Originally posted by MrMindNot according to that fight and writer's intent.
there's two problem in your postabhi think thano is almost as powerful as odin which isn't true at all at that time/era.
if odin is 100, thanos would be 50 at best based on how the fight went.
thanos was one blast away from being finished.
Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
Who said Prime was weakened? He was free from the SF and had been free for a minute.
The armor was only providing him part of his powers. Next time we see him he ditches the armor and says I'm nearly at full power now.
Conner died from the AM machine exploding, not Prime.
Anyways, no point in going back and forth.
Yes, because you picked up the stupidest point possible.
Originally posted by Smurph
If Odin made an outright admission, there would be no need to argue about the writer's implied message.Do you know what "outright" means?
It's incredibly difficult to argue with someone blinded by bias—I know because I used to be that way. But now, I see things differently. Just use your common sense. There's a reason why nearly everyone who read the comic believes that Odin was implying Thanos was close to him in power, though Odin had the edge.
The phrase "similar power reserve" is crucial in planting this idea in the reader's mind.
The fact that Thanos withstood Odin's full might for such a long time speaks volumes. A character with only 50% of Odin's power couldn't manage that; it takes someone at 95% or above to pull off a feat like that.
It's about the writer's intent and applying some common sense.
There's a reason why nearly everyone who read the comic believes that Odin was implying Thanos was close to him in power
Who is "nearly everyone"? mmm
Does "nearly everyone" include any of these people:
Originally posted by Juntai
At least in theory Odins power alone should have been more than sufficient, as Odin himself seemed to perceive Thanos as more of a nuisance than anything else.Let’s wait a little longer and see what this upgrade does though.
Originally posted by NemeBro
Odin pretty clearly states that while the reserves both tap into are similarly nearly limitless, Odin's being of a divine nature makes his power intrinsically superior to Thanos' and is the reason Thanos has no chance in their fight.It was a backhanded compliment to Thanos that still expressed conviction in the Mad Titan's inferiority.
Originally posted by Smurph
He doesn't say that Thanos's energies are "nearly as limitless as his own". He says they each tap into nearly limitless power sources. He doesn't say which is bigger.He says the quality of Thanos' power is intrinsically inferior. That's it.
Originally posted by leonidas
lol of course he doesn't accept that because odin never said it. even by your own standards this is blatant lie man. 😂you tap a source of power similar to mine DOES NOT MEAN you're nearly as powerful as me. i mean wt actual f?
he taps an infinite well of power isn't the important part--the BUT that follows is. it isn't complicated.
thanos's refutation was shown to be meaningless in the book as most can readily see. in the end his refutation proved as meaningless as yours has been in this thread lol
Originally posted by carver9
He said he is CONNECTED to a similar reserve. That do not mean they pull the same amount of power from this source. He even states this right after that statement. His power is divine, etc...That statement is far away from meaning they are equals.
Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
I’ll put this into a context Abhi understands.Both Superboy Prime and Superboy (Conner) get their physical powers from the Sun. Is Conner nearly as powerful as Prime?
Conner was even able to put up a fight against Prime for many pages.
Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Look, both carver and I draw our power from the same source of burgers.We are NOT the same
Originally posted by Galan007
Odin only stated that the respective power-sources that he and Thanos had access to were similar in the sense that they are both near-limitless.The depth to which they could each draw upon said power-sources is an entirely different discussion, however... And Odin made no direct comparisons in that regard.
Originally posted by ODG
abhilegend's misinterpretation is "astounding" ... for him? We are talking about abhilegend, right?No need to lie in service of congeniality. Call it how you see it. ahah
Originally posted by MrMind
there's two problem in your postabhi think thano is almost as powerful as odin which isn't true at all at that time/era.
if odin is 100, thanos would be 50 at best based on how the fight went.
thanos was one blast away from being finished.
Originally posted by batdude123
The only thing that fight proved was that Thanos can take a hell of an ass beating.
Originally posted by Smurph
"Nearly everyone"? mmmWho is "nearly everyone"? mmm
Does "nearly everyone" include any of these people:
Yes even those people. Notice I said, when we first read the comic.
When I read the comic I thought it was PIS. But I never questioned the writer's intent (because it was clear as day).
Good luck believing that someone 50% as powerful can wade through the Odin's full might amplified by Gungnir for hours without any visible damage.
You think a writer will have a 50 percenter do that in his mind?
Odin being twice as powerful as Thanos couldn't even cause ANY damage to Thanos without the use of Gungnir. Thanos was basically getting hit with a flashlight beam until Odin pulled out Gungnir.
No common sense these days.
Originally posted by h1a8
Yes even those people. Notice I said, when we first read the comic.
When I read the comic I thought it was PIS. But I never questioned the writer's intent (because it was clear as day).Good luck believing that someone 50% as powerful can wade through the Odin's full might amplified by Gungnir for hours without any visible damage.
You think a writer will have a 50 percenter do that in his mind?
Odin being twice as powerful as Thanos couldn't even cause ANY damage to Thanos without the use of Gungnir. Thanos was basically getting hit with a flashlight beam until Odin pulled out Gungnir.No common sense these days.
Originally posted by darthgoober
Durability and overall powerlevel are no more synonymous than travel and reflex speed. Storm can lay waste to a city without breaking a sweat but be taken out by a stray bullet. From what I understand that guy Brit can shake off damn near anything but can't match someone like Jubilee in power output. Some people punch outside their weight class, some take punches outside their weight class.
Thanos' power output nearly matches his durability—he's far from a butterball-like character. Thanos has inflicted damage on a physically equal clone of himself, Galactus, and other immensely powerful beings. His track record of power output is impressive, and anyone familiar with Thanos' history knows that his power output is on par with his durability.
But my main point concerns the writer's intent. The only reason Odin stated, "I am connected to a SIMILAR reserve," is because the writer wanted us, the readers, to believe that Odin and Thanos are close in power. Otherwise, the writer would be deliberately misleading us.
Here's a summary of the evidence supporting the writer's intent:
1. Thanos effortlessly withstood Odin's blasts at the start of their confrontation. Odin might as well have been shining a flashlight on him for all the good it did. This scene was written to emphasize that Thanos is no pushover and that Odin has some competition.
2. Odin had to brace himself against Thanos' full energy blasts.
3. Odin said, "You tap into a nearly limitless power source, as I am connected to a SIMILAR reserve." This strongly implies Thanos' significant power output, especially since we know Thanos doesn't draw external power to fuel his durability.
4. Odin had to summon Gungnir because his blasts weren't having much, if any, effect on Thanos. He needed to amplify his power to contend with Thanos, underscoring that Thanos is no lightweight and most definitely a peer to him.
5. Thanos fought/waded through Gungnir-amped Odin blasts and still managed to reach Odin and grapple with him over Gungnir. This clearly demonstrates that Thanos is in Odin's vicinity of power.
I'm not claiming that Thanos is equal to Odin in power, but the writer portrayed him to be within 5-10% of Odin's power. My argument focuses solely on that particular writer's intent. We can argue that Odin is significantly more powerful than Thanos based on their overall comic history of feats. We could even argue that this was a low showing for Odin or PIS. That would be more logical than the absurd "Thanos is a butterball-like character" theory.
Originally posted by darthgoober👆
Durability and overall powerlevel are no more synonymous than travel and reflex speed. Storm can lay waste to a city without breaking a sweat but be taken out by a stray bullet. From what I understand that guy Brit can shake off damn near anything but can't match someone like Jubilee in power output. Some people punch outside their weight class, some take punches outside their weight class.
For another parallel, h1's ability to output words dwarfs his ability to understand words.
Originally posted by carver9
Stoic, did you see Hulk and Thanos latest fight?
Spoiler:
Decent fight. I didn't like where they had Hulk cheapshot Thanos in the back. Then they had Thanos being stabbed by a sword before Hulk put him down. Wish Hulk could have won fair and square. Would have been a nice victory.
