Abortion

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An interesting quiz...

How would you respond in these situations?

1. A preacher and his wife are very, very poor. They already have 14 kids. Now she finds out she's pregnant with the 15th. They're living in tremendous poverty. Considering their poverty and the excessive world population, would you consider recommending she get an abortion?

2. The father is sick with the sniffles, the mother has TB. Of their four children, the first is blind, the second has died, the third is deaf, the fourth has TB. She finds she's pregnant again. Given this extreme situation, would you consider recommending abortion?

3. A white man raped a 13-year-old black girl and now she's pregnant. If you were her parents, would you consider recommending abortion?

4. A teenage girl is pregnant. She's not married. Her fiance is not the father of the baby, and her fiance is upset. Would you recommend abortion?

In the first case you would have killed John Wesley, one of the great evangelists in the 19th century.

In the second case, you would have killed Beethoven.

In the third case, you would have killed Ethel Waters, the great black gospel singer.

In the fourth case, you would have declared the murder of Jesus Christ.

I find the pro-choice argument: "You can't use potentiality as a reason to ban abortions, since they could be good or bad, and aren't even people yet." to be quite a joke.

I was going to be aborted, if my father would have had his way. It was the choice of my mother to have me, whether she lost her marriage or not. She had me, and in fact lost the marriage.

But you know what, had she had the abortion, it's ME who wouldn't be here. Me, a human being with thoughts, dreams, fears, hopes, a job, a wife, and a life.

Not a "fetus",... an "it"...or a "choice".

A person.

Every abortion, whether you define it as murder, killing, or the prevention of life, takes away a human being who would have lived among us, just as surely as if I took handgun and shot you in the head.

Think about that the next time you think about the "right to choose."

Re: An interesting quiz...

Originally posted by sithsaber408

I was going to be aborted, if my father would have had his way. It was the choice of my mother to have me, whether she lost her marriage or not. She had me, and in fact lost the marriage.

Wow, best argument to be pro choice I have ever heard.

Originally posted by Bardock42
Wow, best argument to be pro choice I have ever heard.
Agreed. And I also agree with sithsaber on Abortion. But to a lesser extent.

I never would've thought I could agree with sithsaber on anything. Actually, now that I think about it, his post is pretty weak and as valid as a creationist argument or something a religious person would say. Still, atleast this time he has a point about something.

Re: An interesting quiz...

Originally posted by sithsaber408
I was going to be aborted, if my father would have had his way.

****. So close.

Re: An interesting quiz...

Originally posted by sithsaber408
I find the pro-choice argument: "You can't use potentiality as a reason to ban abortions, since they could be good or bad, and aren't even people yet." to be quite a joke.

I was going to be aborted, if my father would have had his way. It was the choice of my mother to have me, whether she lost her marriage or not. She had me, and in fact lost the marriage.

But you know what, had she had the abortion, it's ME who wouldn't be here. Me, a human being with thoughts, dreams, fears, hopes, a job, a wife, and a life.

Not a "fetus",... an "it"...or a "choice".

A person.

Every abortion, whether you define it as murder, killing, or the prevention of life, takes away a human being who would have lived among us, just as surely as if I took handgun and shot you in the head.

Think about that the next time you think about the "right to choose."

Remember, every time you masturbate, use contraception, or simply "pull-out," you are preventing a life.

Not a "fetus," an "it," or a "choice," but a person with thoughts and feelings, hopes and dreams, a spouse and children—a life.

This prevention of life takes away a human begin who would have lived among us just as if I had taken a hand gun and shot you in the head.

Think about that the next time you jerk off, put on a condom, or give your wife a pearl necklace.

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Originally posted by Adam_PoE
Remember, every time you masturbate, use contraception, or simply "pull-out," you are preventing a life.

Not a "fetus," an "it," or a "choice," but a person with thoughts and feelings, hopes and dreams, a spouse and children—a life.

This prevention of life takes away a human begin who would have lived among us just as if I had taken a hand gun and shot you in the head.

Think about that the next time you jerk off, put on a condom, or give your wife a pearl necklace.

Sperm is but 1/2 the ingredient in making a person, so it is a silly argument you bring up. People argue that "life" beings the moment the sperm joins with and fertilizes the egg, not before.

Originally posted by Mr. Sandman
****. So close.
I'm sure everyone else thought of that joke too...

Originally posted by Robtard
Sperm is but 1/2 the ingredient in making a person, so it is a silly argument you bring up. People argue that "life" beings the moment the sperm joins with and fertilizes the egg, not before.
Yes but if that sperm is ejaculated without meeting an egg, then the baby they can make cannot be. If Beethoven's father had a wank before he shagged his wife, then Beethoven would be a different person altogether, because he was created from a different sperm.

Then again, you can't really on this, seeing as sperm ejaculation and fertilisation is practically by chance.

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Originally posted by Robtard
Sperm is but 1/2 the ingredient in making a person, so it is a silly argument you bring up. People argue that "life" beings the moment the sperm joins with and fertilizes the egg, not before.

Preventing a sperm from fertilizing an egg is preventing a life; it is no different.

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Originally posted by Bardock42
Wow, best argument to be pro choice I have ever heard.
Originally posted by Mr. Sandman
****. So close.
Hehe. It's funny 'cause it's true.

Let the kid live pro life.DMB

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Originally posted by Adam_PoE
Preventing a sperm from fertilizing an egg is preventing a life; it is no different.

It is very different ✅

Preventing Fertilization and preventing Development are two different scenarios.

Originally posted by Damien B
Let the kid live pro life.DMB

Being used to your previous posts I'd expect you to say something like:

"Yo Captain Fagtastic shut the f*CKKK UP...let the F**KN KID LIVE MOTHERF*CKER !!!! YOU F**CKN IDIOTS C*CKS*CKERS HOMOS !!!! LET THE FKN KIDD LIVE !!!!

ONLY HOMO GAYS KILL KIDS !!! YOU F@GS!!! I AGREE WITH JACKIE !!!

-DMB BIOTCH !"

I am glad this time you toned it down a bit....

Re: An interesting quiz...

Originally posted by sithsaber408
How would you respond in these situations?

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Think about that the next time you think about the "right to choose."

And then think about the other side, what if Hitler's parents had an abortion, what if Stalin his parents, what if Mao his parents Kim his parents?

Really there are always cases where it could have turned out better if the abortion did not happen and there are cases where it could have turned out better if the abortion did happen, unless you have the ability to see into the future you should not force people to undergo things like pregnancy childbirth and the raising of a child just because of a small very, very small chance.

How would the parents know that the baby who they killed was going to be bad!jm

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Originally posted by Lord Urizen
It is very different ✅

Preventing Fertilization and preventing Development are two different scenarios.

With the same end result.

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Originally posted by Adam_PoE
With the same end result.

Ones stops life from ever starting... The other ends life after it has started. Big difference.

Originally posted by ADarksideJedi
How would the parents know that the baby who they killed was going to be bad!jm

They have psychic powers given by God!

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Originally posted by Adam_PoE
With the same end result.

So I take it you're saying the Ends always justify the means ?

Scenario 1: A murderer is sentenced to death by lethal injection.

Scenario 2: A murderer is given life in prison

End Result: The murderer will no longer kill innocent civilians

Originally posted by ADarksideJedi
Part of being a woman is to suffer while giving birth.Having an abortion is alot more painful!jm

No it's not ❌

It's not painful for the woman, and when the Abortion is done early, the zygote has no idea what happened.

Originally posted by Soleran
As long as they understand their options let them pick whatever they want however that doesn't make it right in my opinion.

I do not think Abortion is right either ❌

I dislike it, but I am not trying to turn my opinion into a fkn law. Seeing as how I am a man and will NEVER have to deal with it myself, I find that I have no right to tell another woman what to do with her pregnancy.