If Classic Odin is 100 what about these guys

Started by abhilegend5 pages

Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
His classic pink costume puts him on par with Pink Shirt Vegeta, you fool!!!!!

Again good point.

mmm

Well I was going by implied power mostly.

Originally posted by Endless Mike
Well I was going by implied power mostly.

How's Monarch/Neron/Trigon less powerful than Odin.

Originally posted by abhilegend
How's Monarch/Neron/Trigon less powerful than Odin.

Not sure about Neron. From what I can recall aside from his hell has infinite realities, he didn't do much. I can't say I'm familiar with Neron though

Originally posted by abhilegend
How's Monarch/Neron/Trigon less powerful than Odin.

I was basing Monarch on the Captain Atom version seen in Countdown. I don't see Odin losing to SBP.

Neron seems to job a lot, although I admit I'm not familiar with his best feats.

I know that Trigon destroyed his home planet at age 6 and conquered his home dimension, but IIRC he was considered a punk compared to GDS Darkseid.

Originally posted by abhilegend
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Only Surtur and Cyttorak are less powerful in the list.

Trigon is a beast compared to Odin. Most of these guys are well above Odin unless Asgardian cosmology is larger than it appears to be? Odin after all shook the very cosmos of his native reality.

Originally posted by Endless Mike
I was basing Monarch on the Captain Atom version seen in Countdown. I don't see Odin losing to SBP.

Well, SBP did beat Darkest Knight, but he also has some low showings( Teen Titans and possibly the combined lightning power of Shazam and Black Adam) and he not always operates at the level that can beat someone who is multiversal in power.

Granted, Black Adam seemingly get a push in power levels recently, based on his lightning could ko the Pariah who is more powerful than true Darkseid or Empty Hand. So the latter possibly isn't a low showing

Originally posted by qwertyuiop1998
Well, SBP did beat Darkest Knight,

What? He failed. Wonder Woman defeated him.

- Dark Nights: Death Metal: The Secret Origin

- Dark Nights: Death-Metal #7

Originally posted by Astner
What?

- Dark Nights: Death Metal: The Secret Origin

Hmm, yeah, right before the scans you posted, SBP beats Darkest Knight makes DK try to convince SBP to join him
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It actually spelled out in the comic

And the comic also emphasizes/implies they are more or less at the same level

Originally posted by abhilegend
Neron and Trigon are definitely more powerful than Odin.

Wasn't Trigon killed by Bizarro?

- Red Hood and the Outlaws (2016) #46

Originally posted by qwertyuiop1998
Hmm, yeah, right before the scans you posted, SBP beats Darkest Knight makes DK try to convince SBP to join him
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It actually spelled out in the comic

And the comic also emphasizes/implies they are more or less at the same level


What exactly is Superboy Prime's bluster supposed to prove? They only fought once. Superboy Prime didn't survive, Batman Who Laughs did.

Where they peers? Maybe. But Superboy Prime lost that fight.

Originally posted by Astner
Wasn't Trigon killed by Bizarro?

- Red Hood and the Outlaws (2016) #46

I was going to reference this. Got defeated by AND killed by a Herald. Laughable.

Originally posted by Astner
What exactly is Superboy Prime's bluster supposed to prove? They only fought once. Superboy Prime didn't survive, Batman Who Laughs did.

Where they peers? Maybe. But Superboy Prime lost that fight.


If there is only SBP's bluster, you maybe have a point. But there are also the fact

1) SBP could take DK's power at that moment, unless you want to argue DK deliberately wanted SBP to take his power?

2) After SBP put DK down, DK admitted both of them can't destroy each other and trying to bargain with SBP. And when SBP refused DK's offer, DK couldn't do anything but watch SBP punch him, destroying his dark worlds/realities. Again, unless if you want to argue DK deliberately wanted SBP to destroy his dark worlds, I don't see this isn't a proof that DK is under disadvantage/passive position here

Thus, we have 3 references for the fight between SBP and DK. 1) SBP's own words, I admit, it is not good enough. but plus 2,3? Both indicate SBP has the upper hand here.

Also, I don't think who survived( which is also arguable) at the end == who is a winner in a fight

Originally posted by carver9
Mordru is the only one that "probably" matches Odin, the rest falls below.

Originally posted by Endless Mike
I was basing Monarch on the Captain Atom version seen in Countdown. I don't see Odin losing to SBP.

Neron seems to job a lot, although I admit I'm not familiar with his best feats.

I know that Trigon destroyed his home planet at age 6 and conquered his home dimension, but IIRC he was considered a punk compared to GDS Darkseid.

This is a post straight out of 2012

Originally posted by carver9
I was going to reference this. Got defeated by AND killed by a Herald. Laughable.

Yet, when Batman fights WW it doesn't mean she's street level. Curious.

Originally posted by Astner
Wasn't Trigon killed by Bizarro?

- Red Hood and the Outlaws (2016) #46


Wasn't Odin enslaved by space ants?

How powerful were those space ants?

Each ant is 10 times stronger than world breaker hulk

Originally posted by carver9
How powerful were those space ants?

Irrelevant.

For you to have a point, they have to be skyfather and above. Your knee jerk reaction to me and my post, where you try to argue just because it's me, is wrong.

You're basically saying that Odin has no low showings whatsoever. Is that really so?
Trigon having a low showing, against Bizarro (so not quite THAT low), should then be applied to both sides. Does Odin have low showings? I bet they're lower than losing to Bizarro.