Abortion

Started by debbiejo787 pages

Originally posted by Adam_PoE
The relationship of you to the living thing plugged into against your will is irrelevant; the argument is logically equivocal.

Remember, all persons have a right to life, and violinists are persons. Granted, you have a right to decide what happens in and to your body, but a person's right to life outweighs your right to decide what happens in and to your body. So you cannot be unplugged from him. But never mind, it's only for nine months.

I agree.....

"The freedom of life and the pursuit of happiness".....Seems I've read that on some important document.

LIFE, LIBERTY, AND THE PURSUIT OF HAPPINESS.....now that's better.

Originally posted by debbiejo
LIFE, LIBERTY, AND THE PURSUIT OF HAPPINESS.....now that's better.

Liberty and the pursuit of happiness pertain to the privacy and freedom of choice maintained by women and their bodies.

Originally posted by Alpha Centauri
You make it sound as if I'm actually fighting a war. "This guy doesn't quit." Stop being so overdramatic.

Alright, I will award you victory in whatever the hell it was we were arguing about. Let's move on, AC.

Originally posted by Adam_PoE
The relationship of you to the living thing plugged into against your will is irrelevant; the argument is logically equivocal.

Remember, all persons have a right to life, and violinists are persons. Granted, you have a right to decide what happens in and to your body, but a person's right to life outweighs your right to decide what happens in and to your body. So you cannot be unplugged from him. But never mind, it's only for nine months.

but for me it is something different.

Originally posted by AdventChild
hey buddy i like you and everything but, we disagree.....well if it isn't a baby then what is it....? at 8 months what is it? at 4 months what is it? at 8.343 monts what is it? at 6 months what is it?.....seriously AC i really do like you alot!Alot! but we don't don't agree on some things...this being one of them...I agree that my belief's shouldn't have anysay in others choices but it's only my opinion and i have my reasons for believing what i do...I'm sure if you and ur g.f had a baby and after 5 1/2 months she decided she wanted to have an abortion you wouldn't want to go through with it would you?....
i agree.

Originally posted by AdventChild
hey buddy i like you and everything but, we disagree.....well if it isn't a baby then what is it....? at 8 months what is it? at 4 months what is it? at 8.343 monts what is it? at 6 months what is it?.....seriously AC i really do like you alot!Alot! but we don't don't agree on some things...this being one of them...I agree that my belief's shouldn't have anysay in others choices but it's only my opinion and i have my reasons for believing what i do...I'm sure if you and ur g.f had a baby and after 5 1/2 months she decided she wanted to have an abortion you wouldn't want to go through with it would you?....

It's a collection of cells.

Just because it isn't as classifiable, doesn't mean you can just say "Oh we'll call it a baby then". Because it isn't one.

You wouldn't call a wheel, a car would you? No. It's just a wheel. Regardless of what it could possibly become, it's not. Just like the cells aren't a baby.

Well yes I would. I'm not so self absorbed as to force any woman to go through anything she doesn't want to. That plus the fact that I'm not all "Awww it's a baby" like most of you.

If that happened to you, sorry, but this is no place for biased personal views or issues.

-AC

Originally posted by alcoholicpoet
Liberty and the pursuit of happiness pertain to the privacy and freedom of choice maintained by women and their bodies.

LIFE, LIBERTY, AND THE PURSUIT OF HAPPINESS.....

Nope.......everyone....

Originally posted by debbiejo
LIFE, LIBERTY, AND THE PURSUIT OF HAPPINESS.....

Nope.......everyone....

What about everyone? Are we going somewhere? 😕

sorry

Originally posted by debbiejo
Isn't it obvious.......Life, Liberty and the pursuit of happiness is for everyone....No matter how itsy bitsy tiny winy little poka dot......Oh, forget it.......Of course it's a woman's choice, just infringes on the babies/fetus/cells/amoebas/worm.......whatever you want to labell it's rights....It human.

Click on that picture and tell me it's not cute... 😛 There's your group of cells.....

I think women should chose if they want an abortion or not.

it should be based on the parents, but still killing a fetus is wrong.

...because ...

Originally posted by debbiejo
Click on that picture and tell me it's not cute... 😛 There's your group of cells.....

No, that's a picture of a baby significantly above newborn age.

I could post a picture of me and say "There's your group of cells".

Wouldn't be any truer.

You're silly, hehe. You silly lady.

-AC

Originally posted by Alpha Centauri

You're silly, hehe. You silly lady.

-AC

Nope, just a extraordinary group of cells.........brain cells mainly....

Well I love the way you skipped the part of my post where I once against vapourised your debate.

-AC

Imagine waking up one morning with asthma, rashes, and upper-abdominal discomfort. Upon going to the hospital and having a series of tests performed, it is discovered that you unknowingly introduced a round worm into your digestive system through contaminated food or water.

When you ask to have the round worm removed, the director of the hospital tells you, "Look, we're sorry this round worm has infected you, but this would not have happened if you had been more careful about what you eat and drink. However, the round worm is inside you, and to remove it now would be to kill it. But never mind, it's only for a year. By then it will have completed its lifescycle, and can be safely removed from you."

Remember, all living things have a right to life, and round worms are living things. Granted you have a right to decide what happens in and to your body, but a living thing's right to life outweighs your right to decide what happens in and to your body. So you cannot ever have it removed from you.

Surely, you would regard this as outrageous. Now consider for a moment that eventhough a fetus has human DNA, it is definitionally a parasitic organism:

par·a·site n. An organism that grows, feeds, and is sheltered in or on a different organism while contributing nothing to the survival of its host.

Originally posted by Alpha Centauri
Well I love the way you skipped the part of my post where I once against vapourised your debate.

-AC


It seems to be a growing practice among KMC. I, however, won't skip it.

A wheel cannot become a car. Wheels don't grow up into cars. Wheels (and cars) are not alive.

Originally posted by Adam_PoE
Imagine waking up one morning with asthma, rashes, and upper-abdominal discomfort. Upon going to the hospital and having a series of tests performed, it is discovered that you unknowingly introduced a round worm into your digestive system through contaminated food or water.

When you ask to have the round worm removed, the director of the hospital tells you, "Look, we're sorry this round worm has infected you, but this would not have happened if you had been more careful about what you eat and drink. However, the round worm is inside you, and to remove it now would be to kill it. But never mind, it's only for a year. By then it will have completed its lifescycle, and can be safely removed from you."

Remember, all living things have a right to life, and round worms are living things. Granted you have a right to decide what happens in and to your body, but a living thing's right to life outweighs your right to decide what happens in and to your body. So you cannot ever have it removed from you.

Surely, you would regard this as outrageous. Now consider for a moment that eventhough a fetus has human DNA, it is definitionally a parasitic organism:

[b]par·a·site n. An organism that grows, feeds, and is sheltered in or on a different organism while contributing nothing to the survival of its host. [/B]


Since when do all organisms have a right to life? Also, the symptoms described--if one were to consider this as a pregnancy--would not be nearly so severe until the later stages. A roundworm can never become as advanced as a human being; it will never be self-aware.

Same deal with the violinist argument.

Originally posted by FeceMan
It seems to be a growing practice among KMC. I, however, won't skip it.

A wheel cannot become a car. Wheels don't grow up into cars. Wheels (and cars) are not alive.

Since when do all organisms have a right to life? Also, the symptoms described--if one were to consider this as a pregnancy--would not be nearly so severe until the later stages. A roundworm can never become as advanced as a human being; it will never be self-aware.

Same deal with the violinist argument.

I like you alot!Ur Kool! 😄 😎

Originally posted by AdventChild
I like you alot!Ur Kool! 😄 😎

I cannot tell if this post is as coated with as much sarcasm as the fingers of whoever last used my damn keyboard were with syrup.

Aw, shucks, I just realized something:

Bill O'Reilly's "You just lost the argument!" and AC's "Your argument was just vaporized!" are surprisingly similar.