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Originally posted by inimalist
So, in Pakistan then, is it believed that he did or did not give nuclear secrets to the Libyans?

I honestly don't know what I think, given I've only read western sources, but from them you hear of a meeting between him and Bin Laden's crew where he walked away calling them all "insane".

I see the power balance with India as a good thing, at least in a global security context, but I get what you are saying about no winners in nuclear war.

Do you think Pakistan would be safer now if it didn't have nukes? Do you think America would be more aggressive on Pakistani territory if they didn't?

lol, sorry to go so totally off topic, but seriously, too interesting man

generally, that he did not and that the government was just under pressure by the americans to get rid of any ISLAMIC BOMB figures and to declare itself clearly in alliance with america in the so called war on terror, enough to even imprison sum1 as essential and iconic as abdul qadeer.

it cud have happened prior to 9-11, things were good between pakistan and the taliban then, but not AFTER 9-11. thats probably just the whole "taliban muslims have the nuke" white noise.

yup, sad thing, i think india is actually capable of pushing the button, and many factions in the pakistan military, capable of reponding.

i dont think so. i may hate it, but its the only real reason pakistan isnt being treated like iran or afghanistan right now, even with most of the government bought out by america currently.

lol. if you desire, i cud tell you stories about internal/internation conspiracies through the ISI and military {in which reletives/friends of mine are high ranking officials} and how they kidnapp/blackmail/clean up colossal messes inside pakistan/afghanistan/iraq and cater to the american military like bitter lapdogs and orchestrate communal/shi sunni attacks/suicide bombings inside the country to give the allied forces a justification for destroying towns/usurping governments or how exactly, you throw an election in pakistan or how musharraf got his instructions from a cutoff or how a mate's father personally went up to musharraff and threatened to shove a cigar up his ass if he didnt allow his illegal smuggling route to continue unabated. or how, lmao, at a coctail party, musharraf got shit faced and grabbed my friend's mother's ass 😆 and got slapped as a result. lol. do you desire??? 😂 . the world of pakistan's elite is FULL of idiotic scandal, murder/mystery/conspiracy aplenty.

ya dude, hook that stuff to my veins

Wiki says Khan wasn't imprisoned, he confessed and was then pardoned, just saying.

Originally posted by inimalist
ya dude, hook that stuff to my veins

lol. honestly, once you get over "zomg rich influential people" they are mostly just shitty thieves and mass murderes/gangsters. id rather be with nicer people.

Originally posted by Robtard
Wiki says Khan wasn't imprisoned, he confessed and was then pardoned, just saying.

he was under house arrest. he never confessed initially and the government gave a statement later.

Originally posted by leonheartmm
he was under house arrest. he never confessed initially and the government gave a statement later.

Just saying what Wiki said, dude.

BTW, do you still have that contact with Osama Bin Laden?

Originally posted by leonheartmm
lol. honestly, once you get over "zomg rich influential people" they are mostly just shitty thieves and mass murderes/gangsters. id rather be with nicer people.

people in power are like that everywhere

I sort of wish it wasn't as insidious as it is here. From what I've heard of Pakistan, at least people know their leaders are corrupt. Here, its all "how could you possibly not trust the government, we elected them so they are only concerned with us".

Originally posted by leonheartmm
but i wasnt wrong, and ive given references too.

That support me. Thanks.

Originally posted by leonheartmm
and ive also proven that i have undergrad physics qualfications

No you haven't.

Originally posted by leonheartmm
till the second year also, if i didnt mention it, i have undergad maths qualification till the second year/semester too. so you were wrong on BOTH account. factual, as well as ad hominem, i didnt LEARN this stuff from wiki.

Sure you did. And you didn't learn it from Wiki because you're still getting it wrong. 😐

Originally posted by leonheartmm
so forgive me if i take the words of some of the top scientists in the field over yours, as if basic physcis and wiki quotes werent enough to disprove your fallacious assertions.

Watch this.

I am a nuclear physicists, I knew Charles Oppenheimer, and I designed the hydronuclear test. I am also a quantum physicist baccalaureate!

Who's more qualified now? AHA! I WIN!

Oh, and, wait, a good friend works for the Federal Government and works with classified information on nuclear weapon's tests! OMG! I win teh threadz!

No matter what you say, you were wrong and I proved it. Just because you don't want to admit it, doesn't mean you aren't wrong. 😐

Originally posted by leonheartmm
lol, your a good guy, when your not being a butthole.

I am both at the same time. You gotta take the piss with the sugar.

Originally posted by Robtard
Just saying what Wiki said, dude.

BTW, do you still have that contact with Osama Bin Laden?

nope, the boy who did left for afghanistan soon after the war to grow poppies. and think twice before u think im kidding. 🙂

Originally posted by leonheartmm
nope, the boy who did left for afghanistan soon after the war to grow poppies. and think twice before u think im kidding. 🙂

Do you really think your claiming to have known a guy who had contacts with Osama now counts as proof, on top of your claim to have met Osama in the past? Really, like really really?

That support me. Thanks.

no they dont

No you haven't.

Sure you did. And you didn't learn it from Wiki because you're still getting it wrong. 😐

erm, am i lying then, and am i lying when i say my little sister is alrady accepted into cornell and the university of toronto in the second semester when i have the better grades and just didnt want to apply???? i mean, be clear, am i just making this up in ur oppinion?

Watch this.

I am a nuclear physicists, I knew Charles Oppenheimer, and I designed the hydronuclear test. I am also a quantum physicist baccalaureate!

Who's more qualified now? AHA! I WIN!

Oh, and, wait, a good friend works for the Federal Government and works with classified information on nuclear weapon's tests! OMG! I win teh threadz!

No matter what you say, you were wrong and I proved it. Just because you don't want to admit it, doesn't mean you aren't wrong. 😐

I am both at the same time. You gotta take the piss with the sugar.

its not the same since the validity of the statement i made is given credit by the man who made it. i did however, get to meet two nobel laureates last year

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Douglas_D._Osheroff

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Klaus_von_Klitzing

personally. and why is that..........surprise surprise, i was at the top of my physics class and my teacher, who also happens to be a distinguished phd herself, thought i shud meet them as i was interested and well versed enough in the stuff to follow the lecture and then have tea 😛 .

but ofcourse, i understand now that all ive learnt about physics is based in wikipedia and even my basic understanding of it which leads me to disagree with you is wrong since your the one whos OBVIOUSLY has the real world experience with physics.

Originally posted by Robtard
Do you really think your claiming to have known a guy who had contacts with Osama now counts as proof, on top of your claim to have met Osama in the past? Really, like really really?

HOW many times have i to tell you this. usama was NO BIG DEAL before 9-11!!!!!!!!!!!!!! havent u ever had a mugshot with a celeb?!?!?! thats all it was, and only in fair proximity. mullah UMAR was the one who was always out of bounds, usama used to go to diverse villages all the TIME to meet with extended family/associates and the people in general.

He was a big deal before 9/11, as he was connected with a previous terrorist attack.

^and???? individuals with no more than 50 people worht of allegiance are tied to terrorist attacks in india and sri lanka, are they big deals?????

and the connection and mugshots were significantly before the battleship and embassy attacks.

Originally posted by leonheartmm
HOW many times have i to tell you this. usama was NO BIG DEAL before 9-11!!!!!!!!!!!!!! havent u ever had a mugshot with a celeb?!?!?! thats all it was, and only in fair proximity. mullah UMAR was the one who was always out of bounds, usama used to go to diverse villages all the TIME to meet with extended family/associates and the people in general.

Hahaha, no, he's had a price on his head long before 9/11.I think you're so desperate to win any debate that you'll go to any length, no matter how embarrassing it is.

Case here, Dadudemon destroyed and continues to destroy every false point you made/make on the subject at hand, so as a last ditch effort, you claim to not only be heavily studied in the field but to have known a major contender in it.

Similar to several pages back when the subject of psychology came up, you implied great knowledge in the field and I am certain if I had pursued that clownery, you eventually would have claimed to be some sort of psychologist and have had some sort of connection with Wundt.

In short, you're a bullshitter and you're lousy at it. Fact.

so, claiming that you are qualified enough to get into university after finishing your a levels at age 20 is bullshitting????????/

REALLY?!?!?!?!?!

i did take psychology in my a level and i do know three of the leading phd psychologists in the country {one was my teacher 🙂 }, again, is this unnatural?

Thanks for proving my point.

Originally posted by inimalist
people in power are like that everywhere

I sort of wish it wasn't as insidious as it is here. From what I've heard of Pakistan, at least people know their leaders are corrupt. Here, its all "how could you possibly not trust the government, we elected them so they are only concerned with us".

and its when the PAKISTANI public starts overtaking you in common sense and intelligence that you shud be REALLY beginning to worry about the future 😆

Originally posted by leonheartmm
and its when the PAKISTANI public starts overtaking you in common sense and intelligence that you shud be REALLY beginning to worry about the future 😆

more oil than Saudi Arabia and most of the world's fresh water

I'm already worried about the future

The ability to debate on topic still as prominent as ever.

-AC