Abortion

The thing is, as Yerrs said, as a morning after thing it IS a shit thing to do.

BUT, that's going to happen. It is absolutely ridiculous to put limitations on people who genuinely want an abortion, aware of other choices or not, on account of the idiots.

People drive cars when drunk, will continue to. You won't ban cars. People will continue to stab people, you're not going to ban knives. People will continue to abuse abortions, I don't see why they should be banned on account of those irresponsible people.

It irks me, this whole "Well I care no matter what", "I wanna make them aware of choices" crap. Get over yourself, seriously. You don't have to right to get involved in someone elses personal issues. I've said it before and I'll say it again:

You have chose to care about everyone. That's your problem. Why should I suffer because you've chosen to care about me against my will? I don't want you to. Others feel the same. If you manage to pressure a woman into not having the abortion, not only are you being hypocritical but you're being selfish.

You can't say "Well this is what I believe and I'm allowed to" then expect everyone else to readily accept yours.

-AC

abortion I believe is a very serious topic. I believe its a very wrong thing to do because its not the babys fault that the parents were so horny and didnt think about using protection. If they dont want to take care of the baby just put it up for adoption. But sometimes I do believe its a good thing because some moms just have babys after baby after baby and they dont take good care of them but still I know its a wrong thing to do. never kill a innocent child and if you ever think of aborting it just put it up for adoption or something...

It's a "very serious" topic, so you come in with a sheer ignorant, illinformed and downright idiotic comment such as "It's not the baby's fault that the parents were so horny and didn't think about using protection"?

Some people...

-AC

Originally posted by Alpha Centauri
It's a "very serious" topic, so you come in with a sheer ignorant, illinformed and downright idiotic comment such as "It's not the baby's fault that the parents were so horny and didn't think about using protection"?

Some people...

-AC

Well he does have point.

If you have sex.. Then you should be prepared to have children.

Originally posted by vaya_the_elf
Well he does have point.

If you have sex.. Then you should be prepared to have children.

You couldn't be more right....and besides if you do get pregnant there are places you can go to finish out your pregnancy and deliver the child to give it up for adoption....No one back home is the wiser....

Originally posted by vaya_the_elf
Well he does have point.

If you have sex.. Then you should be prepared to have children.

Yes well....no...its not a living being.....much less a human...you have to see the difference.

Originally posted by Bardock42
Yes well....no...its not a living being.....much less a human...you have to see the difference.

Is too....All cells are living.

Originally posted by vaya_the_elf
Well he does have point.

If you have sex.. Then you should be prepared to have children.

thanx

Originally posted by debbiejo
Is too....All cells are living.

What kind of stupid definition of living is that, so you mean a piece of my skin is a living thing now?....well let me give you the answer....NO

A fetus is nothing more than the part of a womans body, yes it could live but it doesn't.....
And it is a very big responsibility and risk for the women so why should she keep it if she doesn't want it.

Originally posted by Bardock42
What kind of stupid definition of living is that, so you mean a piece of my skin is a living thing now?....well let me give you the answer....NO

A fetus is nothing more than the part of a womans body, yes it could live but it doesn't.....
And it is a very big responsibility and risk for the women so why should she keep it if she doesn't want it.

If it's a risk then that is another topic.....and yes they have nerves that feel even more so than a fully developed child...they feel even more pain and are even more sensitive to it....they are alive.....

Originally posted by Bardock42
Yes well....no...its not a living being.....much less a human...you have to see the difference.

The egg and sperm are both a live and together have the DNA of a human. Try combining a dead egg and sperm together and see what you get.

Originally posted by vaya_the_elf
Well he does have point.

If you have sex.. Then you should be prepared to have children.

No, not at all. You couldn't actually be more wrong.

If you have sex without any contraception, you should be prepared to have pregnancy to deal with (Deal with as in, how you see fit). Not actually have the kid.

If you have sex with contraception, and you still fall victim to pregnancy, then you can't exactly be prepared. You tried to stop it and it happened.

What a blind comment.

Originally posted by debbiejo
You couldn't be more right....and besides if you do get pregnant there are places you can go to finish out your pregnancy and deliver the child to give it up for adoption....No one back home is the wiser....

Yeah, and if they choose to do that, fine.

But if they choose abortion first and foremost, that's fine aswell. You have to realise that some people probably don't want some kid turning up in the later years of their life that they didn't want saying "Why did you put me up for adoption?". It causes damage and I've seen it happen.

If a woman wants abortion, she has the right to do so.

And once again I find myself repeating the point that none of you are getting: What a woman does with her body, her uterus, her bunch of cells and her life, is her business. Not yours. Don't try to make it your business, because it is none.

Remember Vaya, when you said "Don't like what I post? Don't read it."? Remember that?

Here's something for you: If you don't like abortion, don't have one and don't get involved.

And if your reply to that is "Well I choose to get involved." Then you are wrong. Because it's none of your business.

-AC

What seems to be ignored here, is that this is a morality debate, if you care and love for every living cell in the world, then don't get an abortion, someone else wants an abortion, get the **** out of their lives.

Originally posted by alcoholicpoet
What seems to be ignored here, is that this is a morality debate, if you care and love for every living cell in the world, then don't get an abortion, someone else wants an abortion, get the **** out of their lives.

I'm sorry alcoholicpoet I didn't get your point. Could you elaborate?

Originally posted by debbiejo
If it's a risk then that is another topic.....and yes they have nerves that feel even more so than a fully developed child...they feel even more pain and are even more sensitive to it....they are alive.....

Originally posted by Shakyamunison
The egg and sperm are both a live and together have the DNA of a human. Try combining a dead egg and sperm together and see what you get.

Thats Bullshit, were did you get your information that it feelss pain from...and even "more pain"...."more pain" than what?

Originally posted by Shakyamunison
The egg and sperm are both a live and together have the DNA of a human. Try combining a dead egg and sperm together and see what you get.

They have the potential to life but nothing more, they are no more a life form than a drop of your blood is.

What alcoholicpoet said, was what I've been saying for ages.

If you're so altruistic and loving and caring, stay away from the "evil" that you believe abortion to be. Don't get involved, don't ever have one.

There are others that don't share the same views, so in that event, what you should do if you care so much, is go away and let them do what they want.

If you care so much, care for the woman who is thinking of her own life, already here, already living, than some gathering of cells in her uterus.

Either way, it's NOT YOUR BUSINESS.

That is the crucial point here that continuously ignored and overlooked.

I appreciate your quaint value of life, but what you need to appreciate is exactly that. It's YOUR value and moral fibre, NOT mine. NOT the woman going for the abortion.

Keep your beliefs and morals on yourself.

-AC

Originally posted by Bardock42
Thats Bullshit, were did you get your information that it feelss pain from...and even "more pain"...."more pain" than what?

They have the potential to life but nothing more, they are no more a life form than a drop of your blood is.

Hi Bardock42

The life of the child will be reborn. However, I know two woman who in there life time have have an abortion and both of them regret it. The karma for this action is unavoidable.

Originally posted by Alpha Centauri
What alcoholicpoet said, was what I've been saying for ages.

If you're so altruistic and loving and caring, stay away from the "evil" that you believe abortion to be. Don't get involved, don't ever have one.

There are others that don't share the same views, so in that event, what you should do if you care so much, is go away and let them do what they want.

If you care so much, care for the woman who is thinking of her own life, already here, already living, than some gathering of cells in her uterus.

Either way, it's NOT YOUR BUSINESS.

That is the crucial point here that continuously ignored and overlooked.

I appreciate your quaint value of life, but what you need to appreciate is exactly that. It's YOUR value and moral fibre, NOT mine. NOT the woman going for the abortion.

Keep your beliefs and morals on yourself.

-AC

Thank you for clarifying.

Originally posted by Shakyamunison
Hi Bardock42

The life of the child will be reborn. However, I know two woman who in there life time have have an abortion and both of them regret it. The karma for this action is unavoidable.

Originally posted by Shakyamunison
Hi Bardock42

The life of the child will be reborn. However, I know two woman who in there life time have have an abortion and both of them regret it. The karma for this action is unavoidable.

Really? Coz I've known about 12 who have been in that situation.

3 of which got talked and forced out of it by the likes of you, Vaya, Debbiejo and people like that.

While they had their kids and as a result, had a horrible life, struggling to provide for a newborn they didn't want, the others got abortions, went about their lives and are now living as they wish to.

Some regret it, some don't.

You're missing the crucial point that it's once more, THE WOMAN'S BUSINESS.

It is NOTHING to do with you. At all. It's not your uterus.

If you choose to hate abortion, fine. Keep that shit to yourself and stay away from anything remotely involving abortion.

I fail to see why you and others like you feel as though you must interject your not-needed selves into the lives of people who don't care for your advice.

Oh yes, because you care. Well I think we've discovered that it's more about selfishness than care. Because caring would be leaving them to do as they wish.

-AC