Then again, I think it's barbaric to kill an ACTUAL living human by throwing her out of a building just because she chooses something you have a particular dislike to, even if it's not affecting you.
There we go. Our differing opinions.
I disagree with Eis because you can't generally be pro-life. You disagree with abortions totally or you don't. The concept of what it means to be pro-LIFE sees to that. Choice hasn't got such an absolute concept.
-AC
Originally posted by PVS
thats my opinion. easily debatable, but whats the point?
Originally posted by Alpha Centauri
Then again, I think it's barbaric to kill an ACTUAL living human by throwing her out of a building just because she chooses something you have a particular dislike to, even if it's not affecting you.There we go. Our differing opinions.
I disagree with Eis because you can't generally be pro-life. You disagree with abortions totally or you don't. The concept of what it means to be pro-LIFE sees to that. Choice hasn't got such an absolute concept.
-AC
i guess you just like to go for the easy prey? only thing is you should have learned at this point to not take every word i say literally, and i'm quite outspoken about being against the death penalty...maybe just throw her off the 3rd story so she just breaks her legs
...and bardock, please dont reply with "but it IS literal, im reading it" or i'll just puke on my keyboard.
One who advises against not taking things literally should not assume every word said against him is also meant seriously.
Because naturally I did believe, in all honesty, that you would kill a woman for choosing a late term abortion. Seriously...(no not seriously, of course I know you didn't mean it literally).
-AC
I disagree with Eis because you can't generally be pro-life. You disagree with abortions totally or you don't. The concept of what it means to be pro-LIFE sees to that. Choice hasn't got such an absolute concept.-AC
To this debate there are two sides, maybe there should be more but there are two: yes or no, pro-life or pro-choice. You simply choose the side you agree with the most.
Originally posted by Eis
Pro-life means to believe in the protection of the foetus no matter what the cost. Really? Show me where you got that from.
I got it from what pro-life means. Which is that the foetus has equal right to life to that of a human and any intentional killing of it, at any cost, is wrong. If you don't adhere to that, you're not pro-life. It's really that simple because the concept of pro-life is absolute.
"Pro-life generally refers to a political movement that opposes abortion. The movement began after the 1973 United States Supreme Court decision known as Roe v. Wade that deemed abortion a constitutional right. The pro-life view has grown to encompass opposition to euthanasia, human cloning, and human embryonic stem cell research. Pro-life adherents argue that these issues concern the right to life of human beings. The most common pro-life view is that life begins at conception and that any intentional killing of that life is wrong."
-AC
Originally posted by Bardock42
You can, but that would be like a Yankees fan having a "Red Sox #1!!!" Foam Finger.
i guess the proof is out there for all to see, with my typos. the truth of my belief is this: i am against pro-lifers and find them...EVERY ONE of them, disturbing.
however i choose not to jump to the "other side" just because of this, since mutual contempt for a group is a poor reason to make bedfellows.
so what i'm saying is: while i care that the pro-life agenda does not advance, i dont give a flying **** about the pro-choice camp. 2-side black/white debates are the root of distraction in the u.s. and i try my best to not play along (though i dont always succeed)
Originally posted by PVS
i guess the proof is out there for all to see, with my typos. the truth of my belief is this: i am against pro-lifers and find them...EVERY ONE of them, disturbing.
however i choose not to jump to the "other side" just because of this, since mutual contempt for a group is a poor reason to make bedfellows.so what i'm saying is: while i care that the pro-life agenda does not advance, i dont give a flying **** about the pro-choice camp. 2-side black/white debates are the root of distraction in the u.s. and i try my best to not play along (though i dont always succeed)
Originally posted by Bardock42
Good. But what is your belief on abortion?
i already stated. i think a woman has the right to, given a timely manner a.k.a. when she finds out she's pregnant. so she cant handle the burden..then fine. however i am against her "right to choose" to have a baby unborn by like 2 weeks pulled from her womb partially and have its brains sucked out of its head with a vaccume.
Originally posted by PVS
i already stated. i think a woman has the right to, given a timely manner a.k.a. when she finds out she's pregnant. so she cant handle the burden..then fine. however i am against her "right to choose" to have a baby unborn by like 2 weeks pulled from her womb partially and have its brains sucked out of its head with a vaccume.
But that's what most pro-choice people agree to as well. I do for example. And I consider myself pro-choice....
Originally posted by Bardock42
But that's what most pro-choice people agree to as well. I do for example. And I consider myself pro-choice....
but you would consider yourself part of a group where some are for it.
what if you were against police brutallity, went to a protest, and found yourself
marching side by side with cop killers? like i said, mutual contempt for a group
is a poor reason to make bedfellows.
Originally posted by PVS
but you would consider yourself part of a group where some are for it.
what if you were against police brutallity, went to a protest, and found yourself
marching side by side with cop killers? like i said, mutual contempt for a group
is a poor reason to make bedfellows.
Well, it is just a label though, and I happen to fall into that category. As do you. That doesn't mean I agree with everyone that falls into it....
Originally posted by PVS
but if you fall into a group, you become their embassador, as they become yours.
Not really. That reminds me of this Churchill thing. What it takes to be part of a party is to agree with it when it is wrong. Pro-choice is not a party. You don't need to agree with every opinion of the group. Everyone is an individual. We jsut have a somewhat similar idea. That abortion should to some extend be legal. And that we disagree with the pro-lifer view on the matter.