Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Bad example. Keep it to the characters in the thread.Like current Thor Vs a rock from random aliens
These are perfect examples. No matter how you try to paint intellect as a factor here, a behind the back punch is the same. Period. I proved my point and I'm done with the topic.
Originally posted by DarkSaint85
I'm saying cosmic Thor was more powerful, yet got put in the exact same position as Thanos did.Except one was from a rock and one was from Abstract tier Hulk. We can't ignore showings right? Or do we. Let me know.
Current Thor was blocked by meta tier Susan Storm, despite being bloodlusted 😂
Based off fts, Cosmic Thor isn't more powerful than current Thor.
Lmmfao at abstract Hulk. I see what you're doing. The rock just tripped Thor up, it did absolutely nothing. Hulk talking to Thanos, Thanos turning his head to look at Hulk and getting dropped afterwards is just, different. Also, let's not forget Thanos enduring a surprise attack from Thor who hit him in the face with a full fledge hammer hit.
I thought we have come to the conclusion that Susan is a monster. Isn't this the same person who blocked an all out sentry attack who was teamed with the entirety of the cancer verse? Heck, the lady has blocked attacks from Celestials and Galactus. She still sucks.
Originally posted by carver9
I agree, H1... that's why Doomsday should've easily won this fight based off how many times Superman back stabbed him... let's not even mention the backstab that happened to HP Doomsday.
Bad example—no damage was done to Doomsday until the very end of the comic, when Superman hurt him for the first time. After that, it was all Superman with no other help. If any damage had been done to Doomsday prior that contributed to Superman's victory, then Superman didn't win fair and square. You think I'm going to backtrack my argument just because it involves Superman? I'm a fair person, even if it means throwing Superman under the bus.
So you think
Spoiler:How is that a great win for Hulk?
being cheap-shotted from behind and then stabbed in the head/neck with a sword by someone else doesn't contribute to Hulk winning?
Originally posted by carver9
So Doomsday being backstabbed at least 9 times from Superman doesn't count because Superman wasn't strong enough to hurt Doomsday but Hulk punch in the back do count because Hulk was strong enough to hurt Thanos? 🤣🤣🤣🤣This is why I call you a troll.
Now you are trolling Carv. Stop it please.
I'm primarily talking about the assistance from the other being. Did you read what I said about the other being phucking Thanos up?
Hulk punching Thanos in the back isn't a major issue if Thanos would have been allowed to recuperate.
I'm more than willing to throw Superman's arse under the bus. You think I won't?
Originally posted by h1a8
Now you are trolling Carv. Stop it please.I'm primarily talking about the assistance from the other being. Did you read what I said about the other being phucking Thanos up?
Hulk punching Thanos in the back isn't a major issue if Thanos would have been allowed to recuperate.
I'm more than willing to throw Superman's arse under the bus. You think I won't?
She came from the woods, walked up to Thanos with her sword out and stabbed him. He was so out of it from Hulk punch that he couldn't defend himself.
Now let's take her out of the picture and replace her with Hulk. Hulk punch him, Thanos is to weak from the punch to defend himself (just like the lady with the sword). Hulk mounts Thanos and punch his lights out. All we are doing is replacing Hulk (who was still at 100%) with the lady.
Your post is dumb. Ok
Originally posted by h1a8
Bad example—no damage was done to Doomsday until the very end of the comic, when Superman hurt him for the first time. After that, it was all Superman with no other help. If any damage had been done to Doomsday prior that contributed to Superman's victory, then Superman didn't win fair and square. You think I'm going to backtrack my argument just because it involves Superman? I'm a fair person, even if it means throwing Superman under the bus.So you think
Spoiler:How is that a great win for Hulk?
being cheap-shotted from behind and then stabbed in the head/neck with a sword by someone else doesn't contribute to Hulk winning?
To answer your question about the most recent Hulk vs Thanos fight, the true winner between these two, remains inconclusive. I noted particularly that Thanos appeared to fight OOC as well, by mainly mixing it up with the Hulk on a purely pugilistic level, and mostly forsaking his other attacks.
The Hulk of present however, isn't exactly a great measuring stick for Thor. Unless we ignore him having had his skull cracked by the same guy that slugged it out with Thanos recently. That same guy that I mention is the Hulk if anyone missed that.
Thanos has multiverse levels of resistance to energy attacks as well, if we consider what he physically resisted to obtain the regulator.
The question remains on whether or not Thor with the new addition of his Zeus amp would be able to fry Thanos? What he inherited from Odin alone may have been enough to defeat Thanos, or seriously push him. We still have no means of providing strong evidence that supports Thor being the last one standing in an end all fight against Thanos.
Is Worldship Hulk a poor measuring stick? It places the Hulk in an AI simulation operating in a real world scenario. The answer to this, ultimately changes how we could judge the outcome of this fight.
I personally have trouble believing that even with Zeus adding to his electric energy attacks, that he'd be able to bring Thanos down if going that route. Physically? I still have Thanos ahead. Thanos would snap Hyperion's neck, while Thor has a very good chance of being KO"d by him.
This one's a rough one.
Originally posted by carver9
She came from the woods, walked up to Thanos with her sword out and stabbed him. He was so out of it from Hulk punch that he couldn't defend himself.Now let's take her out of the picture and replace her with Hulk. Hulk punch him, Thanos is to weak from the punch to defend himself (just like the lady with the sword). Hulk mounts Thanos and punch his lights out. All we are doing is replacing Hulk (who was still at 100%) with the lady.
Your post is dumb. Ok
Thanos was not only coherent and talking before he was stabbed, but it's also worth noting that in fiction, characters have often recovered from being stunned by a serious blow and also DURING a series of blows. This fight is far from conclusive.
Additionally, it was a cheap shot, which naturally amplifies the stun effect.
Originally posted by h1a8
Thanos was not only coherent and talking before he was stabbed, but it's also worth noting that in fiction, characters have often recovered from being stunned by a serious blow and also DURING a series of blows. This fight is far from conclusive.Additionally, it was a cheap shot, which naturally amplifies the stun effect.
Well, this time he didn't recover. He couldn't do shit. He was so out of it that a ninja was able to casually walk up to him and stab him. Hulk who was still at 100% could've done far worse (and he did at the end). It wasn't a cheap shot. When you're in a fight, cheap shots doesn't exist.
Im going to ask again H1... Doomsday attention was on Lois and Superman punched him in the back. Is this a cheap shot, yes or no?
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Originally posted by carver9
Well, this time he didn't recover. He couldn't do shit. He was so out of it that a ninja was able to casually walk up to him and stab him. Hulk who was still at 100% could've done far worse (and he did at the end). It wasn't a cheap shot. When you're in a fight, cheap shots doesn't exist.
You ignored what I said. Learn to debate. Ignoring what someone said while giving your arguments is trolling. You must address what the other member's argument IN ADDITION to giving further arguments.
Address these points:
1. Characters have often recovered from being stunned by a serious blow DURING a follow up series of blows. Stunning an opponent is not an automatic win. Otherwise, my "combo to ko" principal is valid here on kmc.
2. It was a cheap shot, which naturally amplifies the stun effect. Superman hitting DD in the back while he wasn't looking is also a cheapshot in terms of a legit 1 on 1 fight.
3. Thanos was fully coherent after the back attack. He was engaged in conversation. It was extremely possible for him to fully recuperate.
Gotcha. I'm glad you agreed about Superman as well. So based off your opinion, Superman vs Doomsday and Hulk vs Thanos are not wins for the character and it do not count. I'll remember this going forward from you. Now, since I know Superman has a number of fights where he flies behind someone punching them, he's a pro at it. Now all I need to do is gather those fights and dismiss them from his record. You're so helpful H1.
Originally posted by carver9
Gotcha. I'm glad you agreed about Superman as well. So based off your opinion, Superman vs Doomsday and Hulk vs Thanos are not wins for the character and it do not count. I'll remember this going forward from you. Now, since I know Superman has a number of fights where he flies behind someone punching them, he's a pro at it. Now all I need to do is gather those fights and dismiss them from his record. You're so helpful H1.
I have never argued ABC logic Carv. Not my style. I don't care if Joe Blow beats Superman or Superman beats Joe Blow. I don't argue that way. You should know this. I actually hate ABC logic because it's stupid most of the time.
Also, i said if a cheapshot causes a stun effect that leads to the stunned character losing then the fight isn't legit in determining who would actually win. If it doesn't or if the stunned character makes a full recovery then the fight is still legit. In DOS, Superman, cheapshot or not, didn't hurt DD until the very end.
And your argument is pretty dumb, H1. A cheap shot is a cheap shot. Kf your going to argue against it, then be consistent. I don't consider anything a cheap shot if the person is in a fight. He had enough time to turn his head due to Hulk speaking to him before the punch. The same can't be said in the 9 instances Superman punched Doomsday in the back. Like I said, Superman is known for it in most of his fights. Example...
If we are looking at things like this as evidence of fights, we have a lot of exclusions we need to do (he even surprised attacked World Forger). You're just a troll, H1. This discussion is over.
