Abortion

Originally posted by Bardock42
Then just accept those teachings. Not the Old Testament. And I remember Jesus getting angry. But that might jsut cause I know the bible.

Yeah, you know everything, dont you...

Originally posted by Up In Flames
Prove what? That you're wrong? You've proved yourself wrong since your opinions on this subject hold no moral value.

Yes tehy do. Freedom is a moral value to many people. Our stance is just as moral as yours.

Originally posted by xmarksthespot
Blah blah god hates gays, abortions, stem cell research and evolution. All those who condone such thought or action will burn in hell. Blah blah.

Like I said, peddle your nonsense to someone who gives a tiny rat's ass.

FYI Kent Hovind is a moron.

God hates sin, plain and simple. I dont find anything unreasonable about that.

Speaking of morons, if an intelligent creationist doctor falls under this category, I wonder what that makes of people like you who have nothing but ridiculous remarks and vulgarism to share.

Originally posted by Up In Flames
God hates sin, plain and simple. I dont find anything unreasonable about that.

Speaking of morons, if an intelligent creationist doctor falls under this category, I wonder what that makes of people like you who have nothing but ridiculous remarks and vulgarism to share.

Originally posted by Bardock42
Yes tehy do. Freedom is a moral value to many people. Our stance is just as moral as yours.

Oh sure... its also morally adequate to spray profanity all over the place too...

Originally posted by ThePittman
What makes it a sin, the Bible so if you don't believe the Bible then it's not a sin. 😉

Exactly. Stealing is not a sin if you're thinking out of the bible. So is murder or any other crime for that matter.

You've proved my point. Even great men like Martin Luthor believe that morality only comes from the scriptures.

Kent Hovind has no higher education from any accredited institution. To refer to him as a doctor of anything is fallacy. To refer to him as a liar and criminal is much more accurate.

Originally posted by Up In Flames
Oh sure... its also morally adequate to spray profanity all over the place too...

Yes.

Originally posted by Up In Flames
Exactly. Stealing is not a sin if you're thinking out of the bible. So is murder or any other crime for that matter.

You've proved my point. Even great men like Martin Luthor believe that morality only comes from the scriptures.

Originally posted by Up In Flames
Prove what? That you're wrong? You've proved yourself wrong since your opinions on this subject hold no moral value.

Damn, I hate having to talk like that.

Originally posted by ThePittman
So you are saying that without the bible you would have no morals, you would be killing, sealing, cheating on your wife and so forth. Do you lack that much self-control? People long before the Bible were not doing these things because they knew it was wrong, why because they had empathy.

People long before the bible? Havent you heard of prophets? Those who were given the priveledge of spreading God's word. They were the ones who guided the immoral.

If the bible did not exist, there would be nothing but utter chaos. The laws you obey stem from the ten commandments. You may think you are being a good person (or so you say) but I can never tell if you are telling the truth. I tell the truth when I say that I've sinned. Your self-righteous thinking sets you off-course when it comes to matters of truth. You willfully tell lies because you are a pure disbeliever.

Originally posted by lord xyz
prove that they don't. Prove what you're saying is "morally correct and God-inspired".

Easy. May I quote from the ten commandments: "Thou shalt not commit murder"

Does that plain and truthful fact prove my point?

Originally posted by Up In Flames
Your self-righteous thinking

Originally posted by Bardock42
Yes.

How do you expect to speak morally when your aura reaks of pure immorality?

Originally posted by Up In Flames

If the bible did not exist, there would be nothing but utter chaos. The laws you obey stem from the ten commandments.

You think people only obey laws because they are there?

Are you arguing that people are inherently 'bad'?

I'd call that a major design flaw.

So maybe The Bible was the first update. Like People 1.1.

Originally posted by Up In Flames
People long before the bible? Havent you heard of prophets? Those who were given the priveledge of spreading God's word. They were the ones who guided the immoral.

If the bible did not exist, there would be nothing but utter chaos. The laws you obey stem from the ten commandments. You may think you are being a good person (or so you say) but I can never tell if you are telling the truth. I tell the truth when I say that I've sinned. Your self-righteous thinking sets you off-course when it comes to matters of truth. You willfully tell lies because you are a pure disbeliever.

I have not told you any lies but the truth as I see it and what I have studies and learn through out my years. If any one is being self righteous is you, you are the one that is saying I’m evil, lie and have no morals and that my views are wrong and that I deserver to burn and be tortured in hell for all eternity for what I believe.

Originally posted by xmarksthespot
QFhypocrisy.

What? Being right by God, and not by myself is hypocritical? Hypocrisy is based on lies and selfishness, if you didnt already know. My words are selfless and devoid of lies. You're the one who's actually the hypocrite, saying upsurd things and throwing cheap shots.

Originally posted by Victor Von Doom
You think people only obey laws because they are there?

Are you arguing that people are inherently 'bad'?

I'd call that a major design flaw.

So maybe The Bible was the first update. Like People 1.1.

Originally posted by Up In Flames
How do you expect to speak morally when your aura reaks of pure immorality?

Anyways, I am not more immoral than you. Get over it.

Originally posted by Victor Von Doom
You think people only obey laws because they are there?

Are you arguing that people are inherently 'bad'?

I'd call that a major design flaw.

So maybe The Bible was the first update. Like People 1.1.

'siseneG' by Arthur C. Clarke

And God said: 'Lines Aleph Zero to Aleph One - Delete.'
And the Universe ceased to exist
Then She pondered for several aeons, and sighed.
'Cancel Programme GENESIS,' She ordered.
It never had existed.

Originally posted by ThePittman
People had laws, morals and new right and wrong long LONG before the bible, prophets and any other messenger of God. So you are saying that if the bible hadn’t been written that they would be chaos, what about the billion or so people that don’t believe in the bible or God, are they without morals and causing chaos and anarchy? What makes you so right and others so wrong? Why do you believe in the Bible? Can you not control your self and know what is right and wrong without having it written in a book?

I have not told you any lies but the truth as I see it and what I have studies and learn through out my years. If any one is being self righteous is you, you are the one that is saying I’m evil, lie and have no morals and that my views are wrong and that I deserver to burn and be tortured in hell for all eternity for what I believe.

I'm being self-righteous? If you read more carefully, my statements are based on the bible. I also didnt say you're going to hell to burn. Thats God's decision to make. You want to live a life without God, fine by me, but dont go around making false accusations that there is no right and wrong.