Originally posted by The Black Ghost
We've been over the whole pro-life/pro-choice thing many times already.We've gotten it down to: pro-life/anti-choice, and pro-choice/pro-abortion.
One who is "Pro-Life" does not approve of abortion, and does not support the right of a woman to choose to have one. In this sense, one who is "Pro-Life" is also Anti-Choice.
One who is Pro-Choice may or may not approve of abortion, but supports the right of a woman to choose to have one. Therefore, one who is Pro-Choice is not necessarily Pro-Abortion.
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Originally posted by Strangelove
I've come to a conclusion:Pro-Life is the wrong term for people who claim to be such. Hell, I'm pro-life. I don't like abortion either. But I would never take that choice away from somebody. The Supreme Court decided in 1973 (Roe v. Wade) that a fetus is not a person and has no constitutional rights. And when it comes down to it, that's the only thing that matters when it comes down to it: Religion or religious beliefs have no legal sway in this country. The law is the law. And the Supreme Court is the final interpreter of the law.
My point is: I am pro-choice. I am also pro-life. So the new term that I choose to bestow on those who claim to be "pro-life" is this: Anti-choice. Too long has this myth of "pro-life" and "pro-choice" being separate been perpetuated. I know of no one who is anti-life, but what are the "religious right" trying to imply with their use of the term "pro-life"? It's a fallacy.
All people who are against women's right to choose are now designated "anti-choice"
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How original of you.
Originally posted by Adam_PoE
One who is "Pro-Life" does not approve of abortion, and does not support the right of a woman to choose to have one. In this sense, one who is "Pro-Life" is also Anti-Choice.One who is Pro-Choice may or may not approve of abortion, but supports the right of a woman to choose to have one. Therefore, one who is Pro-Choice is not necessarily Pro-Abortion.
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First part -what I said, second part -no. Pro-choice means you support the right of abortions, therefore PRO-abortion. I cant beleive this is still going on.
Originally posted by The Black Ghost
First part -what I said, second part -no. Pro-choice means you support the right of abortions, therefore PRO-abortion. I cant beleive this is still going on.
One who is Pro-Choice may or may not approve of abortion, but supports the right of a woman to choose to have one.
One who is Pro-Abortion not only approves of abortion, but advocates that a woman have one.
All Pro-Abortionists are Pro-Choice, but not all Pro-Choicers are Pro-Abortionists, you ****ing idiot.
Originally posted by The Black Ghost
the right of abortions, therefore PRO-abortion. I cant beleive this is still going on.
its still going on because some people cant grasp basic deductive reasoning.
parroting your own logical failure doesnt make it become true.
the proper conclusion for someone who supports a right to do something is pro-(right to do something.)
i support the first ammendment and feel that even though i hate people burning flags, the right to free speech should not be stripped. so by your logic this makes me pro-flag burning.
any lightbulbs switching on yet?
Originally posted by Schecter
i support the first ammendment and feel that even though i hate people burning flags, the right to free speech should not be stripped. so by your logic this makes me pro-flag burning.
LOL... I once had a very similar debate with a couple of Evangelicals.
Allowing flag burning = you hate America. <--- Their logic.
Observation: The question "do you believe in abortion?" is invalid. Abortion is not an abstract concept such as God that may or may not exsist. It is a very real thing, please rephrase your question.
Observation: Abortion is the system that grants the right to see a doctor to exterminate a human embreyo inside the woman wether for financial, emotional, or without real reason.
Statement: Abortion is a self-contradictory right. To define abortion as a right but homocide as a crime is counter-logical. Surely there are just as valid reasons to kill a man as an embreyo. So moreso then prolifers are "selectively pro-life" prochoicers are exceedingly selective in choice.
Statement: If murder is to be illegal on American soil then the United States needs to stop treating a woman's body as overseas territory..
Reaction: I would love to see a foolish meatbag see two slices of pizza, and picking up the wrong slice and eating it, has to serve 25 years in prison. This is how my hard-drive computes the relation between abortion, murder, and the community as a whole.
Originally posted by HK47
Statement: Abortion is a self-contradictory right. To define abortion as a right but homocide as a crime is counter-logical. Surely there are just as valid reasons to kill a man as an embreyo. So moreso then prolifers are "selectively pro-life" prochoicers are exceedingly selective in choice.Statement: If murder is to be illegal on American soil then the United States needs to stop treating a woman's body as overseas territory..
appraisal: fail
Originally posted by RobtardMost people who burn flags aren't even in America, so the so-called Flag Burning Amendment is just a dogmatic patriotism-masturbatory sentiment
LOL... I once had a very similar debate with a couple of Evangelicals.Allowing flag burning = you hate America. <--- Their logic.