have a explicit 1:1 command. Thanks

Edit: did she still have wishing power there?

Strange mentions the Mindless Ones won't be stopped unless ALL of them combine their power.

https://ibb.co/2qzrvzY

How they are inconsistencies? 😂

Mindless Ones are fodder. Always have been. Impressive at first, degraded with each next decade.

Stormtroopers were said to be formidable at first, too vin

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
So you're saying the wishing well doesn't have a explicit 1:1 command. Thanks

Umar did... 😕 Did you not read the scan

https://ibb.co/9b0XkJW

Originally posted by carver9
STRANGE said that but BANNER said his wish was primarily for everyone to be revived. Of course no one will survive the output Hulk dished out.

Why did it take She Hulk and Hulk to collide for the planet to go boom? Why didn't it just blow up without them?

Hulk said they were all going to die. Yes or no?

Originally posted by carver9
Umar did... 😕 Did you not read the scan

https://ibb.co/9b0XkJW

Used up.

Edit: or, like Tyrannus, she realised the dangers and stopped wishing.

Either way, please provide explicit proof he used pure strength, which has been my initial request this entire time.

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Hulk said they were all going to die. Yes or no?

Screaming out sh** doesn't mean a wish is made. Umar was hit by the well and absolutely zero happened. This applies to other scenes as well. Banner mentioned what his wish was, yes or no?