"The human body hasn't evolved to the point that medical definitions are now obsolete, they need no changing."
Its not that the human body has changed so much as our understanding of how it works.
Laws are dynamic creeatures meant to serve the people it protects as such it can be changed if the tidings of the society at hand push's for that change.
Originally posted by soleran30
"The human body hasn't evolved to the point that medical definitions are now obsolete, they need no changing."Its not that the human body has changed so much as our understanding of how it works.
Laws are dynamic creeatures meant to serve the people it protects as such it can be changed if the tidings of the society at hand push's for that change.
Agreed! AC puposely misunderstood, he does that 😂
I didn't purposely misinterpret you did I Whirly? I'd have to understand you in the first place to misinterpret you on purpose. If you meant what Soleran said about the human body, then fair enough.
You never said that, you said the law is old and that medical definitions need changing. Go choke on your irony, sir.
How about that S. Dakota eh? Lunatics.
-AC
Originally posted by Alpha Centauri
I didn't purposely misinterpret you did I Whirly? I'd have to understand you in the first place to misinterpret you on purpose. If you meant what Soleran said about the human body, then fair enough.You never said that, you said the law is old and that medical definitions need changing. Go choke on your irony, sir.
How about that S. Dakota eh? Lunatics.
-AC
Medical definitions in relation to law. 😂 Soleran understood it 🙂
quote "moving on"
I have a question for you AC do you think that when brainwave activity is registered in a foetus that makes the infant alive or dead?
Yes South Dakota is strange!
Originally posted by soleran30
an infant isn't an independant being either its not like alot of other creatures in the wild that can partially defend at birth it is totally reliant on the mother even at birth.
The legal point is regarding actual physical independence.
General comment, not specifically to Sol- the law does recognise that a foetus is alive; that's not the legal issue.
Originally posted by Victor Von Doom
Makedde, you have the attention span of a goldfish. Fecking hell.I know for a fact this has come up before, and it was you that raised it.
In that case, it's not murder because it's a lawful procedure. If it were not, it may be murder, depending. In that scenario, the baby may still be breathing dependently, as it is not fully born. If so, it wouldn't be murder.
Christ, is the tag of murder really this important?
Killing of a baby! Terrible!
Call them babykillers if it's the shock impact that is wanted.
no it's not that important, so whenever someone uses the term, you and others shouldn't make a big deal out of it and lose brain cells over it.
is it comprehensible.....
Originally posted by Alpha Centauri
I'll be damned if I'll live by a law that was brought about by someone's beliefs in God.
Then you're definitely damned. Religion has affected nearly everything since the first of them. Each different belief led to different actions in order to follow the "holy directive" which in turn created massive repercussions.
For example, here in Canada the laws are against 'loose' behaviour. Why? Because of the Anglican Church did not accept the Puritans which drove them into the New World. They created the governing body; they decided the law. Because many in society believe that old = right, the effects of Puritan rule continue on to this very day.
Originally posted by FeceMan
Anyone want to add anything constructive or should this thread die (again)?
Funny I dont remember. posting "I'm a tool." I didn't know there was anything against agreeing with a person here. It's not like I don't contribute my own point of view into these discussions. Next time you take a personal attack at me f*ckface why don't you give me your address or how bout we meet somewhere to talk about these issues.
Feceman: I like to provoke people because I don't agree with them.
Put false words into my mouth again. I suspect you've never had someone speak up to you and fling them right back at you. Chump.
Originally posted by FeceMan
I'm afraid that religion does belong in the thread. After all, it is what shapes my beliefs. I have stated my views and why I believe them. This is constructive. You, on the other hand, have caused more strife in this thread with your arrogance and condescension than any other member.
Alpha has his views too. Who the h*ll are YOU to say he doesn't contribute anything here when you are out here talking junk to people just to get them p*ssed off? If you have problems with his words take it gracefully and talk to him like you want to be talked to. Look, you have your opinions. Fine. Express them. No body says you cant and if someone does I'll gladly be on you side about it. But if you want to start talking about the bible be prepared to back up your argument with RATIONAL thought and not just with what a book written LONG ago, and has gone through numerous changes, says.
I apoligize if I offended you, but sometimes it gets frustrating talking to people who refuse to accept the views of many others. And these views of others are based on THEIR life and scientifically proved FACTS, not what an old, old outdated and penis jocking book says.
Originally posted by Alpha Centauri
Morality is subjective, I've never said any different, but look what happens when religion is involved. This is exactly why it can't be involved.-AC
I'd say if people want to bring religion into it let them but lets just be prepared to givce them the facts of REAL life.
Originally posted by Makedde
I actually agree. I don't think anyone should make a decision based on what a book says. If you do, it isn't your decision, or your opinion, it's someone elses.
is it comprehensible.....
Originally posted by meep-meep
Alpha has his views too. Who the h*ll are YOU to say he doesn't contribute anything here when you are out here talking junk to people just to get them p*ssed off? If you have problems with his words take it gracefully and talk to him like you want to be talked to. Look, you have your opinions. Fine. Express them. No body says you cant and if someone does I'll gladly be on you side about it. But if you want to start talking about the bible be prepared to back up your argument with RATIONAL thought and not just with what a book written LONG ago, and has gone through numerous changes, says.
I apoligize if I offended you, but sometimes it gets frustrating talking to people who refuse to accept the views of many others. And these views of others are based on THEIR life and scientifically proved FACTS, not what an old, old outdated and penis jocking book says.
but why does it get to you when people don't accept your views or AC's views when you all don't accept anyone's views.
Don't be a hypocrite please. You receive what you give. You can't expect acceptance if you and others are dismissing everything that doesn't fall under yalls views.