Originally posted by tkitnaThey were not fighting powerless but with powers. And Zod wasnt losing. Neither was doing any damage to the other. They were like indestructible balloons.
The trained leader of the kryptonian military losing to an untrained farm boy isnt a ringing endorsement.
Originally posted by h1a8
They were not fighting powerless but with powers. And Zod wasnt losing. Neither was doing any damage to the other. They were like indestructible balloons.
Superman only won by plot device, or strict chance. The two could have landed the opposite way where it was Zod who managed to get Superman's neck.
And yet Zod lost once again. Zod should be a much more skilled fighter and should have won easily, but he lost because thats what he does. He has never won a fight.
Originally posted by h1a8
Superman only won by plot device, or strict chance. The two could have landed the opposite way where it was Zod who managed to get Superman's neck.
The plot device was Kal stopped holding back and went for the kill.
Also no massive superspeed displayed at that point by Kal. Faora was the fastest and even she was clearly visible when moving.
Originally posted by h1a8
They were not fighting powerless but with powers. And Zod wasnt losing. Neither was doing any damage to the other. They were like indestructible balloons.
Superman only won by plot device, or strict chance. The two could have landed the opposite way where it was Zod who managed to get Superman's neck.
This was always something that weirded me out with the DCEU movies when it came to their superpowered heroes. Their durability seemed to massively trump their strength, which means they could punch each other numerous times in the face, smash each other around for extended periods, yet don't suffer so much as a bloody lip.
I mean, other superhero movies do it too but not quite to the extent that DC does it.
Originally posted by Darth Thor
Getting overwhelmed isnt pure chance.Quit talking s*** h1.
Zod also displayed no vast level speed perception.
Zod was never overwhelmed nor was losing the fight EVER. Yo8 are using words out of context.
He lost due to pure chance on how both fell through the window on the back and forth changing of the advantage.
Of course Zod did. He blocked,caught,etc Superman's attacks. He zipped around buildings at super speed.
Originally posted by h1a8
Zod was never overwhelmed nor was losing the fight EVER. Yo8 are using words out of context.
He lost due to pure chance on how both fell through the window on the back and forth changing of the advantage.Of course Zod did. He blocked,caught,etc Superman's attacks. He zipped around buildings at super speed.
No he lost when Kal decided to go for the kill. The movie made it very clear Kal wasn't going for the kill before that point whilst Zod clearly was the whole time.
Show me the clip showcasing either Zod or Kal's superspeed in MOS.
Originally posted by Darth ThorJust youtube Superman vs Zod fight.
No he lost when Kal decided to go for the kill. The movie made it very clear Kal wasn't going for the kill before that point whilst Zod clearly was the whole time.Show me the clip showcasing either Zod or Kal's superspeed in MOS.
Originally posted by h1a8
Just youtube Superman vs Zod fight.
I don't see how you don't understand that if Superman wouldn't grabbed Zods neck then he would have never won. That was pure chance. Zod could have easily grabbed Superman's neck in a 50 50 split.
According to this absurd logic, every MMA fight is a 50/50 split.
Superman won. He killed Zod when he stopped holding back. Zod was clearly not holding back. Deal with it.
I also want speed feats of both Kal and Zos in MOS. Specifically speed perception feats.
Originally posted by Darth ThorHela didn't react to anything that takes less time than to react to those movements.
So nothing Hela cant react to. Got it 👆
Remember, reactions is based off TIME, not speed.
Speed gives the time based off distance. Has Hela reacted to in less than 0.2 seconds after it occurred (the limit of a human)?
Originally posted by h1a8
Hela didn't react to anything that takes less time than to react to those movements.Remember, reactions is based off TIME, not speed.
Speed gives the time based off distance. Has Hela reacted to in less than 0.2 seconds after it occurred (the limit of a human)?
She fought off an Asgardian army. Her skill trumps both Kal and Zod. Her reaction time is sufficient to deal with their bull rush tactics.
Originally posted by h1a8
Zod was never overwhelmed nor was losing the fight EVER. Yo8 are using words out of context.
He lost due to pure chance on how both fell through the window on the back and forth changing of the advantage.Of course Zod did. He blocked,caught,etc Superman's attacks. He zipped around buildings at super speed.
It would have been more impressive if both Superman and Zod were able to avoid hitting all those buildings while flying around... but we know that's not the case. MOS is notorious for the amount of destruction Superman and Zod caused while they were fighting.
Majority of their flying was done in straight lines. That isn't exactly a great showcase of superspeed, much in the same way that me and you fighting on a plane traveling at high speeds isn't a showcase of superspeed.
Here is my thing about the DC bad guys. Neither zod nor doomsday were able to kill anyone. In fact, they didn't even injure a single person on screen. They didn't even injure anyone. Not. One. Single. Person.
Hela solod an entire army of bullet proof, multi-tonner, Spider-man lite soldiers , with advanced metallurgy who also had advanced alien technology air support.
Steppwnwolf beat up some chicks with bow and arrows and horses and then ran away.