Abortion

Originally posted by Bardock42
What? No, he's just pro-choice. Pro-choice doesn't mean that you can abort up to the last day. It means you believe it is the woman's choice with certain limitations.

Which suddenly makes me think it's not a two thing issue...just that most of us either agree with one or the other side.

Pro-choice is exactly what it says in the name. Pro-choice, being for the choice of the female, whatever it may be and without any limitation.

-AC

Originally posted by Alpha Centauri
That's not pro-life, is it? No.

It's being pro-choice with gritted teeth. It's not being pro-life. Pro-life is anti-abortion 100%.

You can't be against abortion on the basis that "It's a life" and then say it's ok, that ruins your stance and you're no longer pro-life. You're just anti-frivolous abortions.

-AC

Enough for today. I will come back to that.

Originally posted by Alpha Centauri
Pro-choice is exactly what it says in the name. Pro-choice, being for the choice of the female, whatever it may be and without any limitation.

-AC

Not really. You can be pro choice and disagree with late term abortions. That is still pro-choice.

What's to come back to?

"I'm pro-life. As in, I think abortion is wrong...except when..." Yeah, exactly. It doesn't work. You're either pro-life and against abortion or you're pro-choice.

You can't logically say that you're against some abortions, just some...but are still pro-life. If you condone the killing of the foetus at any point, you are not pro-life. Because pro-life is protecting the foetus until born, regardless.

-AC

Originally posted by Alpha Centauri
What's to come back to?

"I'm pro-life. As in, I think abortion is wrong...except when..." Yeah, exactly. It doesn't work. You're either pro-life and against abortion or you're pro-choice.

You can't logically say that you're against some abortions, just some...but are still pro-life. If you condone the killing of the foetus at any point, you are not pro-life. Because pro-life is protecting the foetus until born, regardless.

-AC

You know I don't actually mean that.....right? I totally agree with you. You are right.

Originally posted by Bardock42
Not really. You can be pro choice and disagree with late term abortions. That is still pro-choice.

I'm talking about pro-life, not pro-choice.

Pro-life means to believe in the protection of the foetus no matter what the cost. Under no circumstance must it be terminated. SO...if you agree with abortion in any way, you're not pro-life.

-AC

Originally posted by Alpha Centauri
I'm talking about pro-life, not pro-choice.

Pro-life means to believe in the protection of the foetus no matter what the cost. Under no circumstance must it be terminated. SO...if you agree with abortion in any way, you're not pro-life.

-AC

Yeah, then you are pro-choice.

Wasn't hard was it?

-AC

Originally posted by Alpha Centauri
Wasn't hard was it?

-AC

Yeah...so PVS is not "on the fence" he is "pro-choice"....can we agree to that?

what im saying is, though i agree with the hypocricy of pro-lifers (fetus is sacred/babies-kids-adults are not worth a shit).

but your manner of blowing apart the pro-life camp also blows apart the pro-choice camp. i'm not a rare breed. many if not most "pro choice" people are against frivilous partial birth abortions.

Originally posted by PVS
what im saying is, though i agree with the hypocricy of pro-lifers (fetus is sacred/babies-kids-adults are not worth a shit).

but your manner of blowing apart the pro-life camp also blows apart the pro-choice camp. i'm not a rare breed. many if not most "pro choice" people are against frivilous partial birth abortions.

Yeah...they are....and? Your point?

my point is that if you place conditions on a woman's right to choose then you are not really pro-choice. what if she chooses late term? im against it. so i'm not pro-choice.

Originally posted by PVS
my point is that if you place conditions on a woman's right to choose then you are not really pro-choice. what if she chooses late term? im against it. so i'm not pro-choice.

Yeah, but that is considered pro choice. So it seems for the woman to have a choice at some point is considered pro-choice. Pro-life is totally agains abortion.....

Why are you against it? Because of the life?

That would be a degree of pro-life. Pro-choice is obviously more open than being pro-life. Pro-life is absolute, choice isn't. You're pro-choice to a certain point, but you can justify I'm sure (even if I disagree) why you are of that belief.

-AC

Actually, I don't know why I am argueing....I can't really say when something is pro-choice or pro-life....hmm....weird.

There are two sides, pro-choice and pro-life. If you're generally against abortions, you're pro-life. If you're generally for abortions, you're pro-choice.

There are exceptions to both sides.

justify? i cant. i can only state my belief that late term abortion is barbaric and any woman who would choose to exploit a technicallity (unborn/born) to the point of killing an unborn baby weeks/days/hours before its born based on some friviolous choice should be hurled out a 20 story building. thats my opinion. easily debatable, but whats the point?

Originally posted by PVS
justify? i cant. i can only state my belief that late term abortion is barbaric and any woman who would choose to exploit a technicallity (unborn/born) to the point of killing an unborn baby weeks/days/hours before its born based on some friviolous choice should be hurled out a 20 story building. thats my opinion. easily debatable, but whats the point?

Hmm, I think with Eis' definition that fits very well to the pro-choice side.....

too bad you corrected your typo. would have been some good times.

Originally posted by PVS
too bad you corrected your typo. would have been some good times.

I have no idea what you are talking about.