Abortion

Originally posted by Arachnoidfreak
Anyone really shouldnt wait until the zygote becomes a fetus if they are going to get an abortion. It takes 8 weeks for it to become a fetus, doctors advise not to wait that long, it makes the surgery more damaging to the mother as well. So all this crap about killing fetuses is off point anyway.

If you are pro-abortion or not doesnt make a difference, the real argument shouldn't be if it is right, the argument should be is it right to take away people's choices? and even if it is outlawed, women will still get abortions, just in back alleys where its not as clean and much more of a health hazard

I just thought this was another very logical response that was posted a couple days ago, I think.

Nothing has altered, the only agreement here is that to some people, abortions shouldn't be done after the third trimester. I couldn't care any less when it's done, not my problem or business.

-AC

Originally posted by meep-meep
Good response. Well, I think so at least. A lot of people don't like to see abortion in this view.
Abortions aren't pretty things so if a women decides to get one it's in her best interest to do it early on. Point: Don't wait until the baby is almost mature enough to leave the womb and then have an abortion unless your life is at stake.

Whats the difference when a woman decides to do it?

It's her body, it's her choice.

Maybe she didn't have the money earlier.

Maybe she wasn't entirely sure if she wanted it yet.

What the reason is, it is her choice

Yes it's her choice and if she wnats to do it fine. However, by doing at that late she runs the risk of having a lot of people she is close to or just knows off-hand who knows she was pregnant judging her. Women have the choice to do what ever they want but that's not an excuse to be irresposnsible.
If a women is short on cash than couldn't she buy much cheaper birth control pills to prevent the pregnancy in the first place?

Exactly, so they shouldn't judge.

These aren't abortion related problems, they are problems with people.

-AC

Originally posted by meep-meep
Yes it's her choice and if she wnats to do it fine. However, by doing at that late she runs the risk of having a lot of people she is close to or just knows off-hand who knows she was pregnant judging her. Women have the choice to do what ever they want but that's not an excuse to be irresposnsible.
If a women is short on cash than couldn't she buy much cheaper birth control pills to prevent the pregnancy in the first place?

I agree that it would be better if she'd buy birth control rather than having a abortion.

But still, it's her decision period.

Also, maybe she deicided she wanted the baby at first but later decided against it. Although she obviously might be confused I'm not trying to blame this hypothetical person. It's not her fault that she has to deal with all these people judging her. But it's how it is. People will judge and people will get pissed that their tax dollars are spent on something they don't agree with. We need to educate women and men on some of the problems they can face if they have unprotected sex.

Originally posted by Zebina
I agree that it would be better if she'd buy birth control rather than having a abortion.

But still, it's her decision period.

you are right it is her decision but other people always add their 2 cents, usually because, indirectly, the action of one person affects everyone in some way.

Originally posted by meep-meep
Also, maybe she deicided she wanted the baby at first but later decided against it. Although she obviously might be confused I'm not trying to blame this hypothetical person. It's not her fault that she has to deal with all these people judging her. But it's how it is. People will judge and people will get pissed that their tax dollars are spent on something they don't agree with. We need to educate women and men on some of the problems they can face if they have unprotected sex.

People are always judging people.

Homosexuals
Smokers
Un Wed Mothers
When who give their baby up
Women who get abortions.

It's nothing new. People will ALWAYS judge others.

Yes. It's true and unfortunate.

Originally posted by Zebina
But still, it's her decision period.

Truthfully, that's all there is to it. It is the woman's decision. It has 0 to do with us.

Originally posted by meep-meep
you are right it is her decision but other people always add their 2 cents, usually because, indirectly, the action of one person affects everyone in some way.

People often have delusions of entitlement and believe they have rights they do not.

That being one of them. Have your two cents, but don't give them to me unless I ask.

-AC

Ok. I think that you are thinking I've got an agenda here, and am trying to tell people how they should think. Let me corrrect you, if that's your assumption. I was telling Zebrina that people like to add their 2 cents. I didn't I like to add my 2 cents, although I will if I want. I agree with Zebrina that women have the choice to do what they want. I just pointed out others don't want to leave some, no most, decisions to them.
Also, I don't need your permission to say what ever I want to say. If I'm misinterpreting you than I apologize.

I was speaking in general regarding your comment about people wanting to be involved.

You don't have the right to add your two cents where they aren't wanted. Nobody does, unless of course you're the father or the mother.

-AC

Originally posted by Alpha Centauri
I was speaking in general regarding your comment about people wanting to be involved.

You don't have the right to add your two cents where they aren't wanted. Nobody does, unless of course you're the father or the mother.

-AC

Yet you have managed to add about $6.00 worth of two cents in this thread since I resurrected it last week.

Keep on championing the cause that has nothing to do with you. 🙄

Originally posted by sithsaber408
Yet you have managed to add about $6.00 worth of two cents in this thread since I resurrected it last week.

Keep on championing the cause that has nothing to do with you. 🙄

I was thinking the same thing. I'm not posting in this thread because I don't want to get into an argument with AC.

Originally posted by sithsaber408
Yet you have managed to add about $6.00 worth of two cents in this thread since I resurrected it last week.

Keep on championing the cause that has nothing to do with you. 🙄

You are not the Thread starter though....and you have no right to decide who may add their two cents and who doesn't.

No, I completely disagree. Anyone has the right to add their two cents to any discussion whether that discussion is open to them or not. If the discussion has no way of affecting someone than it would be smart for that person or group to butt out. In the case of an abortion people everywhere have a say in the policy that surrounds it because well tax money goes into the implementation of it.Trying telling someone who pays taxes they can't have a say in what happens to their money. So if a couple or a women decides to have an abortion they will have to deal with other people whether they like it or not. Unless they or she can perform the abortion themselves or get it done by a privatized hospital, than I see no way that isn't a social issue.

Originally posted by Bardock42
You are not the Thread starter though....and you have no right to decide who may add their two cents and who doesn't.

Originally posted by Bardock42
You are not the Thread starter though....and you have no right to decide who may add their two cents and who doesn't.

Neither does he, though he seems to think he can get off telling certain groups that they have no right to be involved in the decision, but that his points of view can. 😄

I think everybody should post their 2 cents, and I have said so in this thread.

He thinks that he can tell people to keep their noses out of everyones business, whilst having his own nose squarely in the debate.

(not to mention up his arrogant, juvenile ass where the rest of his head is.)