Abortion

Started by ADarksideJedi787 pages

I don't believe in the birth control pills either.jm

Originally posted by Alliance
What about embryos? A significant number, if not a majority of abortions take place in the embryonic stage.
Extrapolating; they are "innocent embryonic human lives."

Just curious. I'm not trying to flame you.

Originally posted by Alliance
Just curious. I'm not trying to flame you.
Meh. Embryonic stage abortion fits perfectly well with my views on the status of the embryo/fetus.

Then how is contraception not abortion? The embryo only becomes human once its implanted?

A person is a person no matter how small.jm

Originally posted by ADarksideJedi
A person is a person no matter how small.jm

How is a one cell organism a person?

Originally posted by Alliance
Then how is contraception not abortion? The embryo only becomes human once its implanted?
I'm confused as to what you're asking. By etymology contraception is the prevention of conception, but by modern usage it simply means measures to prevent pregnancy. Pregnancy medically begins upon implantation.

The majority of contraception used prevents fertilisation. The more modern chemical contraceptive measures may or may not prevent implantation. However there's a distinction between the emergency contraception and abortifacients.

A just question. Waiting for a wonderful comprhensive answer drawing upon biology, philosophy, and law.

Originally posted by xmarksthespot
I'm confused as to what you're asking. By etymology contraception is the prevention of conception, but by modern usage it simply means measures to prevent pregnancy. Pregnancy medically begins upon implantation.

However there's a distinction between the emergency contraception and abortifacients.

I'm referring to emergency contraception.

A pregnancy may begin upon implationation, but thats not what you're arguing. You're arguing embryos, which are formed upon fertalization. Emergency contraception prevents embryos form implanting, eventuallly leading to its expulsion form the body.

Originally posted by Alliance
I'm referring to emergency contraception.

A pregnancy may begin upon implationation, but thats not what you're arguing. You're arguing embryos, which are formed upon fertalization. Emergency contraception prevents embryos form implanting, eventuallly leading to its expulsion form the body.

That's what's confusing. I'm not sure what you're saying I'm arguing i.e. "I'm arguing embryos, which are formed upon fertilization"... are what? Are you saying I'm arguing embryos are aborted or "contraceived". Medically, prior to implantation it is contraception, post-implantation it is abortion. Therein lies the curiosity in referring to abortion as a "killing a human life"; miscarriage is medically a spontaneous abortion.

Yet, under your thoughts, an embryo is still human.

Originally posted by Alliance
Yet, under your thoughts, an embryo is still human.
Genetically.

How is that any different form an implanted embryo?

Originally posted by Alliance
How is that any different form an implanted embryo?
I'm going to assume you mean is there a difference between an implanted embryo and an unimplanted embryo with regard to being genetically H. sapiens. To which my answer is no.

Ok. My question is then why do you have a problem with killing an embryo after it is implanted, but no problem killing it before that time?

Whats the difference that merits the distinction?

Originally posted by Alliance
Ok. My question is then why do you have a problem with killing an embryo after it is implanted, but no problem killing it before that time?

Whats the difference that merits the distinction?

From where exactly did you derive I had a problem with either?

It may not look like a person but that does not mean that it is not one.jm

Originally posted by xmarksthespot
From where exactly did you derive I had a problem with either?

Perhaps I just misinterpreted.
Originally posted by ADarksideJedi
It may not look like a person but that does not mean that it is not one.jm

Why is it a person? WHY? WHY? WHY? WHY? WHY?

It is becoming a person.It maybe missharp and all but does not make it any less human?jm