Abortion

Originally posted by Up In Flames

Originally posted by xmarksthespot
Neither you nor your fictional god dictate what is "right" or "wrong".

So who does? You? Me? Humanity? There you guys go, claiming yourselves as gods of your own worlds. Aetheist thinking = Communist thinking. You guys are lucky you dont live in pagan countries like the Soviet Union or Vietnam or China. Trust me, you do not want a piece of communism.

Aetheist thinking is also Nazi thinking. Stemming from the idea that God doesnt exist led to evolutionist thinking. Evolutionism got people thinking, "Man evolved from apes. Apes have dark skin and dark hair all over their bodies. Therefore, the most evolved and advanced creatures are white-skinned blonde-haired blue-eyed humans, namely the Aryan race. We must do something to speed up the evolution process by wiping out inferior breeds of human."

You think Im a religious nut? You think Im uneducated? You think I was brainwashed into my belief? The fact is, Im very much a science student as einstein was. It came to a point in my life where I lost belief in God due to numerous scientific claims which create conflict with what the bible says. Anyway, down the line, Jesus Christ led me on the correct path which made me a better person. I made a choice to follow the Lord, not by forceful means. It would be so easy to whip out a hate speech the same way Bardock just replied but it goes against everything I believe in. Like the bible says, the road to hell is very wide but the path to heaven is very narrow.

I'll say it again: Right or Wrong. Make your choice. I cannot bring you to your senses, but I can only hope that you all become wary of God's existence.

Check out this debate between a Creationist scientist and 3 Evolutionist scientists:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xMpk7WerFWw

Say whatever you want, but just watch it!

Take your claptrap to people who care.

Originally posted by Up In Flames
So who does? You? Me? Humanity? There you guys go, claiming yourselves as gods of your own worlds. Aetheist thinking = Communist thinking. You guys are lucky you dont live in pagan countries like the Soviet Union or Vietnam or China. Trust me, you do not want a piece of communism.

Aetheist thinking is also Nazi thinking. Stemming from the idea that God doesnt exist led to evolutionist thinking. Evolutionism got people thinking, "Man evolved from apes. Apes have dark skin and dark hair all over their bodies. Therefore, the most evolved and advanced creatures are white-skinned blonde-haired blue-eyed humans, namely the Aryan race. We must do something to speed up the evolution process by wiping out inferior breeds of human."

You think Im a religious nut? You think Im uneducated? You think I was brainwashed into my belief? The fact is, Im very much a science student as einstein was. It came to a point in my life where I lost belief in God due to numerous scientific claims which create conflict with what the bible says. Anyway, down the line, Jesus Christ led me on the correct path which made me a better person. I made a choice to follow the Lord, not by forceful means. It would be so easy to whip out a hate speech the same way Bardock just replied but it goes against everything I believe in. Like the bible says, the road to hell is very wide but the path to heaven is very narrow.

I'll say it again: Right or Wrong. Make your choice. I cannot bring you to your senses, but I can only hope that you all become wary of God's existence.

Yes, if at all then humanity. Because we actually exist. I mean, it did with your book too. Just that people pretended they God it from an invisible man. Well, there is no evidence that the supreme fascist exists. Deal with it.

Haha, Atheism is not like Communism. You don't know shit, it is hilarious. And I live in a secualr country. So do you, all the advantages you have now came because Jefferson and other smart people, were secular, liberals with modern un-christian ideas.

Logic is not your strong point at all, is it? How old are you. Do you study? Evolution is right..there is hardly any doubt about that. I also recall that Chrisitans were the ones being racist for the longest times in the US.

Yes, you are a religious nut. And if you are not uneducated you are at least dumb and unknowledgable. See, you start off trying to sound like a rational intelligent human being, but then you go on to talk about fiction like it is truth. You know where you belong? A ****ing mental asylum. I did not reply in a hate speech, I pointed out your mistakes. You choose to ignore it as you can not deal with the truth. Where is the absolute moral code? Why is it absolute? Why don't you jsut do the world a favour and kill yourself?

I did. I choose right. You choose a fictional book with an invisible man forcing you to lead your life how he wants. Hilarious.

So all in all, believe in your God if you want. He might exist for all I know. But don't force others to live by your idiotic moral code (even if it is right), your ****ing God would have given us free will to choose. So let us choose. Man, we all know God would be pro-choice. It is jsut you fascits, authoritarian, egoistical, idiotic Christians who think they have a say in the private lives of others. I don't understand it. You take the bible where you agree with it and cut out other parts. Man you guys suck.

Anyways, reply to my posts. Your God wants you to.

Originally posted by Up In Flames
So who does? You? Me? Humanity? There you guys go, claiming yourselves as gods of your own worlds.

Originally posted by Up In Flames
Aetheist thinking = Communist thinking.

Originally posted by Up In Flames
You guys are lucky you dont live in pagan countries like the Soviet Union or Vietnam or China. Trust me, you do not want a piece of communism.

Originally posted by Up In Flames
Aetheist thinking is also Nazi thinking.

Originally posted by Up In Flames
Stemming from the idea that God doesnt exist led to evolutionist thinking.

Originally posted by Up In Flames
Evolutionism got people thinking, "Man evolved from apes. Apes have dark skin and dark hair all over their bodies. Therefore, the most evolved and advanced creatures are white-skinned blonde-haired blue-eyed humans, namely the Aryan race. We must do something to speed up the evolution process by wiping out inferior breeds of human."

Originally posted by Up In Flames
You think Im a religious nut? You think Im uneducated? You think I was brainwashed into my belief?

Originally posted by Up In Flames
The fact is, Im very much a science student as einstein was. It came to a point in my life where I lost belief in God due to numerous scientific claims which create conflict with what the bible says.

Originally posted by Up In Flames
Anyway, down the line, Jesus Christ led me on the correct path which made me a better person.

Originally posted by Up In Flames
I made a choice to follow the Lord, not by forceful means.

Originally posted by Up In Flames
It would be so easy to whip out a hate speech the same way Bardock just replied but it goes against everything I believe in.

Originally posted by Up In Flames
Like the bible says, the road to hell is very wide but the path to heaven is very narrow.

Originally posted by Up In Flames
I'll say it again: Right or Wrong. Make your choice.

Originally posted by Up In Flames
I cannot bring you to your senses, but I can only hope that you all become wary of God's existence.

Originally posted by Up In Flames
Check out this debate between a Creationist scientist and 3 Evolutionist scientists:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xMpk7WerFWw

Say whatever you want, but just watch it!

Every two seconds he lies. If you were smart you'd know that.

Wow, what a ****ing liar. He doesn'T know at all what he is talking about.

I like how he thinks half way and concludes that the bible must be true due to that. Is he one of your heroes, flamer? Well, that explains a lot.

My guess is that video was there to insult him. On Google Video there's a whole bunch of vids that are on his DVD's. I used to watch them a while back, it was loads funny.

Originally posted by lord xyz
My guess is that video was there to insult him. On Google Video there's a whole bunch of vids that are on his DVD's. I used to watch them a while back, it was loads funny.

Yeah, it is kinda funny. Man, College students are such idiots.

Also funny how he has all the advantages and still is able to amke a fool out of himself.

You guys want me to respond, here I am. You want me to take my claptrap to people who dont care? You're straight up admitting that none of you give a damn about this topic, or aboprtion for that matter. You attack Christians with such aggressive technique using ungodly attitude and self-worshipping conviction.

You all tell me what you think about me. Now let me tell you what I think about you. You live your life in total defiance and ignorance. You reject the fact that there is a more superior being who gives us the wisdom to choose right from wrong. You probably come from a society where kids can backtalk to their parents, or any other authoritative figure for that matter. You reject truth. You reject spirituality. You rebel for the plain sake of being rebellious. You fear. You hate. Did I say hate? Well, judging by the severity of anger displayed in your replies, that is the only emotion I see. You dont debate against Christians with rationalism and understanding - you confront us with pure hatred. You are blinded by your own disbelief, distrust, disrespect and rebellion to see the truth. Did I say truth? Yes, I did. The only thing you and I have in common is that what we know is what we believe in. I believe that God is the force behind every right choice we make, while you believe in a paradox that right can be wrong or that wrong can be right or that neutrality is the best part of the fence to be on.
What you believe has no moral anchor and breeds nothing but harshness toward your fellow man.
What you believe has no rational point of view, but lies based on ill science.
What you believe is not absolute.
What you believe breeds hate.
What you believe is the direct opposite of what I believe, which revolves around truth, justice, freedom, obedience, righteousnous and spirituality.
What you believe in possesses no attribute of my beliefs.

I came here to share my views on abortion - you came to do some Christian-bashing.
I came with the truth - you came with hatred and lies.
I came to speak on behalf of my creator - you came to speak on behalf of your irrational thinking.
I talk straight to the point while you aimlessly beat around the bush, spewing cheap shots at me.

In spite of all this, I still stand by the fact that you are not the enemy, but you tend to speak under his destructive influence.

If you want to say that abortion is right, fine by me. Just dont make the mistake of mocking God or Christianity for that matter.

"Creation is true, evolution is wrong and one of the most dangerous religions in the world, that's our unbiased opinion."

I hope that was a joke. Some people in the croud seemed to like it but I don't.

"I believe strongly that the Earth was created in six days."

Great.

"Based on this assumption that the Earth was created in six days, we can make a few scientific predictions."

I ****ing doubt that.

"1. I predict that the universe will show evidence of order and intelligent design."

Yes, the speed of the Earth's creation makes the universe better "designed". Makes sense.

"2. I predict that there will be thousands of symbiotic relationships with nature IE animals depending on plants, and plants depending on Animals ecause they were all created at the same time."

That is so wrong.

"3. I predict that there will be limits to the variations life forms are able to produce."

Also wrong.

"4. I predict that there is a purpose to life. We were designed by a creator, that's a prediction based on the Bible point of view."

Not a prediction, a false assumption.

"5. I predict that there will be non-material things like love, a sense of justice, mercy, innate knowledge of right and wrong, conscience and absolute truth. They are predicted by the creation theory not the evolution theory. Somebody designed this for a reason."

I'd just like to say that they are all the same thing, and all don't exist. And yes, someone did design the creation theory for a reason, they're to arrogant to admit they're wrong.

"6. I predict teat there will be a way to find the will of the creator such as messengers speaking for Him and maybe even a book telling how He created and why."

Apparently the science of the Earth being created in 6 days has proven God's gender. Also, this book he speaks of, is it, the Torah, the Qu'ran, the Guru Granth Sahib or the Bible?

"7. I predict that there will be an after-life where we face the Creator ro give an acounting."

Now if he was explaining this to me I would'be asked him what an after life was.

"The Bible says the Earth is 6000 years old, not millions. Based on this we can make a few scientific predictions."

Again, I ****ing doubt that.

"1. I predict that there will be legends of a "Golden Age" where people lived a long time. Most people believe this."

I'd like to know how he came to this prediction.

"2. I predict that there will be skeletons found of people showing signs of great age such as larger brow ridge and bigger jaws. Because your brow ridge never stops growing."

Neither do your ears and nose, is he going to say Adam and Eve had ears down to their ankles?

"I predict they will be like the Neanderthals, bigger brains but 10% human nonetheless."

Neanderthals aren't human, they just evolved from what we evolved from. Like they're are cousins if you will.

"3. I predict that there will be biological problems like wisdom teeth indicating we don't grow as large or live as long as man once did."

Yes, your teeth are evidence of a "Golden age".

"People are maturing faster, they're livig to be 80 or 90 and not 900 like they once did."

I hope he realises that 1000 years ago people didn't live past 50. We are evolving, not devolving.

"4. I predict that there will be a universal longing for things to restored to the Garden of Eden."

Based on....

My post seems a bit long and I apoligise so I'm just gonna rap this up.

All of his predictions are fictitious Bible stories and NOT scientific predictions, he's makingf it up because of his twisted beliefs, and somehow thinks it's correct English to start a sentance with "I predict that there will be". "That there" is not correct and should never be spoken or wrote. When quoting I kept missing out the "that" because of it's inmproper use, but thought it would be funny to keep it in.

"I predict there will be" makes more sense, but then again, if he's going to say that, which is FUTURE tense, he shouldn't talk about things in the present and past.

Originally posted by Bardock42
Yeah, it is kinda funny. Man, College students are such idiots.

Also funny how he has all the advantages and still is able to amke a fool out of himself.

Originally posted by Up In Flames
You guys want me to respond, here I am. You want me to take my claptrap to people who dont care? You're straight up admitting that none of you give a damn about this topic, or aboprtion for that matter. You attack Christians with such aggressive technique using ungodly attitude and self-worshipping conviction.

You all tell me what you think about me. Now let me tell you what I think about you. You live your life in total defiance and ignorance. You reject the fact that there is a more superior being who gives us the wisdom to choose right from wrong. You probably come from a society where kids can backtalk to their parents, or any other authoritative figure for that matter. You reject truth. You reject spirituality. You rebel for the plain sake of being rebellious. You fear. You hate. Did I say hate? Well, judging by the severity of anger displayed in your replies, that is the only emotion I see. You dont debate against Christians with rationalism and understanding - you confront us with pure hatred. You are blinded by your own disbelief, distrust, disrespect and rebellion to see the truth. Did I say truth? Yes, I did. The only thing you and I have in common is that what we know is what we believe in. I believe that God is the force behind every right choice we make, while you believe in a paradox that right can be wrong or that wrong can be right or that neutrality is the best part of the fence to be on.
What you believe has no moral anchor and breeds nothing but harshness toward your fellow man.
What you believe has no rational point of view, but lies based on ill science.
What you believe is not absolute.
What you believe breeds hate.
What you believe is the direct opposite of what I believe, which revolves around truth, justice, freedom, obedience, righteousnous and spirituality.
What you believe in possesses no attribute of my beliefs.

I came here to share my views on abortion - you came to do some Christian-bashing.
I came with the truth - you came with hatred and lies.
I came to speak on behalf of my creator - you came to speak on behalf of your irrational thinking.
I talk straight to the point while you aimlessly beat around the bush, spewing cheap shots at me.

In spite of all this, I still stand by the fact that you are not the enemy, but you tend to speak under his destructive influence.

If you want to say that abortion is right, fine by me. Just dont make the mistake of mocking God or Christianity for that matter.

Mocking Christianity is a very just and smart thing. Since Christianity is without a doubt the enemy. A religion based on lies and hate.

I could go point by point and point out your mistakes once more, but you don't reply to my posts. So it won't make sense. Just so much. You are wrong and you are most certainly brainwashed. look at the facts and see that evolution is true.

As for abortion. Where is the absolute moral code that we all have to stick by that says it is wrong? Why is it absolute?

Originally posted by Up In Flames
You guys want me to respond, here I am. You want me to take my claptrap to people who dont care? You're straight up admitting that none of you give a damn about this topic, or aboprtion for that matter. You attack Christians with such aggressive technique using ungodly attitude and self-worshipping conviction.

You all tell me what you think about me. Now let me tell you what I think about you. You live your life in total defiance and ignorance. You reject the fact that there is a more superior being who gives us the wisdom to choose right from wrong. You probably come from a society where kids can backtalk to their parents, or any other authoritative figure for that matter. You reject truth. You reject spirituality. You rebel for the plain sake of being rebellious. You fear. You hate. Did I say hate? Well, judging by the severity of anger displayed in your replies, that is the only emotion I see. You dont debate against Christians with rationalism and understanding - you confront us with pure hatred. You are blinded by your own disbelief, distrust, disrespect and rebellion to see the truth. Did I say truth? Yes, I did. The only thing you and I have in common is that what we know is what we believe in. I believe that God is the force behind every right choice we make, while you believe in a paradox that right can be wrong or that wrong can be right or that neutrality is the best part of the fence to be on.
What you believe has no moral anchor and breeds nothing but harshness toward your fellow man.
What you believe has no rational point of view, but lies based on ill science.
What you believe is not absolute.
What you believe breeds hate.
What you believe is the direct opposite of what I believe, which revolves around truth, justice, freedom, obedience, righteousnous and spirituality.
What you believe in possesses no attribute of my beliefs.

I came here to share my views on abortion - you came to do some Christian-bashing.
I came with the truth - you came with hatred and lies.
I came to speak on behalf of my creator - you came to speak on behalf of your irrational thinking.
I talk straight to the point while you aimlessly beat around the bush, spewing cheap shots at me.

In spite of all this, I still stand by the fact that you are not the enemy, but you tend to speak under his destructive influence.

If you want to say that abortion is right, fine by me. Just dont make the mistake of mocking God or Christianity for that matter.

Originally posted by Up In Flames
I say my fictional god says I'm right, therefore I am.

Like I said, peddle your nonsense to someone who gives a tiny rat's ass.

FYI Kent Hovind is a moron.

Originally posted by xmarksthespot
Blah blah god hates gays, abortions, stem cell research and evolution. All those who condone such thought or action will burn in hell. Blah blah.

Like I said, peddle your nonsense to someone who gives a tiny rat's ass.

FYI Kent Hovind is a moron.

Originally posted by Bardock42
Mocking Christianity is a very just and smart thing. Since Christianity is without a doubt the enemy. A religion based on lies and hate.

I could go point by point and point out your mistakes once more, but you don't reply to my posts. So it won't make sense. Just so much. You are wrong and you are most certainly brainwashed. look at the facts and see that evolution is true.

As for abortion. Where is the absolute moral code that we all have to stick by that says it is wrong? Why is it absolute?

You believe Christianity is a religion based on lies and hate, tell that to Jesus. Not a single harsh word did he use in his teachings. They were purely firm and moral and straight to the truth. And as for the reason why I dont reply directly to you, there are three of you and one of me.

Originally posted by xmarksthespot
Blah blah god hates gays, abortions, stem cell research and evolution. All those who condone such thought or action will burn in hell. Blah blah.

Like I said, peddle your nonsense to someone who gives a tiny rat's ass.

FYI Kent Hovind is a moron.

Again, you twist the truth and fail to come up with an intelligent explanation.

Originally posted by lord xyz
So what you're saying is, we are wrong because you are right? You sound like JIA.

I'm saying that we cant both be right since our opinions on this matter are direct opposites to each other. I know Im right because its morally correct and God-inspired.

Originally posted by Up In Flames
Again, you twist the truth and fail to come up with an intelligent explanation.

Originally posted by Up In Flames
I'm saying that we cant both be right since our opinions on this matter are direct opposites to each other. I know Im right because its morally correct and God-inspired.

Originally posted by Up In Flames
You believe Christianity is a religion based on lies and hate, tell that to Jesus. Not a single harsh word did he use in his teachings. They were purely firm and moral and straight to the truth. And as for the reason why I dont reply directly to you, there are three of you and one of me.

Then just accept those teachings. Not the Old Testament. And I remember Jesus getting angry. But that might jsut cause I know the bible.

Originally posted by lord xyz
He's not teisting the fact, what he said was true.
Prove it.

Prove what? That you're wrong? You've proved yourself wrong since your opinions on this subject hold no moral value.