Anyway, Carver's mental gymnastics aside. The comic spefically stated Supergirl's powers were fully realized right before she fought Superman
https://ibb.co/P9KgF0w
https://ibb.co/VWd9cV6
https://ibb.co/CKf18q5
We also have Shazam outright stated he got a power-ups.
https://ibb.co/MfjJQZ5
Originally posted by light889
It is clearly shown in the comic. And i find it funny that certain Superman fans act like he is the only hero that holds back. LOL like get real. The guy is nothing special in that regard. Most heroes hold back consstantly. They don't fight with all they got in every battle they are in. Because of moral codes and all that.
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Originally posted by carver9
Supergirl admits she improved from the change that happened due to kryptonite. You all are trying to hard and looking bad as a result...
😆 I don't know if she was actually amped or not, but f uck, that's not what the comic said.
Originally posted by abhilegend
Carter can't read lol
He can only look at the pretty pictures. And even then sometimes he can't even manage that.
Originally posted by carver9
Before Supergirl turned into that monster she considered herself perfect. In the scan I posted, she comments that she IMPROVED on perfection. On the body she already considered perfect.
I neither trust your honesty nor reading comprehension that you're right, so I'll have to read it for myself.
And ever going to answer my question?
Originally posted by DarkSaint85
I think abhi is saying fine, WW was holding back...But her speed and durability shouldn't be affected. She still got tagged, right? Did she want to be tagged? If yes, then...ok. if no, then why would holding back affect her speed?
Then once she got tagged, did it hurt her? You can't 'hold back' your durability.
A lot of characters get tagged. Even characters with Super speed get tagged by others that don't have super speeed at times. Including Superman. And Diana was capable of reacting to and even dodging SG in that fight. At one time SG tried to blitz, Diana dodged her.
But let's see the context of the whole thing.
Diana arrives in issue 38.
Diana tries to talk to her. Land her a hand and SG takes the opportunity to suckerpunch her.
Then she outfights kara and ties her up with the lasso.
Issue 39. The lasso calms Kara for a moment. So Diana gets close to talk to her and help her. Saying Superman sent her to help Kara. And SG once again takes the opportunity to suckerpunch Diana. And what does Diana do? Attack her? No. Once again she tries to talk to SG and says she is here to help her not to fight her. Then SG attacks again, and Diana is seen being perfectly capable of stopping her attack. Then the robots appeared and SG is weakened. Once again Diana tells SG that she is not SG's enemy, and that she did not come here looking for a fight with SG. Then WW goes to fight the robots. And then by the end of that issue. SG transforms again. And now she says she is no longer affected by kryptonite. That she moved beyond that weakness aka being stronger than before. And what happens after all of this? well issue 40 where again Diana says she doesn't want to fight her. She dodges SG's blitz and picks up the kryptonite to throw it away. And SG takes the opportunity to attack WW at that moment, arguing with Diana for letting her guard down like that. And what does Diana do? Tell her that no matter what form she takes, Kara is not her enemy. Then Diana tells her to talk to her intead of fighting. She gets close to Kara, tries to talk to kara and yet again. Kara suckerpunches Diana when Diana was with her guard down trying to talk to her. And what does Diana do? Attack SG with agressiveness? No. She keeps talking to SG and tells her that she doesn't fight children. To which SG replies i don't need you to fight back. And keeps on attacking a Diana that never attempted to fight back. And then Krypto arrives. Sorry but the context clearly proves that Diana was holding back. and Kara was even more ampede and agressve by the end after she transformed again by the end of issue 39.
Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Ok.But again, holding back shouldn't mean you get hit, and once you're hit, holding back shouldn't affect your durability.
Assuming you're fast and durable.
An amped SG should have the raw power to hurt WW. So the durability topic was never up for debate. Speed wise. Diana was able to react, keep up and even dodge SG during certain portions of the battle. There were also times where she got tagged. Sure. Like it happens to all super heroes including Superman. The point is that Diana never fought Kara with all she got. She left her guard down and got suckerpunched multiple times. A Diana fighting back with her all, would be different obviously than a Diana holding back and mostly only trying to talk. So there is not enough evidence to say amped dark SG is out of WW's league to handle. That was my point. I was never claiming that WW was as strong as Superman.
Different scenario, as I've read the comic 😂
There, Batman's plan was to delay/engage Damage. So Superman had to get tagged 🙂
But then, didn't you use to argue that Damage was super fast, based on his showings against WW?
Edit: but good that you're replying here. Where's the proof on your monkey? I've been asking that question for days, so let's answer that first. You know I'll keep on with the question.
Originally posted by light889
A lot of characters get tagged. Even characters with Super speed get tagged by others that don't have super speeed at times. Including Superman. And Diana was capable of reacting to and even dodging SG in that fight. At one time SG tried to blitz, Diana dodged her.But let's see the context of the whole thing.
Diana arrives in issue 38.
Diana tries to talk to her. Land her a hand and SG takes the opportunity to suckerpunch her.
Then she outfights kara and ties her up with the lasso.
Issue 39. The lasso calms Kara for a moment. So Diana gets close to talk to her and help her. Saying Superman sent her to help Kara. And SG once again takes the opportunity to suckerpunch Diana. And what does Diana do? Attack her? No. Once again she tries to talk to SG and says she is here to help her not to fight her. Then SG attacks again, and Diana is seen being perfectly capable of stopping her attack. Then the robots appeared and SG is weakened. Once again Diana tells SG that she is not SG's enemy, and that she did not come here looking for a fight with SG. Then WW goes to fight the robots. And then by the end of that issue. SG transforms again. And now she says she is no longer affected by kryptonite. That she moved beyond that weakness aka being stronger than before. And what happens after all of this? well issue 40 where again Diana says she doesn't want to fight her. She dodges SG's blitz and picks up the kryptonite to throw it away. And SG takes the opportunity to attack WW at that moment, arguing with Diana for letting her guard down like that. And what does Diana do? Tell her that no matter what form she takes, Kara is not her enemy. Then Diana tells her to talk to her intead of fighting. She gets close to Kara, tries to talk to kara and yet again. Kara suckerpunches Diana when Diana was with her guard down trying to talk to her. And what does Diana do? Attack SG with agressiveness? No. She keeps talking to SG and tells her that she doesn't fight children. To which SG replies i don't need you to fight back. And keeps on attacking a Diana that never attempted to fight back. And then Krypto arrives. Sorry but the context clearly proves that Diana was holding back. and Kara was even more ampede and agressve by the end after she transformed again by the end of issue 39.
Nvr disappointed.
Originally posted by abhilegend
What's this wall of text supposed to be? Supergirl suddenly overcame kryptonite weakness because?Nvr disappointed.
That's what she said after she transformed. And this wall of text goes to provide context that proves that Diana was indeed holding back. She never went all out against SG. And still did pretty well during the times she wasn't literally letting her guard down and getting suckerpunched by SG.
Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Different scenario, as I've read the comic 😂There, Batman's plan was to delay/engage Damage. So Superman had to get tagged 🙂
But then, didn't you use to argue that Damage was super fast, based on his showings against WW?
Edit: but good that you're replying here. Where's the proof on your monkey? I've been asking that question for days, so let's answer that first. You know I'll keep on with the question.
Since when should WW be impossible for an amped SG to tag? Superman gets tagged a lot too. And holding back factor is always brought up by his fans.